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1) iPod Shuffle - 1 & 2GB models, $59 & $99
2) iPod Nano - 4 & 8GB models, $149 & $199
3) iPod, a.k.a. "FatPod" - 8 & 16GB (NAND flash) models, $249 & $349
4) iPod "Touch" - 60 & 120GB models, $399 & $499

If I'm right, you all owe me $20... each.

-Clive

What? Why would Apple offer iPods with the same amount of storage space? Also no way a full touch screen iPod will have an HD, or 120GB of flash memory, HD would eat up battery, and 120GB of flash(or 60) would cost FAR to much.

If you switch around the GBs for the iPod touch and iPod, then I think your on to something.
 
i will go straight to the apple store if the iPod comes with wifi (safari).
i am really hoping it has this. this is a must. but im seriously doubting it.
come on apple you can put it in there! :D
 
If you think about it from a consumer point of view, NOBODY needs more iPod space. In fact, the iPod Nano is just about to tip the barrel of storage space the average person would ever need. So…

- The new iPod Nano looks like a squished iPod (like in the pictures) and 'Nano' is dropped from the name. Size goes up to 16GB, and maybe 32GB.

- BUT Apple keep a high-end version which becomes known as a dedicated Video iPod. It has a widescreen but NO TOUCH SCREEN. It will have a thin click 'strip' at the edge, which scrolls and selects. Face it, there is no need for multi-touch on an iPod.

WiFi seems probable, but no browser functions and no additional computer functionality - Apple will keep that for the iPhone's target market.
 
If you think about it from a consumer point of view, NOBODY needs more iPod space. In fact, the iPod Nano is just about to tip the barrel of storage space the average person would ever need. So…

- The new iPod Nano looks like a squished iPod (like in the pictures) and 'Nano' is dropped from the name. Size goes up to 16GB, and maybe 32GB.

- BUT Apple keep a high-end version which becomes known as a dedicated Video iPod. It has a widescreen but NO TOUCH SCREEN. It will have a thin click 'strip' at the edge, which scrolls and selects. Face it, there is no need for multi-touch on an iPod.

WiFi seems probable, but no browser functions and no additional computer functionality - Apple will keep that for the iPhone's target market.

im sorry but im gonna have to DISAGREE with you on this one...the average amount of storage a person uses is 4 or 8 gb?? your wrong on this one. also the new(touch) iPod will not have a strip at the edge like a blackberry...and it WILL be touchscreen...it just has to be. and there is a need for multi touch on the upcoming iPod because it(might) have OS X which means new apps....and for the wifi i dont know...but im hoping for safari. and for the iPhone target market...this upcoming iPod will NOT "canibilize" iPhone sales....the cell phone market and music player market are two very different things. it agrivates me so much that people think a mulit touch iPod is gonna hurt the iPhone sales...not gonna happen people!! this is just my 2 cents. anyone agree or disagree?
 
If you think about it from a consumer point of view, NOBODY needs more iPod space. In fact, the iPod Nano is just about to tip the barrel of storage space the average person would ever need. So…

- The new iPod Nano looks like a squished iPod (like in the pictures) and 'Nano' is dropped from the name. Size goes up to 16GB, and maybe 32GB.

- BUT Apple keep a high-end version which becomes known as a dedicated Video iPod. It has a widescreen but NO TOUCH SCREEN. It will have a thin click 'strip' at the edge, which scrolls and selects. Face it, there is no need for multi-touch on an iPod.

WiFi seems probable, but no browser functions and no additional computer functionality - Apple will keep that for the iPhone's target market.


Ya, my "Favorite Music" i.e. the music I listen to on repeat, is over 4gb. So I agree with others that you need more. People are hoping for 160gb, and you are saying everyone would be happy with 4? ok...

Also, there has to be a large capacity option. They arent dumb...
 
Face it, there is no need for multi-touch on an iPod.

There is!
The touch screen was meant for the iPod for the whole start but was debuted in the iPhone so that Apple's debut in the cell phone industry would be something out of the ordinary.

Apple filed a patent for a touch screen iPod interface last year and looking at the illustrations it's better than the iPhone's "iPod interface".

What the touch screen does is making the device smaller. instead of having a screen + click wheel(or something similar) you simply have a screen. There are endless of possibilities that a touch screen iPod will bring to the table when it comes to navigation. Instead of navigating using a joystick or click wheel you just point at what you want.

There will be a touch screen iPod this year and you are one of the very few who doesn't seem to get it.

Although 4&8GB is very much what the masses need and can consume thing change when video comes into the picture. Video playback is gonna be big in the coming months and videos to swallow a whole lot of space. The same goes for youtube videos which we'll be watching on iPods in the near future.
 
A question to the US crowd. Are new iPods sold in the apple stores the same day they are launched?

As far as I know this is the case. I hope so, I am going to drive out there and play with one! No money to buy one now :(
 
What I hope for:

1. More iTunes+ Content. A lot more. I'd love to upgrade my library.

2. Higher quality videos. Free upgrades on existing videos.

3. New full screen video ipod with 160 gig drive and 15 hours battery life

4. HBO, HBO, HBO

And of course, the typical unforeseen Apple magic.

Yeah, all I want is the unforeseen magic... And the touch screen video iPod.
 
anyone agree or disagree?

I agree, why would someone buy the iPhone for the purpose of WiFi? They buy it for the phone! How hard is it to realize this? WiFi is just an extra, imo. It may be a good selling point, but someone who buys a $600 phone based on the fact it has WiFi needs to give me some of their money to me so I can throw it around stupidly also.
 
If Beatles are indeed imminent, I can't imagine "the beat goes on" is a Beatle reference (and incredibly obscure to boot), since it's really a Sonny and Cher song. If they wanted a Beatles clue, "come aboard" (all our friends are all aboard) woulda been more like it or "do you want to know a secret", "dig it", "getting better",… I'll be shocked if Beatles get announced. That oughta be more of an October/November thing.
"The Long and Winding Road" would have been better, but would have been too obvious.

Obviously, "The Beat Goes On" is a reference to a new iPod that you can't shut off!
 
If Apple does release new iPods next week I hope we will actually be able to customise the equaliser..... because the the current presets suck when I connect my iPod to my *new* Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Headphones.
 
If Apple does release new iPods next week I hope we will actually be able to customise the equaliser..... because the the current presets suck when I connect my iPod to my *new* Audio Technica ATH-AD700 Headphones.

:D:D:D

All these "If's" keep cracking me up.

APPLE IS RELEASING IPODS ON SEPTEMBER 5TH PEOPLE!!!
 
iPod with WIFI:
...

2) It Will make those on the fence perhaps buy the WIFI iPod, instead of the iPhone....THEREFORE (drumroll)...hurting iPhone sales. And as I showed above, if Apple misses their sales mark of 10,000,000 iphones, even by .1%, hell, even by .01%, that potentially means millions of lost revenue to ATT over the next couple years.
WiFi technology is useless without being in proximity of a network. There's two parts: Part A, the WiFi technology and Part B, a network close enough to access. Both have to be present or who gives a damn -- What's great about the iPhone is that AT&T (theoretically) provides at no additional charge (!) UNLIMITED (!) email/web. Of course, this scenario is based entirely on AT&T's ability to deliver the internet to the device.

I don't believe an iPod with WiFi is going to "make those on the fence buy the iPod instead of the iPhone". And here's why:

The iPhone is a PHONE. The iPod is not a PHONE. If someone is in the market for a phone and they're on the fence, it's not because of a music player that occasionally has access to email and the internet if they happen to be in just the right spot. It's because of (a) cost of the iPhone; (b) cost of the AT&T service; (c) the service provider being AT&T; (d) limitations of the iPhone itself; (e) the competitions' great phones; (e) the competitions' great service; (f) the competitions' great pricing; (g) an expensive fee for breaking a current contract -- or a combination of two or more of these things.

What we know is that the iPhone is getting rave reviews on most every aspect. Most believe that the pricing is great and starting at $59.99*, I have to agree. If there's anything that's keeping people from buying the iPhone it's AT&T's coverage and service.

Is it the money? Well, considering your scenario, it's not money, because the would-be buyer has money for either the hardware: the iPhone or the iPod. Also, since the service contract is pretty good and right in line with most other providers and since we've kind of established that this person is in the market for a phone, it's really not an issue about money for the service.

You spoke of untold millions that AT&T and the lost revenue lost to Apple and their products? Honestly, who cares besides AT&T and their stockholders? Apple has a contract with them that prohibits them to sell the iPhone (and more likely than not, any other type of phone either) to another telephone company. Certainly, it shouldn't include a portable device that gives intermittent access to the internet. Apple already sells those: they're called laptops. Considering the iPod will run OS X, there's no reason that they won't load as much technology as they can into these things, and AT&T darn well knows this. They just care about the phone part.

And so do the fence-sitters.

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The following quote is from a article written by John Gruber. It details an OS X-based iPod and is an awesome read. Highly recommended...

Daring Fireball's John Gruber said:
The simple truth is that the iPhone user experience doesn’t just blow away the experience of other companies’ cell phones — it blows away the experience of Apple’s own iPods. The biggest question, as I see it, is whether Apple plans to introduce iPods that are more or less just the iPod app from the iPhone (i.e. just music and video players), or iPods that are everything but phones, with Wi-Fi networking for email, web, and more.

(read more)... "Regarding OS X-Based iPods"

* 450 weekly minutes •*Unlimited email & web • Built-in visual voicemail • 200 texts • 5000 nights & weekend minutes • Rollover minutes • Unlimited mobile to mobile
 
WiFi technology is useless without being in proximity of a network. There's two parts: Part A, the WiFi technology and Part B, a network close enough to access. Both have to be present or who gives a damn -- What's great about the iPhone is that AT&T (theoretically) provides at no additional charge (!) UNLIMITED (!) email/web. Of course, this scenario is based entirely on AT&T's ability to deliver the internet to the device.

I don't believe an iPod with WiFi is going to "make those on the fence buy the iPod instead of the iPhone". And here's why:

The iPhone is a PHONE. The iPod is not a PHONE. If someone is in the market for a phone and they're on the fence, it's not because of a music player that occasionally has access to email and the internet if they happen to be in just the right spot. It's because of (a) cost of the iPhone; (b) cost of the AT&T service; (c) the service provider being AT&T; (d) limitations of the iPhone itself; (e) the competitions' great phones; (e) the competitions' great service; (f) the competitions' great pricing; (g) an expensive fee for breaking a current contract -- or a combination of two or more of these things.

What we know is that the iPhone is getting rave reviews on most every aspect. Most believe that the pricing is great and starting at $59.99*, I have to agree. If there's anything that's keeping people from buying the iPhone it's AT&T's coverage and service.

Is it the money? Well, considering your scenario, it's not money, because the would-be buyer has money for either the hardware: the iPhone or the iPod. Also, since the service contract is pretty good and right in line with most other providers and since we've kind of established that this person is in the market for a phone, it's really not an issue about money for the service.

* 450 weekly minutes •*Unlimited email & web • Built-in visual voicemail • 200 texts • 5000 nights & weekend minutes • Rollover minutes • Unlimited mobile to mobile

Thanks JGowan.

I thought I was the only one who had the sense to see that Apple will definitely be releasing an iPod that has Wi-Fi in it.

There are alot of people on these boards who are gonna look really stupid after September 5th.
 
think small (shuffle) not big (iphone)

Apparently those guessin big (iphone-like interface) are wrong, and those guessing small (WiFi+shuffle+FM) got it right, if we're to read between the lines of this blog entry of an Apple iPod employee.
 
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