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The Beatles Appear in iTunes Store

I sell my Beatles collection signed by steve jobs!!

Last Minute Offer!!!! 2$ All my Beatles Colection Signed by Steve-o !!! and i'll let it be all my shittie beatles stuff included the shirt with Lennon drinking a martini in the fiji island!! what a incredible moment!!! Apple u change my day... Spotify im coming!!!
 
They built a data center in North Carolina just for the Beatles?!? I'm confused.

:)

Seriously though, it was an iTunes announcement online...anyone who thought it was a new product or something crazy....well your just crazy. It's a big day for them, it's a huge signing, it's a good day if your a music fan. Case closed.

Will I never forget this day? I almost already have.
 
q64ceo said:
To all those who don't understand the anger:

Apple posted a cryptic message saying "Tomorrow will never be the same". What would you think it is? We got excited because we thought there was going to be a big announcement. This is not a big announcement.
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There's a really cool story my mom used to read me when I was little. It was about a little boy, who cried "wolf!".
 
BlackMangoTree said:
All irrelevant unless you provide ABX results. 256 is just too high of a bit-rate to to hear any difference without at least ABXing even then it's close to extremely impossible.
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... You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Since trying to argue lossless vs constrained bitrates is obviously failing, let me provide a different logical explanation through economics: if it's too hard to hear any difference between lossless and lossy, why do these high end speaker/headphone companies stay in business? There's a reason we have JH13 and JH16's, Klipsch Palladium speakers, etc; it's because there IS a difference. Get some nice headphones or speakers, in fact, they don't even have to be THAT nice ($100-300 will easily show the differences), and compare. The difference between 320 and 256 is huge, and the difference between 256 and lossless is phenomenal.
 
mrblack927 said:
I'm saying I have done an ABX test. So have all of my friends at one point or another when they've been at my place. Most people don't believe it can make a difference so I let them pick the song and put them to the test. I get the lossless version, make a copy and downsample it to 320, let them listen to each once, then play one randomly to see if they can tell if it's lossless or compressed. So far no one has gotten it wrong...
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Interesting.

My conclusion goes on a slightly different approach. Whether one can hear a difference or not, why would I intentionally dumb down my <image,music,video> and take it further from the quality of the source if I can easily avoid it?

People arguing FOR the lowest common denominator when receiving the highest hinders them in little to no way at all, just make no sense to me.

I can take the highest and make it lower if/when necessary, but can never do the reverse. That's as close to a win-win as possible, imo.
 
Joey2250 said:
Awesome for fans of The Beatles, lame for the other 5% of you. The same 5% who happen to be trolls.
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You're 95% wrong. Beatles fans are probably the ones that find this the least exciting. Think about it.

Frankly, anybody who actually pays money for compressed music with DRM restrictions are retarted in my book. Why not just buy the CDs, and get a stable back-up source, real booklets, good sound quality (even if you don't own the hi-fi equipment to make the best out of it now, it's nice to be future proof) and the ability to compress the music with your own specs -- AND play it on CD players -- AND copy them to as many digital devices you want?

In Norway, those Beatles iTunes albums are actually more expensive than the CDs are in some stores (94 NOK vs 89 NOK). The only real use would be to buy single songs you're missing. I can get that. But to buy albums? So retarted!

Was hoping for a streaming service btw, very disappointed.

Beatles rules, I'm gonna listen to them now.
 
velociti03 said:
disappointed is one thing. seems like there is a lot of anger here.
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Because people are petty, greedy little babies?

Seriously, could Apple have given this LESS hype? No press event, no major campaign whatsoever. Just a single graphic on their home page that was up for less than 24 hours, and yet a pretty big percentage of people around here somehow got the impression that Apple was announcing the second coming... As if ANY significant Apple product would get so little hype.

Perspective and context. If you don't have one and pay attention to the other you'll fall into the trap of expecting the world when no such thing was ever alluded to in the first place.
 
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So we can now purchase online a bunch of songs that have been available for the past 40+ years. Ok...
 
Puddinman said:
I like to think that I like high quality sound. I listen for and buy equipment that gives me a sense of the soundstage, natural sound in the voice and instruments and various other things I find important.

I don't care how wide a range of frequencies a speaker can reproduce; a perfect human ear can only hear 20-20000. Most people's ears, especially as we age, are much more limited than that. I personally only go up to about 15500 and I'm 41 years old.

There's also the subtle psychoacoustical magic that happens when you "know" you are playing lossless and when you are playing mp3/AAC. I'm willing to bet you've never done a true blind ABX test. Do it one day with your best headphones (mine are Grado RS1s) and compare a lossless file to a file encoded at 256kbs. If you can pass that test, then congratulations, you have golden ears and impeccable equipment. Enjoy! But you can't argue the fact that for most people, even with really good, but not the best, equipment there will be absolutely no difference between 256+ and lossless. That's just plain science.
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I absolutely agree. Most people can't tell the difference. But some people can. All I'm saying is that Apple should offer the option. How does that hurt anybody?
 
mrblack927 said:
Actually, it's absurd to categorically say that no one can tell the difference. I'm not an idiot. I know what the placebo effect is and I wouldn't have spent the time/effort/money on maintaining a lossless audio collection if I couldn't tell the difference. I have a pair of JH Audio headphones for work and a much, much more expensive home audio setup at home. On that hardware not only can you hear the difference, it's apparent. If someone comes over and plays an MP3 cd or something on my system it sounds noticeably "off". That's because the speakers can reproduce a much wider range of frequencies and you can hear the clipping from the compression.

Most people don't care about sound quality and won't spend more than $100 on headphones anyway (hell, most people just use the stock apple earbuds). If that's you, great. To each his own. All I'm saying is that some people, like myself, do. Don't fault us for wanting actual high quality sound on our music devices.
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I'm all for high-end audio but those JH Audio earbuds are nearly $1200. That's insane! Just give me a pair of Denon AHD 7000's or the Grado PS 1000's.
 
A day we'll never forget?

I've already forgotten? what was it? what happened?

Seriously, Apple really knows how to hype things up and then disappoint thousands!

Who cares about The Beatles on iTunes anyway, everyone who wanted their music has already bought the CD.
 
Puddinman said:
There's also the subtle psychoacoustical magic that happens when you "know" you are playing lossless and when you are playing mp3/AAC. I'm willing to bet you've never done a true blind ABX test. Do it one day with your best headphones (mine are Grado RS1s) and compare a lossless file to a file encoded at 256kbs. If you can pass that test, then congratulations, you have golden ears and impeccable equipment. Enjoy! But you can't argue the fact that for most people, even with really good, but not the best, equipment there will be absolutely no difference between 256+ and lossless. That's just plain science.
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Come on! It´s not even difficult to tell the difference between 320kbps mp3 file and a 24bit, 44.100Khz wave file.

mp3 = bad bad bad!
 
darkplanets said:
... You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Since trying to argue lossless vs constrained bitrates is obviously failing, let me provide a different logical explanation through economics: if it's too hard to hear any difference between lossless and lossy, why do these high end speaker/headphone companies stay in business? There's a reason we have JH13 and JH16's, Klipsch Palladium speakers, etc; it's because there IS a difference. Get some nice headphones or speakers, in fact, they don't even have to be THAT nice ($100-300 will easily show the differences), and compare. The difference between 320 and 256 is huge, and the difference between 256 and lossless is phenomenal.
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Why do cable companies like Monster and Rocketfish stay in business when they offer nothing better for 10x the price?
Because people are easily tricked by "premium" branding, that's why. Just because a premium product exists does not mean it's any better at anything.
 
roland.g said:
I'm 39. Not a big Beatles fan. My dad loves it. It's more his generation. But I am still old enough to get the relevance and not mistakenly think nor claim that Michael Jackson was bigger. Sure on a site like this that has been taken over by 15 year olds, it is going to go right over their heads. I got that. What is probably pissing people off the most is that they have come to expect huge news from Apple, iPhones, iTunes and App Stores, iPads, etc. Steve's One More Things most likely make this feel like a let down.

News flash. They didn't have a media event. Talk about the state of Mac, iTS, iPhone and iPad sales, and then say today we are introducing the Beatles catalog on iTunes. Nope nope, nopety nope. They told everyone to check Apple.com and iTunes today at x time and we did. Got your attention, now you know.

If you feel duped, feel free to boycott Apple products. I certainly won't care.
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So I take your tone that I need to agree that this was a good thing or take my business elsewhere and buy something else?? Seriously...No need for that... I have many Apple products that I enjoy. So I will continue with this and make a smart consumer choice based on my needs for devices.

Will I call something cheesy or lame on a chat board? Yes, I will continue to do this because I have an opinion like the rest and just because I like Apple products, it does not mean I need to like everything they say or do. If anything that would be an indicator of intelligence as oppose to taste in music, such as the Beatles.

I just thought it was cheap for Apple to do this based on the hype surrounding ios 4.2 and everyone hitting their site looking for the release etc... It was a cheap shot imo....but it is just my opinion. :D
 
All songs and any kind of media should be free after 20 years of publication. As patents do.
 
Despite all the negative vibes here, It's all about the money and this is going to make a lot of money for them. There are massive numbers in my age category that get a bit nostalgic (like when I played the commercial clips) that will buy songs.

Peace
 
lukefinch said:
A day we'll never forget?

I've already forgotten? what was it? what happened?

Seriously, Apple really knows how to hype things up and then disappoint thousands!

Who cares about The Beatles on iTunes anyway, everyone who wanted their music has already bought the CD.
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Having worked as a commercial artist in the field of advertising for the better part of 20 years I'd say that if this little graphic they put up yesterday got you so worked up and then so let down... That's on you, not Apple.
 
ender21 said:
Interesting.

My conclusion goes on a slightly different approach. Whether one can hear a difference or not, why would I intentionally dumb down my <image,music,video> and take it further from the quality of the source if I can easily avoid it?

People arguing FOR the lowest common denominator when receiving the highest hinders them in little to no way at all, just make no sense to me.

I can take the highest and make it lower if/when necessary, but can never do the reverse. That's as close to a win-win as possible, imo.
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Now that's a valid argument. I do this too.

My original point was that it's amusing to hear anger that Apple doesn't offer this in lossless format. It's amusing because if you want lossless, it's easily available. It comes on a shiny disk that is available from thousands of retailers worldwide. You know, CDs?

But the point remains that most people on most equipment will not discern a difference. Not saying that no one will but that less than 1% of music consumers might.
 
Interestingly enough: the angrier people here get... the more they prove how much Apple dominates their emotions.

:rolleyes:

[to those who are yawning: go back to bed... i guess today wasn't "about you". ;) ]




Surf Monkey said:
Having worked as a commercial artist in the field of advertising for the better part of 20 years I'd say that if this little graphic they put up yesterday got you so worked up and then so let down... That's on you, not Apple.
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Yeahp. PSYCHED!!! and PUNKED!!! all at once. :D
 
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