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THE iOS7 Maps Thread

MozMan68 said:
Since they're adding an app to OSX I wonder how long before it is readily available on all computers? This seems to be the best way to get submittals from anyone in an easy to use interface.
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What is the point?

They can't cope with the error reports they are already receiving. They still haven't fixed dozens of errors I reported a year ago and many other forum members are reporting similar experiences. I can't see how adding even more reports to the already full backlog will help.
 
I like Apple Maps very much. It doesn't have as much POI's as Google Maps does, but for navigation it's awesome. The UI is super clear and user friendly, and the ability to lock the phone while navigating so your battery doesn't drain like crazy is quite nice. I exclusively use Apple Maps for navigation (I also have Waze and Google Maps) and I see no reason to change my preference.
 
If Apple had just made Maps a GPS/SatNav app, the feedback would have been much better.
 
OllyW said:
What is the point?

They can't cope with the error reports they are already receiving. They still haven't fixed dozens of errors I reported a year ago and many other forum members are reporting similar experiences. I can't see how adding even more reports to the already full backlog will help.
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The point is, that is how Google Maps was created. Desktop editing gives a user a much better interface to not only make corrections, but more specifically, note the stuff that ISN'T there.

The number of input methods is irrelevant...it is the number of people looking into the data that matters and we already know they have been adding those folks everywhere for the past 6-9 months.
 
OllyW said:
What is the point?

They can't cope with the error reports they are already receiving. They still haven't fixed dozens of errors I reported a year ago and many other forum members are reporting similar experiences. I can't see how adding even more reports to the already full backlog will help.
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Agreed.

If they can't handle the reports they should implement something like TomTom's "Mapshare corrections" - where users can fix errors themselves, and you have the option of accepting user-corrected fixes to your maps.

If they did something like that they should of course offer a way of uninstalling individual or all corrections.
 
Nermal said:
Argh, not this again... I wish I'd never posted it now!

I did see that sign a fair bit in the UK but as a visitor I had no way of knowing that it meant 70 (or 60 in some cases!) without having to look it up. The GPS, on the other hand, explicitly listed 70.

That's my point; as a visitor, having the actual number displayed on the phone is more helpful than a sign that doesn't show the number.
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That's the thing. The speed limit is the 'national speed limit' rather than a fixed limit. In other words, if the national speed limit changes from 60mph to 70mph for single carriageway roads, and from 70mph to 80mph for all dual carriageways/motorways, then all of those signs will not need to be changed.

If they actually had numbers printed on them, they would need to be changed.
 
Yelp?

chriscl said:
I've also submitted lots of 'corrections' to the POI information for my local area (over 20) since iOS 6 and the new Apple Maps were released, and none of them are in the new iOS7 Apple Maps.

My local pub - which has been there for (at least) 30 years doesn't exist; and there are phantom companies along the main street where I live, many of which I've never heard of (and i've lived here six years!)

There are also some recent (~last 12 months) road alterations (new junctions et al) that aren't in Apple Maps.

I'll stick with it, for now, as I like the interface. But I do wish they'd get the POI information updated, especially when it seems so many people (judging by this thread, and others) have submitted corrections!
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Have you tried adding your pub to Yelp? They get a lot of POI from Yelp and I think they add faster. Won't help the streets though.
 
uhaas said:
Have you tried adding your pub to Yelp? They get a lot of POI from Yelp and I think they add faster. Won't help the streets though.
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Now you see, that's the kicker - the Pub *is* in Yelp, and has been for some time (at least since I first installed Yelp on my iPhone well over 18 months ago).

I'm sure it will turn up... one day!
 
chriscl said:
Now you see, that's the kicker - the Pub *is* in Yelp, and has been for some time (at least since I first installed Yelp on my iPhone well over 18 months ago).

I'm sure it will turn up... one day!
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You sure it's not there, but just in the wrong place? :D
 
uhaas said:
You sure it's not there, but just in the wrong place? :D
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Probably the only time I will ever say this in my lifetime...

Correct in Yelp, incorrect in Apple and Google Maps...:p
 

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rikscha said:
Apparently you have no idea about traffic signs. This sign is pretty much global and simply means there is no speed restriction on the road you are driving on. Usually put up when there was a speed restriction and it is ending. No restriction in terms of, you can go as fast as permitted by your traffic laws which seems to be 100 on the particular road you were driving on.
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That slash sign means nothing in the us
 
In Fiji here on business, right in Suva city center.

Absolutely worthless. Can't even find my hotel.

Google maps is king. Finds anything so far I need and while it doesn't do turn by turn, it can show me the route overview and I can track my location against the route.

Always interesting to see the differences as I hop countries.
 
OllyW said:
What is the point?

They can't cope with the error reports they are already receiving. They still haven't fixed dozens of errors I reported a year ago and many other forum members are reporting similar experiences. I can't see how adding even more reports to the already full backlog will help.
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That's exactly the point. They need to get more of their staff to work on the reports, if they're unable to handle them now. Maybe when they get even more reports after releasing Mavericks, they'll see something is really wrong with the way they handle it.

I don't expect them to *know* that a certain factory in Europe was closed in 2002, demolished and replaced with a shopping mall. But I *do* expect them to react to such reports in less than one year.
 
Since iOS 7 I've been having an issue where an entire grid area of the map disappears at a certain zoom level. Even after restoring it's come back. Seems like some sort of caching issue, but there's no way to clear the cache of an iOS app. :( Come on 7.0.1!
 
g-7 said:
That's exactly the point. They need to get more of their staff to work on the reports, if they're unable to handle them now. Maybe when they get even more reports after releasing Mavericks, they'll see something is really wrong with the way they handle it.

I don't expect them to *know* that a certain factory in Europe was closed in 2002, demolished and replaced with a shopping mall. But I *do* expect them to react to such reports in less than one year.
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I think the problem is that some of you think that the reporting function as issued with iOS 6 is the only thing they are using to make the corrections...if they are even using it at all.

After what happened with the release last year, I imagine they would look at a route that involved spending more money up front for a partnership or an outside verification firm that already has access to that information.

They are probably already making and/or verifying the submissions so that when updated, they are INCREDIBLY vetted and correct.

Google maps has a TON of errors, but because they are way more right than wrong, everyone thinks they are near perfect. Apple can't afford to have any more mistakes than Google or they'll be seen as a complete failure. I don't blame them for taking a little more time to make sure the next data update pushed out is impactful from both a sheer size and correctness.

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pittpanthersfan said:
Is one able to set navigation avoidances (toll roads, main roads, etc.)?
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No avoidances, but the routes submitted do offer alternatives to the ones you listed...it will say "This route includes tolls" so you can pick one of the alternate routes shown.
 
When Apple Maps was released last year, my friend and I went all around my town adding and editing businesses and POIs, moving inaccurately placed pins, and snapping photos for Yelp.

So what's changed in the last year from all this effort? Nothing. Pins that we've moved 50 times are still in their incorrect location. My town's new swimming pool is still not on the map despite us adding it multiple times. Even an old lake that no longer exists is still marked on the map.

My friend and I could have completely mapped the whole town, but we gave up because none of our edits ever made it to the map.
 
Maps is generally fine for me, though I did use iOS 7 maps to get me to a meeting, and the location was on the right (east) side of a road...if you continued further to the east, you hit the interstate (the back of the meeting location's property bordered the interstate.)

Maps told me to go North on I-71, get off an the exit...then get back on I-71 South (I thought this was odd, but was curious since I had time)...it then told me to "Prepare to park near I-71S." It just wanted me to park on the highway and walk on the back of the property, even though the address was clearly on the street to the west of the interstate.
 
MozMan68 said:
After what happened with the release last year, I imagine they would look at a route that involved spending more money up front for a partnership or an outside verification firm that already has access to that information.

They are probably already making and/or verifying the submissions so that when updated, they are INCREDIBLY vetted and correct.
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The only change Apple has made in response to any of my corrections they got completely wrong - they changed a town hall from a nightclub into a kebab shop (neither the nightclub or town hall have existed since before the first iPhone was released).

So no.
 
jacg said:
It used to look stunning where I live in a mountainous part of Scotland. You could make sweeping passes round the mountain tops, plan routes, etc. The usefulness of the feature has been spoiled, and you can be sure that rural Scotland won't get flyover quickly.
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That's a shame. The 3D view looks great in the mountains on the old Maps. Note to Apple: not everybody spends all their time in cities!
 
The Phazer said:
The only change Apple has made in response to any of my corrections they got completely wrong - they changed a town hall from a nightclub into a kebab shop (neither the nightclub or town hall have existed since before the first iPhone was released).

So no.
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No one is saying certain updates haven't happened, but the inclusion of some while the complete disregard of others may not necessarily mean that they are doing them based on when they were submitted, or how many times the corrections have been sent....all signs from both outside partnerships and company purchases as well as internal job postings point to a much bigger update beyond the ones that have trickled through in the past year.
 
MozMan68 said:
No one is saying certain updates haven't happened, but the inclusion of some while the complete disregard of others may not necessarily mean that they are doing them based on when they were submitted, or how many times the corrections have been sent....all signs from both outside partnerships and company purchases as well as internal job postings point to a much bigger update beyond the ones that have trickled through in the past year.
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Or the simpler explanation is that they have thrown a couple of people in each country and they are totally, totally overwhelmed as it really requires a far better base and thousands of full time staff, because nobody at Apple is going to spend any money sorting this **** out.

You claimed that they were being slow at doing corrections because they wanted to make sure they were correct - the ****** reliability of corrections made in the UK (which are of just as low a quality as the existing work when it launched) put a lie to that assertion.
 
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