The iOS 10.x.x Beta Speculation Thread

Discussion in 'iOS 10' started by gwhizkids, Jan 12, 2017.

  1. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    So it sounds like apple make beta testers do the full installer when they think they're close to a Gm, presumably to overwrite the previous beta tested versions, but don't make users do them going from public versions
     
  2. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    Yes. Usually the first beta and the last beta (final candidate) are full installers. If Apple does not seed a final candidate, then the final from beta is usually the full installer.
     
  3. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    Does the fact that they employ full installers say anything about whether the public should be using full installers or is it purely best practices for launching software at scale?

    The only time I've done a full installer I've run in to problems..
     
  4. robert1998 macrumors 6502

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    So if we don t get any beta today or something else that means 10.3.3 is the last presumed update for iOS 10 :))
     
  5. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    I think the developer profile is closed for 10.x. Next is ios11
     
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  7. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    Yes. Unless there is an emergency security update.
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    Full installers are used with beta 1 because it has all the beta software bundled in. Full installers are used for the the final. Because it's removing all the beta software from that was bundled in.

    I have never once had a problem with a full installer. But about 50% of my OTAs for the last 5+ years have been bad installs.
     
  8. dan9700 macrumors 68000

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    Maybe my ocd is playing up but i went ota with beta 6 to final and slightly lag here and there nothing to bad, should i restore with ipws with final one or will it not make any difference, i always feel fresh when its restored and not updated but maybe thats ocd lol
     
  9. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    Thats what I was experiencing. I reset all settings on both devices. Pain in the butt to set up, but seems to be okay.
     
  10. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    Why not restore your backup and then do the full install?
     
  11. dan9700 macrumors 68000

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    Yeah, for me always my mail app ios mail lags might reset settings :)
     
  12. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    Because that will copy the corruption issue into the backup and restore it after restoring the backup.
     
  13. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    I mean a backup you did before updating
     
  14. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    I can't. I have an Apple Watch. So I would lose my streaks/data. I'm at 289 days in a row of perfect circles. Not risking losing that. Every time I get this close to the 365 medal, something happens and my data is erased. Only 76 more days! Have had my watch for over 2 years (since launch) and still unable to get the 365 day medal.
     
  15. Galacticos macrumors 6502a

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    Hehe. Dedicated
     
  16. chillenandy321 macrumors regular

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    My battery app stats are not showing after update. Says will be in available in a few minutes. Might have to do a restore this evening.
     
  17. gwang73 macrumors 6502a

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    I think this is intentional :Do_O
     
  18. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    I'm beginning to think you are right. Last year, I was at 310 days when I was hit by the iOS 10.1 health restore bug. I was so upset! Yes first world problems, but I bust my butt off every single day and I really want that damn medal!

    I just need to make it till iOS 11 is released to public, then my health data will always be safe in the cloud.

    I'm probably the reason why they finally broke up health data from backups. I have written in 200+ feedbacks about it because every single time something goes wrong, Apple makes you do a restore as new, and there goes health data.
     
  19. gwang73 macrumors 6502a

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    They should've done cloud syncing from the start if you ask me. I've lost my data so many times I just don't care about the activity tracker anymore.
     
  20. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    I'm fairly certain this thread is now about to die permanently. The chances we get more updates are very low. Only security emergencies at this point, and being only 8 weeks away. Very unlikely.
     
  21. yanki01 macrumors 68040

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    can't come soon enough. solely for a new iPhone.
     
  22. sbailey4 macrumors 68040

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    You should try the process I always do for OTA. Only 1 time have I had an OTA update issue that required be to do something to get things sorted and that was before I started this process. Close all apps, then reboot device. Install update as soon as it comes back up before launching any other apps. Never had an OTA update issue since and I run all the betas too. Maybe luck? Maybe this process? It makes perfect since tho to close down everything before updating an OS.
     
  23. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    For the most part I have all apps closed on my device before OTAs. But I have never rebooted directly before an update. Will definitely try that with 11.0.1.
     
  24. robotica macrumors 6502a

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    Wow I have never once had a ota update fail.... and I install the first day (usually the first hour) they are released.

    If 50% was of your updates are failing there must be something wrong.
     
  25. Mlrollin91 macrumors G5

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    They don't fail. Never said they fail. I said I have issues after the install.
     

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