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I think they should have designed this to be primarily landscape. So in the landscape orientation, have the home button on the bottom.
I have been racking my brains trying to remember who it was that said of a tablet 'if you see a pencil/stylus they failed'. Oh gosh I remember now, it was the former CEO of Apple - Steve Jobs.
Apple really should be getting a whole bunch of traffic tickets for the amount of U-turns they have done of late.
Its really not a device that you want to be carrying around DisneyWorld snapping pictures (though I say that for the regular iPad, yet that's what we see).
As for the trackpad, agreed, its missing that and decreases the actual usefulness imo
lol...what! It isn't and never will be a laptop replacement until it becomes more like the Surface.
A lot of people don't need a laptop. It's amazing how much good android and ios apps have come along. I love my surface pro 3 and yes it can do a lot but I have desktop that's more powerful. The main reason I bought one in for note taking and drawing. iOS has a TON of drawing and note taking apps. Plus the apps are better optimized for touch displays. It's very limited on Windows. The heat and noise that the Surface Pro 3 produces is also a drawback.
I'll be selling my Surface Pro 3 and ipad mini 2 LTE. Just need to figure out which iPad pro is right for me.
I'll be selling my Surface Pro 3 and ipad mini 2 LTE. Just need to figure out which iPad pro is right for me.
I'm deffo getting an iPad Pro. Will be used entirely as an entertainment device at work and around the house, I'll never use the pencil etc.
Will still use my rMBP/2012 Mac Mini for productivity, that's not going to change, but for my personal usage of an iPad bigger is most certainly better - checks all boxes regarding weight, cellular connection and fitting easily into my work bag. The keyboard will be a nice addition, if not exactly essential for my usage.
If rumours of 4gb ram are true, wow, for my usage it will absolutely fly. My Air 2 smokes every iOS device before it by a huge margin, so I'd hope the Pro will be an absolute beast in terms of running iOS.
Will still use my rMBP/2012 Mac Mini for productivity, that's not going to change, but for my personal usage of an iPad bigger is most certainly better - checks all boxes regarding weight, cellular connection and fitting easily into my work bag. The keyboard will be a nice addition, if not exactly essential for my usage.
If rumours of 4gb ram are true, wow, for my usage it will absolutely fly. My Air 2 smokes every iOS device before it by a huge margin, so I'd hope the Pro will be an absolute beast in terms of running iOS.
My Air is already a laptop replacement. For personal use. I have an iMac for heavy lifting that I use, and when I'm not at home, I do NOT want to be doing heavy work. It is better for my way of living, personally. If I need a laptop for work, work will provide, but I'm basically done being a heavy laptop user. And my job is software. Go figure.
So the iPad Pro to me is more about filling the gaps the Air has left open. I love handwritten notes and sketches, and the Air isn't great for this. The larger screen does open up possibilities with the split screen mode that I can use right now, today. The keyboard I'm not sold on, but the third parties will also provide (as Logitech already shows). I can also keep using my Microsoft BT keyboard that I've been using with the Air in the mean time.
I would buy for sure if it will run Office...the demo yesterday from Microsoft did not show enough details to be meaningful.
I'm surprised they didn't have some way of attaching the Apple Pencil to either the case or the iPad Pro. I'd hate to lose that thing I imagine other case manufacturers will have Pencil holder but I'm still surprised Apple didn't do this first.
I imagine other case manufacturers will have Pencil holder but I'm still surprised Apple didn't do this first.
I understand not doing heavy lifting in your personal life, but hear me out. I'm the same way. When I get off work, I don't do anything but browse the web and other minor things. I have an Air 2 and there still are times I just need more. I went and bought the 12" Macbook. That thing changed the way I work. I got a slim bag that carries just the laptop/charger and a slit for my ipad if I need to take it. I carry it everywhere I would take my iPad.
For the $12**.** you'll pay for the iPad Pro with accessories, I can't see why anyone wouldn't buy the 12" Macbook that gives you far more feature wise. Plus it's probably lighter to carry. Just my .02
The issue is that iOS is not a desktop operating system, as opposed to Windows 10. You don't have a file system. You cannot attach a file to an email (iOS 9 improves on this slightly, but only if you use iCloud). You cannot have multiple documents open in in MS Word. Many professional programs don't run on iOS. Etc. Etc. Now if it ran iOS+OS X that would be a killer. Wait, that's Windows 10.
I live in the Apple universe, but I'm tempted by MS Surface. And the iPad Pro does not change that.
Unless you're a graphic designer, I don't see any point to this device. I will say the pen looks amazing and was EXACTLY what I want with an iPad Air, hopefully the iPad Air 3. But that would mean new screen tech and it would kind of render the iPad Pro unless
It will be very interesting to see the sales on this, I just can't imagine it being high
It will be very interesting to see the sales on this, I just can't imagine it being high
Yeah, the 12" MacBook is also interesting. But you are ignoring the use-cases that are different between the two, while minimizing the price difference to create a particular comparison. But it doesn't help the MacBook that it is 30% heavier than the iPad Pro with a smaller screen. It doesn't help that I have use cases suited very well to the iPad Pro + Pencil + Splitscreen, but because of the lack of touch, not so well to the MacBook. It's hard to curl up with a MacBook and just sketch ideas I've got to visualize things (something I kinda-sorta get away with on the Air now).
Honestly, there are a couple mis-steps that I think Apple did make: I'd love a 64GB version priced between the 32/128, or even better, just replace the 32 with the 64. The Pencil, while it was the stylus I've been craving for years on an iPad, is still priced high. ~30$ cheaper and I wouldn't be grumbling about it.
But at the end of the day, while these two devices are getting similar in terms of pricing, the use-case is still quite different. Some flows will favor the iPad Pro, some will favor the MacBook. And that's perfectly fine.
... Or anything else that supports document storage extensions that were added in iOS 8. Like DropBox, OneDrive, Readdle Documents, Transmit (one of my favorites once it fixes a couple iOS 9 bugs with the action extension to grab files straight from Safari), etc.
I wouldn't expect sales to be gangbusters on this either, but there is a market.
I'm not part of the Apple Defense Force, but that was clearly in reference to the use of a stylus for general usage ie making phone calls, browsing, messages etc. Namely, the experience one had on Windows mobile phones with resistive touch screens at the time.
Anyone with half a brain realised he wasn't referring to the use of a stylus for intricate/design work on a Wacom or equivalent, at which a stylus is objectively better than a finger.
I had a HTC TyTyn, Jobs was absolutely right. You used the stylus for everything, was an absolute pita.
The "who would watch video on an iPod?" is a better example of a u-turn, but even then I think do people not realise that marketing guys and companies will say literally ANYTHING to justify their current product? They aren't there to make friends or speak the truth.
Example;
"the only thing that has changed is everything"....
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True. When I had my iPad I could not get used to drawing with my finger. I needed a stylus.
I think Apple also solved the palm issue with this iPad. Most artists rest their palm on the surface when drawing/painting, but my iPad could only manage one contact point, not two. I couldn't get used to drawing without resting my palm on the surface occasionally. From the brief video images at the event, I saw an image of an artist using the stylus while resting his palm on the surface. That's a big step in functionality.
Not sure if this was actually solved in earlier models (I suspect not, but I stopped buying them after iPad3) but with the Apple Pencil, it looks like Apple has a solution to this issue. That's great. I'm still not buying one, but if I'm correct, it will be much more useful to those who do buy it.
I see a niche for it, but I was just reading another thread and the idea of writing with a pencil is very attractive to me. Now that I've cast my iPhone aside and am writing by hand again, I really enjoy that experience. It may sound silly but I am beginning to see this may very well be the iPad I've always wanted. I have had issues with the smaller screens (yes partially me and partially resolution / color gamut.)
It is a little expensive (but the phones are even more so and a tricked out iPad Air 2 is only a little cheaper), but that extra screen real estate, much better speakers and simplicity in use might be the commute / school companion I'd like. Certainly would be a great way to "read" papers, textbooks and magazines and novels.
I am definitely not a two computer person and while I love the rMB, the iPad Pro and a desktop are quite possibly the way to go for me. This is one first gen device I can see myself giving a go.
And by the time it comes out I may have a couple of Apple gift cards to help ease the price points just a little bit.
It is a little expensive (but the phones are even more so and a tricked out iPad Air 2 is only a little cheaper), but that extra screen real estate, much better speakers and simplicity in use might be the commute / school companion I'd like. Certainly would be a great way to "read" papers, textbooks and magazines and novels.
I am definitely not a two computer person and while I love the rMB, the iPad Pro and a desktop are quite possibly the way to go for me. This is one first gen device I can see myself giving a go.
And by the time it comes out I may have a couple of Apple gift cards to help ease the price points just a little bit.
Does anyone know if that app that showed planet Jupiter is a real app? Is it in the app store now?
Fine...you wouldn't buy the pro.
I will not buy a 12" macbook. Period.
I will likely buy a Pro.
What's so hard to understand?!
I will not buy a 12" macbook. Period.
I will likely buy a Pro.
What's so hard to understand?!
Oh do me a favour, Apple are doing so much back tracking it's almost comicle. Why do you feel the need to apologise for them, it's excruciatingly embarrassing.
Apologise for them? Are you kidding? Jobs was clearly referring to the stylus being a fail as a general input device, and how incredibly inconvenient using one is, every single time you want to use your phone. He was absolutely correct.
There's a particular role for a stylus. Drawing with your finger is ****, for example, and a stylus was objectively better at that 10 years ago, never mind now. Jobs wasn't for a moment critiquing the stylus for such purposes, he was talking about using a stylus to access all the general functions of a smartphone. I question someone's powers of deduction if they don't realise this.
The Apple pencil is absolutely nothing new, a variation (and lesser quality than a Cintiq until I hear exact spec re: levels of pressure) on tech that's been around for ages. It's not intended for general usage, for which capacitive touch is better than adequate and a million times better than using a resistive touch screen and a stylus.
Just a casual reminder..... I would hope your thought it for personal use. For schools far too many have learned the folly / difficulty of iPads in the school. (Google LAUSD+iPad for latest mess)