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Do a ABX test, AAC 256, absurd to say one can hear the difference. The placebo effect can play big mind games one must do an ABX .

Actually, it's absurd to categorically say that no one can tell the difference. I'm not an idiot. I know what the placebo effect is and I wouldn't have spent the time/effort/money on maintaining a lossless audio collection if I couldn't tell the difference. I have a pair of JH Audio headphones for work and a much, much more expensive home audio setup at home. On that hardware not only can you hear the difference, it's apparent. If someone comes over and plays an MP3 cd or something on my system it sounds noticeably "off". That's because the speakers can reproduce a much wider range of frequencies and you can hear the clipping from the compression.

Most people don't care about sound quality and won't spend more than $100 on headphones anyway (hell, most people just use the stock apple earbuds). If that's you, great. To each his own. All I'm saying is that some people, like myself, do. Don't fault us for wanting actual high quality sound on our music devices.
 
People who think this is a relevant a worthwhile happening, announcement and milestone for iTunes, who are also educated and can appreciate the relevance of The Beatles and their presence on iTunes: 30-35 and older.

People who bash this news, and post ridiculous comments every 1.3 seconds, who have no real understanding of the relevance and furthermore think they know a lot more than they really do, somehow asserting that Michael Jackson or AC/DC are more important to music than The Beatles and make references to artists like Lady Gaga: 30-35 and younger.

The latter group. Learn something, then get back to us.

Try 40+. 30-35 were too busy listening to 80's music to care about the crap there hippy parents were listening to.
 
People who think this is a relevant a worthwhile happening, announcement and milestone for iTunes, who are also educated and can appreciate the relevance of The Beatles and their presence on iTunes: 30-35 and older.

People who bash this news, and post ridiculous comments every 1.3 seconds, who have no real understanding of the relevance and furthermore think they know a lot more than they really do, somehow asserting that Michael Jackson or AC/DC are more important to music than The Beatles and make references to artists like Lady Gaga: 30-35 and younger.

The latter group. Learn something, then get back to us.

Come on! I am over 35 and say lame, lame, lame. I think people just want to vent on here. No need to start taking shots an intelligence or iq related to taste in music or the Beatles.

Would it be better if this thread was filled with posts like:

"OMG, THIS IT! The moment I have been waiting for all my life".... my iTunes experience will never be the same again now that this is available.

No thanks... I say call it how everyone sees it. Silly.
 
A Day To Remember

Lost in the Beatles shuffle was the first album announced by iTunes in the RSS feed I get on new releases. The name of the group was A Day To Remember and the name of the album was What Separates Me From You. Released at 10:08am EST.

Hmmm, makes you wonder if that is what Jobs really meant to do and fool us all with a release of a catalog from a group that hasn't recorded in over 40 years.

Check it out for yourself!
 
Do people here ever look at the top iTunes singles and album lists? It's made of mostly classic albums (and Taylor Swift). Most people I know who had large CD collections had those CD collections moved into boxes and their stereo's replaced by children toys. Now decades later they have small devices (computers, iPods, iPads and iPhones) which allow them to once again get the music they love. So they buy the albums again. I know families that buy the same "classic" album multiple times in iTunes, because each family member has their own iTunes account.

You know a lot of idiotic families then don't you?

"Oh my god, I've put the original CD in a box in the closet! I'll never reach it in time to just rip it to my iTunes account! Must waste money and download a lesser quality version! For every member of the household!"
 
Overrated?

I'd agree that this announcement was over-rated. I mean, just because Apple had a long feud with The Beatles' record company over their name doesn't mean the REST of us really care that they finally got that all resolved. (And IMO, the entire thing was B.S. from day 1, because NOBODY would ever confuse the Apple Corps. record label with Apple Computer - EVEN after Apple started selling music online. If anything, The Beatles and Apple/Steve Jobs are among the most well recognized names out there! You'd be hard pressed to put any two other business entities up against each other who the general public would have a BETTER idea about.)

That said though? The Beatles, as musicians ... overrated?! You may not like their music at all, but have you even paid any attention to your history? The frenzy they got their audiences into is pretty much unrivaled today. (How many concerts do you go to now where women regularly faint over the sight of the musicians?) They were really pioneers of rock music in MANY ways, including becoming a big influence for many musicians to come, decades later. They did a lot of cool, experimental things with respect to recording techniques too, and were probably one of the first bands to use a symphony orchestra as backing tracks for a song of theirs.


Yay. The overrated Beatles. :rolleyes: Who cares.
 
And they didn't even give us the 90 second song previews! :D

Seriously though, it's an important milestone for iTunes. The Beatles were pretty much the biggest artist not on iTunes before. It's a bit expensive, though, and lets hope Apple at least starts giving us 320kbps soon, if not lossless.

More importantly, this announcement has just brought to my attention the new Jimi Hendrix Anthology on iTunes... Now that's something I'll probably find more interesting.
 
Actually, it's absurd to categorically say that no one can tell the difference. I'm not an idiot. I know what the placebo effect is and I wouldn't have spent the time/effort/money on maintaining a lossless audio collection if I couldn't tell the difference. I have a pair of JH Audio headphones for work and a much, much more expensive home audio setup at home. On that hardware not only can you hear the difference, it's apparent. If someone comes over and plays an MP3 cd or something on my system it sounds noticeably "off". That's because the speakers can reproduce a much wider range of frequencies and you can hear the clipping from the compression.

Most people don't care about sound quality and won't spend more than $100 on headphones anyway (hell, most people just use the stock apple earbuds). If that's you, great. To each his own. All I'm saying is that some people, like myself, do. Don't fault us for wanting actual high quality sound on our music devices.

All irrelevant unless you provide ABX results. 256 is just too high of a bit-rate to to hear any difference without at least ABXing even then it's close to extremely impossible.
 
It's fun watching all the sheeple run around baaaaaaing when their far fetched predictions for an announcement doesn't happen. If this was a major feature like iCloud it wouldn't have been posted the day before in an ad on apple.com to be revealed at a specific time with another ad on apple.com
 
"Decent tablet" FUD FAIL. iPad is the fastest adopted product in recent history, better than that of DVD.

Yet that fact alone neither proves nor disproves it's ability to function in a manner the OP used to qualify his statement. Titanic and Avatar are two of the highest grossing films of all-time. That doesn't prove they're the best movies of all time. Just proves they sold a lot.

Fail. Apple does not offer the outdated MP3, but offers the much better MP4 (AAC).

Keeping things in context FAIL. mp4 and mp3 are both lossy, compressed formats, versus ALC, FLAC, AIFF or WAV. It seemed pretty clear that was the implication the OP was making.

Liberal use of the term FAIL: Win! ;)
 
Everyone hyped this up to be a huge iTunes update. If it was going to be a big update Steve would have been on stage announcing it. This is big news for iTunes but there was no way they were going to announce a cloud based system without a keynote. The Beatles changed music forever and this is worthy of an announcement.
 
Great.... But where is Garth Brooks!!!!

I'd much rather see iTunes get Garth Brooks... :rolleyes:

Honestly, he has sold more albums than anyone... He should be in iTunes..
 
This is still lame and un-interesting.
A complete waste of hype.
 
Lost in Space

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Yawn .... Unless you're a baby boomer or just into really crappy overrated 40+ year old music ....

Right, and music today is just SO good. Take a look at the Rolling Stone Publication "500 Greatest Songs of All Time" 195 of the top 500 were produced in the 1960's. So sunshine, what do you have to say to THAT?
 
To all those who don't understand the anger:

Apple posted a cryptic message saying "Tomorrow will never be the same". What would you think it is? We got excited because we thought there was going to be a big announcement. This is not a big announcement.

Does Best Buy make it an extremely big hype when they add CDs from legendary groups? No, they just issue a press release when they release it. They do not post cryptic messages.

best buy hasnt strived to sell the music of legendary groups.
Not everybody on this forum were alive when the Beetles were big, so this one flew over the vast majority of our heads. Is it good that the beetles are coming to iTunes? Yes, it's spectacular news. Did the marketing department screw up and not understand that your marketing has to be generally understood by the populous? Yes, they screwed up.

its not a question of who was alive and who wasnt when the BEATLES (learn how to spell) were big. im in my mid 20's and i the beatles are my favorite band. its a big deal because the beatles library is turning over into a digital medium.

youre probably one of those young emo kids that likes that "post hardcore" crap. or maybe youre one of those who thinks "rap" is a form of music.
 
All irrelevant unless you provide ABX results. 256 is just too high of a bit-rate to to hear any difference without at least ABXing even then it's close to extremely impossible.

I'm saying I have done an ABX test. So have all of my friends at one point or another when they've been at my place. Most people don't believe it can make a difference so I let them pick the song and put them to the test. I get the lossless version, make a copy and downsample it to 320, let them listen to each once, then play one randomly to see if they can tell if it's lossless or compressed. So far no one has gotten it wrong...
 
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