So Skype is special, their own protocols and all that?
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There was someone here who wanted to write stuff for PowerPC, this seems like a good place to start.
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The end of PPC
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So Skype is special, their own protocols and all that?
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There was someone here who wanted to write stuff for PowerPC, this seems like a good place to start.
Apparently, yes. I don't know why Skype is being such an arse about all this, but I guess the percentage of PowerPC users is less than 5 percent, so by that rhetoric they believe cutting them off would save them time and money.
Sadly, this is causing anger within the PowerPC community and I fear it could get loud as time moves on.
Sadly, this is causing anger within the PowerPC community and I fear it could get loud as time moves on.
Guess you can count me as the resistance. The two Macs in the sig are my primary machines, and you'll note one is a Quad G5.
Preach on, PPC dude!!!
Guess you can count me as the resistance. The two Macs in the sig are my primary machines, and you'll note one is a Quad G5.
As a MacUser since 128K I bring a fresh old perspective don't I?
I have several macs around and do NOT dispose of working machines as long as I can still squeeze productivity out of software/hardware combos. Several of my machines operate offline for security.
Every time I hear that...."Oh! You're using OS9 Classic on a PowerPc...can I TOUCH you to see if you turn to dust?"
I simply refer such naysayers to some of my Weekly Deliverables Here
1) Shot with a nikon point and shoot camera
3) stupid simple pocket flash and ambient light
4) processed in Photoshop6 ( not CS6... 'Just 6') and Macromedia freehand 10 on a G4 PowerPC Powerbook 17 with maxed out RAM an a 250GB drive.
It's not fast, it's not powerful but... It's been PAID FOR 10 years ago
Now. I have newer tools for video editing and I really ought to upgrade my still image software to run on an Intel Mac at least, esp as Adobe is pulling all that cloud bull on us.
Looks Like I can run Photoshop version CS5.1 on my Intel Macs Natively.
If you have a copy you want to sell me, please give me a holler
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Ahhhh, Photoshop 6 and Freehand!
First worked with 6 in 1999 when I was an Ad Compositor at the Desert Sun in Palm Springs, Ca. PowerMac G4 with that and Freehand 8. I have always been a Freehand fan over Illustrator. It had way more going for it than Illy, but alas Adobe buried it.
We we're also using QuarkXPress 4.11 and Acrobat 4.0 on OS9 then. I managed to snag the Graphic Designer's mac, so the designer was on OS8.something.
ATM Deluxe, Suitcase 6. Great time. I wasn't a Mac convert at that time, but it was a great machine with great apps to work on back then. Freehand 8 was my Swiss Army knife can opener because it would open ANY file that Photoshop or Illy choked on.
My take on this is that, a tool is only as effective or as efficient as the skill of the worker. Or a brush is only as artistic as hands of the artist that holds it.
It all goes back to the capability of the person behind that computer. No matter how old or new the tool is, the artist is still the one that gives life to an artwork.
A computer is basically just a tool, our powerpc mac is a tool. Well, may not be an advanced tool with all the bling, but it is still a tool, and still a good tool.
It all goes back to the capability of the person behind that computer. No matter how old or new the tool is, the artist is still the one that gives life to an artwork.
A computer is basically just a tool, our powerpc mac is a tool. Well, may not be an advanced tool with all the bling, but it is still a tool, and still a good tool.
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supporting legacy hardware as Firewire, ZIP drives and discs, SCSI equipment and the same, PowerPC never will die. Developing?....Depends in how fast you want to compile and the code/languaje you are using. Wireless standards must be backwards compatible until some point in the time. More important is the parts needed to mantain the PPC hardware running as RAM, HDDs and so on. Makers/manufacturers have little interest in the making of old techno. So, in some moment we will not have parts to mantain old hardware running and that will be the TRUE end of the PowerPC platform, IMHO.....
supporting legacy hardware as Firewire, ZIP drives and discs, SCSI equipment and the same, PowerPC never will die. Developing?....Depends in how fast you want to compile and the code/languaje you are using. Wireless standards must be backwards compatible until some point in the time. More important is the parts needed to mantain the PPC hardware running as RAM, HDDs and so on. Makers/manufacturers have little interest in the making of old techno. So, in some moment we will not have parts to mantain old hardware running and that will be the TRUE end of the PowerPC platform, IMHO.....
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic...l-be-dropping-support-for-java-5-and-powerpc/
I know minecraft run on G5s very well and Mojang is dropping PPC support, fortunately other flash games still work with the 11.5 spoof hack, but that's just the matter of time.
I know minecraft run on G5s very well and Mojang is dropping PPC support, fortunately other flash games still work with the 11.5 spoof hack, but that's just the matter of time.
A modern mac mini will out perform a powerpc based mac in all respects.
in FAR less power consumption, space, noise, heat, etc.
in FAR less power consumption, space, noise, heat, etc.
My PowerMac is faster though. I have 4 cores. I have 2.5GHz. I have an HD 7970 that refuses to work!
The Mac mini is faster though. It has up to 4 cores. It has 2.6GHz. It has Thunderbolt. It has USB3. It has HDMI. It has a graphics card with a ROM that both exists and works!
In fact, every Mac mini made in 2010 on (with the exception of the absolute low end model) is faster than your G5.
They're also more expensive.
Uhm…with the exception of cost, if speed was the deciding factor for us concerning the Macs we use, this conversation would never have happened.
Of course most of the Intel Macs are faster than PowerPC Macs. But that isn't why we're here. The fact that the sky is blue and water is wet and Intel is faster is immaterial to the discussion.
Of course most of the Intel Macs are faster than PowerPC Macs. But that isn't why we're here. The fact that the sky is blue and water is wet and Intel is faster is immaterial to the discussion.
I can have up to 64GB of (non functioning) RAM, I have 3 firewire ports and 4 USB ports. I have 3 DVI ports (1 not working, 1 not functioning in OS X, linux untested) 2 mini display (not working in OS X, linux untested)
and HDMI (not working), I can easily upgrade my computer, I have a faster GPU (not functioning in OS X, linux untested).
Wow what a great argument - you really make us all look good, almost makes me want to sell my G5...
Thats the problem though. PowerPC is so slow now. The software has now outrun the hardware and needs faster hardware to run it efficiently or it's silly slow hours or days to do things. Or you end up cave man like stuck in PPC land.
Or you learn how to work the PowerPC Mac like a poweruser and optimize it. And then you develop workflows and workarounds to achieve what you need to achieve. Unless you want to stay like a regular Mac user who does not tend to know much about how their Mac works. Then you go with Intel.
Again, my coworker uses a PowerMac G4/450 AGP, 1GB ram with Leopard and the Adobe Creative Suite 4. It gets the job done for ads, pagination, legals and classifieds. Sure, an Intel Mac would be much faster at this and we do have that in the upgrade plans. But it gets the job done right now.
I had a G5 here with the same software load out. It also got the job done. It died, so it got replaced with an Intel Mac. Which I find laggy in some issues and frustrating in others because my old G5 just handled it.
I'm not trying to win a speed race and we do not edit video. We are a weekly newspaper and PowerPC works.
If it works and you meet your deadlines and you're happy with it why do you have to go to Intel? In my industry, with a few exceptions, a PDF is a PDF. It doesn't matter if Pagemaker 5, QuarkXPress 3 or ID 2.0 make it. It's a PDF! My point is, the job got done.
And by the way it never takes days. We put out two sections of a newspaper in one 8 hour shift with deadlines of 1pm and 4pm. ID CS4 handles that just fine on a G5 and a G4.