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stainlessliquid said:
So, people who don't want to dick around with ripping CDs are idiots now? There's no other reasons that they might not want to go to the trouble of ripping other than their innate lack of intelligence? Glad you cleared that up.

Yep, that about sums it up. Anyone who has been waiting years for itunes to get the Beatles so they can pay around $100 to buy the songs again instead of ripping a handful of cds is a textbook idiot. Its hard to think of a bigger kind of idiot.

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We'd have the exact same stuff it just wouldn't have an Apple on it. You do realize that Apple buys almost all its technology and slaps its pretty design around it and a logo on it. Apple doesn't think of it all.

There was nothing in my posts that said Apple thought of anything. My point is tech in general has been boring for most of the industry. Outside of game consoles Apple has been the only company to make it exciting to buy tech and people look forward to anything new that Apple comes out with. Doubt if anyone could say the same thing about Dell, HP or even Sony. It's also a real shame that you are very narrow-minded. I think YOU need to realize you're in a fantasy world of you think what you're saying is true. :rolleyes:
 
Exactly. The Beatles are not just some band from the 60s. They're the pop music equivalent of Picasso or the classical music equivalent of Mozart. EVERYTHING that comes after The Beatles is colored by the ground they broke.

Exactly. Pop music. Not exactly the most respected genre of music around these days. The Beatles were the product of a great marketing machine not great music.

Comparing the Beatles to Mozart. Get out of here.
 
There was nothing in my posts that said Apple thought of anything. My point is tech in general has been boring for most of the industry. Outside of game consoles Apple has been the only company to make it exciting to buy tech and people look forward to anything new that Apple comes out with. Doubt if anyone could say the same thing about Dell, HP or even Sony.

You didn't have to say it. By dragging in Microsoft we get what you are trying to do.
 

+2 all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that many people don't know how to rip CDs or don't want to go to the trouble when they can just download stuff directly to iTunes. My girlfriend is a prime example. I've showed her how to rip CDs on several occasions and she still doesn't do it herself. "It's too time consuming and too hard." I assure you, she's not an idiot. She simply has different priorities. She feels that she has better things to do with her time than mess around with ripping CDs. She finds it far more time and cost effective to just download from iTMS directly to her iTunes library. She's far from unique in that respect.

So, again: it's a major mistake to think that your behavior is universal. It isn't. People approach this stuff in different ways. That doesn't make them idiots. It just makes them different from you.
 
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Best Selling CD of the last decade (1: The Beatles)

Yep. No one care about forty year old music :rolleyes:

After all these years on MacRumors, I have realized one thing.

People are never happy. The only people who over-hyped this was the users and the tech media. Not Apple. It's like some kids at Christmas. After unwrapping all their presents, they say "That's it?" "I'm bored!"

You don't like the Beatles, that's fine. Your choice. But don't think your view represents everyone. There are people who will buy this stuff.

I'm sorry you didn't get :::insert Apple product here::: , but some of you people need to grow up. :(
I agree with this. Overhyped? Apple put an ad about it on their front page. And that's it.

For those of you saying "Beatles fans already have the CDs": perhaps this will create an opportunity for young people to get into the Beatles.
 
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+2 all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that many people don't know how to rip CDs or don't want to go to the trouble when they can just download stuff directly to iTunes. My girlfriend is a prime example. I've showed her how to rip CDs on several occasions and she still doesn't do it herself. "It's too time consuming and too hard." I assure you, she's not an idiot. She simply has different priorities. She feels that she has better things to do with her time than mess around with ripping CDs. She finds it far more time and cost effective to just download from iTMS directly to her iTunes library. She's far from unique in that respect.

So, again: it's a major mistake to think that your behavior is universal. It isn't. People approach this stuff in different ways. That doesn't make them idiots. It just makes them different from you.

You're girlfriend isn't very smart than.

My 75 year old grandmother rips CD's while playing Bubbles on Facebook.
 
Then you need to think about it a little more. Clearly you're stuck in your personal worldview and have trouble imagining any other way of doing things than how you do.

It seems you need think about the meaning of "habit" some more. According to you the man who refuses to cross the street because there is no cab to take him there isnt an idiot because he has a habit of paying money and waiting a long time to do short simple tasks rather than habitually walking across like everyone else.
 
Exactly. Pop music. Not exactly the most respected genre of music around these days. The Beatles were the product of a great marketing machine not great music.

Comparing the Beatles to Mozart. Get out of here.

There's where you're dead wrong. Pop music is no less artistically significant than any other kind of music. Furthermore, The Beatles clearly transcend the genre and have been validated by the serious music world by standing the test of time. Lennon and McCartney were composers of merit who happened to work in a particular genre. That's the long and the short of it. Attempting to say that pop music has no inherent value is absurd on the face of it.
 
to be fair, didn't they quote a song with the "tomorrow will be a day you'll never forget" (or w/e quote it is?)

either way, i'm pretty disappointed with this announcement. i know they had a large impact on music, but their music never really appealed to me.
 
You're girlfriend isn't very smart than.

That's an incredibly insulting and flatly false thing to say. Your basic premise here is that because some people do things differently than how you do them means that they're idiots. From where I sit, that statement is what's idiotic, not my girlfriend's lack of desire to rip CDs.

My 75 year old grandmother rips CD's while playing Bubbles on Facebook.

So, that means that EVERY grandmother does the same thing, right? That seems to be your thesis.
 
Everybody's reaction is really funny on this one.
Like you were all born yesterday or something, I'm sorry but it's true, please all read yourselves again.
Apple didn't 'overhype' anything. That was just ONE ad. These to lines of text are called 'advertising'.
Please don't you all cry about this!
 
Yeah, and that's why Beethoven and Mozart never sell anymore.

Sorry, but the "they're from the '60s so no one will buy it" argument is hogwash. Go look at the top charts on iTunes today. I rest my case.

1) Most people that listen to classical music are audiophiles and sneer at the thought of buying a 256mpbs lossy AAC or MP3. Most classical music sold is a) on CD and b) new interpretations. Not all recordings of Beethoven's 9th are regarded the same. Music companies are not just cranking out the same version year after year. New conductors, new orchestras come on board.

2) I never made the argument that "they are from the 60's so no one will buy it". I made the argument that the Beatles owners are late to the game and many of their fans don't need to download it anymore. It's the same as selling christmas trees on Dec 24th.
 
It seems you need think about the meaning of "habit" some more. According to you the man who refuses to cross the street because there is no cab to take him there isnt an idiot because he has a habit of paying money and waiting a long time to do short simple tasks rather than habitually walking across like everyone else.

Bad analogy and bogus attempt to suggest that I used the word habit wrong. Try again. You'll get it right eventually.
 
That's an incredibly insulting and flatly false thing to say. Your basic premise here is that because some people do things differently than how you do them means that they're idiots. From where I sit, that statement is what's idiotic, not my girlfriend's lack of desire to rip CDs.



So, that means that EVERY grandmother does the same thing, right? That seems to be your thesis.

Your GF probaly doesnt like music too much or it isnt a must have thing. What people are saying is your an idiot if you WAITED so long for itunes to put music on the store for you to DL. If you wanted to have the beatles on your ipod, then you could of just ripped the cds, even if you only ripped 2 albums per year you would be done loading all songs on your itunes library.
 
1) Most people that listen to classical music are audiophiles and sneer at the thought of buying a 256mpbs lossy AAC or MP3. Most classical music sold is a) on CD and b) new interpretations. Not all recordings of Beethoven's 9th are regarded the same.

You have no evidence to back that statement up. While many audiophiles are fans of classical music there are plenty who listen to it on the radio, via services like iTunes and so forth. Furthermore, there are plenty that own the same recording on different formats and who buy the same performances in remastered versions when they're available.

One thing you're also failing to consider is this: Many Beatles fans bought the original CD releases of these albums and then skipped the new remastered box sets when they came out exactly because they chose to wait until they could get them in digital format. The fact that many of these people waited about 12 months to get them from iTunes rather than buying a bunch of packaging that they didn't want and spending a bunch of time ripping discs that they weren't interested in spending does not make them idiots.

2) I never made the argument that "they are from the 60's so no one will buy it". I made the argument that the Beatles owners are late to the game and many of their fans don't need to download it anymore. It's the same as selling christmas trees on Dec 24th.

Not really. As I already pointed out, the iTunes charts already prove that statement wrong.
 
Your GF probaly doesnt like music too much or it isnt a must have thing.

Wrong. She's one of the most avid music fans I know. She just doesn't like jerking around with ripping CDs.

What people are saying is your an idiot if you WAITED so long for itunes to put music on the store for you to DL. If you wanted to have the beatles on your ipod, then you could of just ripped the cds, even if you only ripped 2 albums per year you would be done loading all songs on your itunes library.

Again, this assumes that everyone approaches their music collections in the same way you do. They don't. As I just said in an earlier post, there are many reasons why people waited to download digital versions rather than buy the remastered CDs last year.

Don't believe me? Go read the threads here:

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=195893

These are discussions that were happening when the box sets were released. You'll see many hundreds of members explaining exactly why they intended to wait for iTunes versions rather than buy the box sets.
 
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