At the end of the day they have simply done another copying job - this time it's the Surface Pro though at a much higher price with a poorer spec than the MS offering.
When are they going to come up with a product they can truly claim as their own?
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At the end of the day they have simply done another copying job - this time it's the Surface Pro though at a much higher price with a poorer spec than the MS offering.
When are they going to come up with a product they can truly claim as their own?
What I don't get is Apple niching itself like this. This is an iOS version of the Surface RT writ large. And damn expensive too.
The main issues with a tablet such as the iPad is where does it fit in? Is it a media consumption device? Is it a productivity machine? Is it a content creation piece of equipment? Is it a gaming device? Do people understand what each of these categories means and the spectrum it lays on when meeting people's needs also follows on from these questions as people's expectations of what they want from technology vary greatly as shown in these threads. i have not come across hardware and software on a laptop/tablet/desktop that meets fully all the needs these categories generate. It in the end comes down to personal preference in what meets the needs you want from a device. The iPad pro is something which will meet my meds and I will definitely be buying it over the retina macbook. It ain't perfect by a long shot as would have liked a USB C instead of a lightening connector and the keyboard looks bit limited for its price. But the large screen format , better speakers, better hardware, what developers will do with app development, is something I am looking forward to. If I need some extra juice will look to mac mini and accessing this through a VNC like Screens.
And the first time you into a major issue, call Apple CS or the local Genius you will get to hear those famous words "please connect it to iTunes ..."
Why is cellular support only available for the top end storage model? That's kind of lame....????
Unless I missed something? I'm somewhat intrigued by this iPad pro. But I MUST have cell data support.
Unless I missed something? I'm somewhat intrigued by this iPad pro. But I MUST have cell data support.
I'm a graphic designer and I'm not sold on the iPad Pro yet. It needs to run full versions of Adobe software for me to justify the $900 cost with the pencil. I also think it needs Finder for file management. Right now I see it as a glorified sketchbook with a huge price tag.
Bingo. Nailed it.
iOS is going to hamper this device ever being more than a glorified whiteboard.
Exactly. iOS just isn't a pro operating system. A real Pro tablet would need OS X.
I'm happy with my Air2 so I'm not in a rush to upgrade. I'll wait to see what everyone makes of it after release. Unlike a lot of Apple products, iPad price drops tend to pop up fairly quickly on sites like Amazon, and my Air 2's resale value will remain higher due to it not being refreshed this cycle. $899 for the 128GB model would be a decent buy.
Looking forward to seeing what apps get developed for the Pro. I don't know if Adobe will develop full versions of their CC apps, but I do expect they'll come out with some iPad Pro exclusives.
Looking forward to seeing what apps get developed for the Pro. I don't know if Adobe will develop full versions of their CC apps, but I do expect they'll come out with some iPad Pro exclusives.
It is a shame, apple did not include or support a trackpad on their smart key cover., because the software on screen keyboard does support a trackpad function in iOS 9. It would have made it much easier in typing documents etc.
Perhaps in the near future?
Perhaps in the near future?
You were being subsidised before; Apple makes a lot less on the 16GB devices, as the actual cost of storage is pretty low. I mean, they're making loads of money on each device, but the idea of "deserving a discount" and "[having] to pay for storage I don't need" is just silly. All the prices are well into the profit territory, and the factor cost discount you're "owed" is de minimis as best.
Lol honestly I was just joking. Every time there is a thread about wanting to increase the iPhone base storage a bunch of people chime in that 16 GB is enough for most people and they shouldn't have to pay the upcharge for more storage. I'm glad Apple got rid of the 16 GB iPad. I returned my 16 GB iPad Air for a 32 GB iPad Air and that was a very smart decision.
I am not buying the iPad Pro.
I don't know about you, but the iPad Pro doesn't seem to make a lot of sense for me. It looks like a somewhat desperate attempt from Apple to regain momentum in sales.
With the iPad Pro, Apple is compromising without compromising at the same time.
The iPad Pro is not small and light as it siblings. It has a keyboard and a stylus. Come on. Steve Jobs hated styluses. And Tim Cook despised convertibles. But here they are.
It looks good, but I don't think it can replace a laptop. It is expensive, costs as much as a laptop. But the operating system is very limited, and it doesn't have a file system. The apps are still limited. There is Office, of course, but it is a very limited version of Office. And it lacks a pointing device. The stylus may be great, but it doesn't replace a trackpad.
The iPad Pro may be even faster than a regular laptop. But it is certainly as expensive as a top-notch Windows laptop or a MacBook. The cheapest an iPad Pro with a keyboard can go is US$ 968 and this is with 32 GB. Even a Surface Pro 3 with a keyboard (and 64 GB of storage) is cheaper. And a Dell XPS 13 is cheaper.
The only reason why the iPad Pro could be a success is because Apple reached cult status and everything it touches turns into gold. But the iPad Pro is a hard sell.
And it is funny to see how all these people that said the Surface was something ridiculous are embracing the iPad Pro as it was a wonder of nature.
While mom has protested loudly against and I have a shaky history with iPads (when they were consumption devices), I am wiling to give this a go.
Better speakers, screen, split screen, pencil and a keyboard cover that reminds me of the rMB? Great.
I was working through Khan Academy's math levels I am always scrambling to find paper and a pen to work through the problems. Now I could potentially work out the problems and watch the video on the same screen. As a study aid, this is tremendously helpful.
I also like to mark up documents I receive in classes and the ability to do this onscreen without printing out is good.
As I think about this I am seeing a big benefit to the iPad Pro and the Pencil as a study aid and my being productive with homework during my commute, work breaks and at home.
There were some excellent arguments against in the Macbook forum, but the more I think about this, the more I am leaning toward an iPad Pro.
Better speakers, screen, split screen, pencil and a keyboard cover that reminds me of the rMB? Great.
I was working through Khan Academy's math levels I am always scrambling to find paper and a pen to work through the problems. Now I could potentially work out the problems and watch the video on the same screen. As a study aid, this is tremendously helpful.
I also like to mark up documents I receive in classes and the ability to do this onscreen without printing out is good.
As I think about this I am seeing a big benefit to the iPad Pro and the Pencil as a study aid and my being productive with homework during my commute, work breaks and at home.
There were some excellent arguments against in the Macbook forum, but the more I think about this, the more I am leaning toward an iPad Pro.
Agree and not sure there will be a future for an iPad kb trackpad. It takes far less effort to use a MBP trackpad than it is to prop up an iPad and use a pen or finger to do the most basic of steps.
I'd rather trackpad than use a touch display at a weary 3am
Yup.
Tablets will never surpass the PC until they become easier to use than a Mac trackpad—far less energy to do the same tasks
You ever find out what that app is? Would love to try it on my iPad to see if it's as nice as it seems.
I am thinking about getting the pro. I have the iPad 3, and was planning on upgrading. It still works fine, but is a little slower and starting to crash more often. I also have a surface pro which I use mainly at work. It's ok, but what I hate about it is the constant updates. I don't play any games on it, mainly use office products, and take notes. Can't explain it, but I really don't like surfing on the Internet with it as much as my iPad 3. I don't carry my iPad around with me, it stays home. I'm constantly on it when I'm home. If I get the iPad pro, I don't think I will get the keyboard, probably just the pencil. I don't use the keyboard with my old iPad , and I have a couple. I like it better without.
I have no problem with the price, I would buy it just for the larger screen, faster processor, more pixels, and more ram. The pencil is a bonus. I wager many will buy the pro just for the larger screen, it will be great for reading and browsing.