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To all those who don't understand the anger:

Apple posted a cryptic message saying "Tomorrow will never be the same". What would you think it is? We got excited because we thought there was going to be a big announcement. This is not a big announcement.


Uhhh...no, they didn't. They said "Tomorrow is just another day. That you'll never forget." It's a pun on Beatles (actually, Paul McCartney) lyrics. Don't read into it too much. The clocks are probably a pun on the album cover posted yesterday, too.

I don't particularly care for the Beatles, either, but it's hardly anything to get angry about. If you are angry, you read too much into rumors.
 
You're smoking something if you think that Michael Jackson was bigger and more popular than The Beatles. Serious reality check. I listen to his stuff more than theirs, but they were still bigger 7 days a week and twice on Sunday (or Tuesday).

Michael Jackson had one good album in 1986. But then he had a producer miles better than any producer the Beatles ever had, and musicians helping him who were the best that money could buy at the time. And from that album on, it went downhill. A man who thought he could save the world and all the children and couldn't even save himself. Some serious talent wasted.
 
Having worked as a commercial artist in the field of advertising for the better part of 20 years I'd say that if this little graphic they put up yesterday got you so worked up and then so let down... That's on you, not Apple.


exactly, also, they mentioned an 'iTunes announcement' and thats exactly what we got. nothing more, nothing less.
 
Man, even the legendary Apple PR machine strikes out occasionally. I mean, who cares?
 
1. Love Apple products
2. Love The Beatles

BUT I HATE THE APPLE HYPE MACHINE!!!!

and it is getting worse as the company continues its descent from a company run by engineers/geeks into a corporate cash cow........

and if I EVER hear the word "magical" again I will hurl.


But you still got to love them....they are the only company that can hype...everybody else tries but fails...and every other company wants to have Apples Hype Machine...
 
Why do cable companies like Monster and Rocketfish stay in business when they offer nothing better for 10x the price?
Because people are easily tricked by "premium" branding, that's why. Just because a premium product exists does not mean it's any better at anything.

Sounds familiar...
 
To all those who don't understand the anger:

Apple posted a cryptic message saying "Tomorrow will never be the same". What would you think it is? We got excited because we thought there was going to be a big announcement. This is not a big announcement.

Does Best Buy make it an extremely big hype when they add CDs from legendary groups? No, they just issue a press release when they release it. They do not post cryptic messages.

Not everybody on this forum were alive when the Beetles were big, so this one flew over the vast majority of our heads. Is it good that the beetles are coming to iTunes? Yes, it's spectacular news. Did the marketing department screw up and not understand that your marketing has to be generally understood by the populous? Yes, they screwed up.

For starters they called The Beatles, not the Beetles.

You do not consider what they did a press release? Then what was it? The first created a splash page to drum up some interest and then the next day they dropped the announcement. If that's not a press release then what is?

When The Beatles remastered CD's were released last year there was quite a bit of fanfare. Best Buy and other stores promoted it heavily with in-store displays, print ads and TV ads.

In fact, the remastered CD's helped to keep the struggling CD sales up during the holiday season.

People who are angered by this are just ignorant to the value of having The Beatles on iTunes, the power of Apple's advertising, how promotion is done in the 21 century and how great and influential The Beatles still are.

And for those wondering how well classic albums sell, take a look at the iTunes charts:

93: Pink Floyd - The Wall (released 1979)
123: Bob Marley - Legend (released 1984)
149: Creedance Clearwater Revival - Greatest Hits (released 1976)
173: Moulin Rouge Soundtrack (released 2001)
200: Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon (1973)

There are even a couple of different Billy Joel Greatest Hits. These along with The Beatles albums are all albums that just don't leave the top 500 charts. People buy them over and over again and in most cases if you walk into a Walmart, Target or Best Buy they will be in their shrinking music departments. For one reason and one reason only, people buy them over and over again, generation after generation.
 
What a let down, I ripped the Beatles albums I have had since the early 90's a long time ago they have been in itunes on my computer ever since. Buzz kill Apple!!!
 
Interestingly enough: the angrier people here get... the more they prove how much Apple dominates their emotions.

:rolleyes:

[to those who are yawning: go back to bed... i guess today wasn't "about you". ;) ]





Yeahp. PSYCHED!!! and PUNKED!!! all at once. :D


Yep...apple got us by the balls...We all hate itunes but we also love it...
 
gnasher said:
But then he had a producer miles better than any producer the Beatles ever had

Guess you don't really know anything about music production and it's history. Interesting that, coming from such a position, you'd go ahead and post what you just did. Sometimes it's better to say nothing when you don't know what you're talking about.
 
... You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Since trying to argue lossless vs constrained bitrates is obviously failing, let me provide a different logical explanation through economics: if it's too hard to hear any difference between lossless and lossy, why do these high end speaker/headphone companies stay in business? There's a reason we have JH13 and JH16's, Klipsch Palladium speakers, etc; it's because there IS a difference. Get some nice headphones or speakers, in fact, they don't even have to be THAT nice ($100-300 will easily show the differences), and compare. The difference between 320 and 256 is huge, and the difference between 256 and lossless is phenomenal.

There is most definitely a huge difference between consumer-grade equipment and audiophile-grade equipment. No one is arguing that. The argument is that it would take the best of equipment and the most pristine of ears to possibly discern a difference between 256+ and lossless in a true blind ABX test. Since the vast majority of people do not have such biological or audiophile-grade equipment, the vast majority of people don't care and 256 is just fine.
 
Uhhh...no, they didn't. They said "Tomorrow is just another day. That you'll never forget." It's a pun on Beatles (actually, Paul McCartney) lyrics. Don't read into it too much. The clocks are probably a pun on the album cover posted yesterday, too.

I don't particularly care for the Beatles, either, but it's hardly anything to get angry about. If you are angry, you read too much into rumors.

Look down PAST that section where I say that it flew over everyone's head.
 
this kind of PR totally disqualifies Apple. Pathetic.

And BTW the day I never forget is when Apple introduced in 2010 MacBook Airs without UMTS built-in. :mad:
 
Michael Jackson had one good album in 1986. But then he had a producer miles better than any producer the Beatles ever had, and musicians helping him who were the best that money could buy at the time. And from that album on, it went downhill. A man who thought he could save the world and all the children and couldn't even save himself. Some serious talent wasted.

Which album did he release in 1986 and whos this producer who helped him in 1986? :confused:
 
Come on! I am over 35 and say lame, lame, lame. I think people just want to vent on here. No need to start taking shots an intelligence or iq related to taste in music or the Beatles.

Would it be better if this thread was filled with posts like:

"OMG, THIS IT! The moment I have been waiting for all my life".... my iTunes experience will never be the same again now that this is available.

No thanks... I say call it how everyone sees it. Silly.

I don't think you're look at this the right way. It's not about venting, come on, get real about it. The people posting negative comments are here only to piss people off that they consider to be "Apple fanboys". Why post such angry comments about a company that has done absolutely nothing to these people other than advertise on their own website about a special announcement from iTunes within 24hrs. Nobody's time was wasted unless they did an "All-Nighter" waiting for any further rumors, and if that's the case they are the ones that are lame for doing so.

If people weren't excited after the announcement all they had to post here was "Oh, well I expected more from Apple, oh The Beatles? Not for me" No reason to post such hate comments (such as, "I will never buy another Apple product, BLAH BLAH BLAH") other than to intentionally piss people off here and you know this for truth.
 
I absolutely agree. Most people can't tell the difference. But some people can. All I'm saying is that Apple should offer the option. How does that hurt anybody?

Exactly!

And if you're buying a "collection", meant to last many years, you should be able to purchase it in something approaching archival quality.
 
The reason everyone is so disappointed with this, is that there was as much hype from Apple about the iPad when it was released. Sure - there was a whole lot more done by us on MacRumors/AppleInsider etc websites, but we'd had reports of 9.7 inch touch screens being bought by Apple etc at the time...
Nothing was really confirmed by Apple, other than there being an announcement scheduled...

Along comes yesterday, and they advertise on their iTunes site, saying: Tomorrow will be a day you will never forget...

From a company that made less song-and-dance about a product of theirs that is causing a huge shift in the way people are choosing their main web browsing platform, people were expecting something big from this...

Yep, it all comes back to everyone EXPECTING something bigger, but the fact that Apple have made more of a build up on their site about this, than any of their own products, it's not unexpected that people were getting this hyped...

And therefore, not unexpectedly, people have been disappointed...
 
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