The Love & The Hate

With respect, the 2016 MacBook Pro is not designed or adequate for high-end professional use. For some professional applications it will prove suitable (despite many questionable limitations), but certainly not others, with those customers simply abandoned.

Moreover anyone with a love of all Macintosh should be more than concerned, as the advent of the 2016 MBP marked a public sea change from Apple. It is an open secret now that the Macintosh is viewed by Apple as a legacy product, with what remnants of it they decide to retain incorporated into the iOS sphere. The 2016 MBP is an iOS hybrid, the hardware a blend between that existing and the iWatch; the software no less so, with Sierra a mixture of that formally OSX and iOS. As far as this goes it is only the beginning. Apple has disbanded the OSX software team, melding them into the iOS software effort, which takes precedence.

As others, I can speak to the 2016 MBP, even though purposefully not having bought one. With reason. Chances are more than a few others in this same boat know quite a bit more about the 2016 MBP than the actual owners at this point, as quite concerned about Apple's present direction and having studied it closely.

This is nothing to be sanguine about.

 

Do you have proof that most of the negative comments are from non owners?

If not then this is just another bait thread that will get shut down..

 

I'm fortunate enough to have both a desktop and laptop so I don't need the laptops be be uber powerful, I need them to be uber portable.
So for me, and I've mentioned it before, these laptops are probably one of if not the best laptop I could get for me.
I like the tech, I don't mind or care much if I need a dongle, I like how it looks.

I would so buy something else in a second if I had any doubts the MacBook wasn't for me. I just don't understand buying something and keeping it to complain about it. That's a complete waste of time, finances and the frustration of having to deal with something you don't like which then leads to going onto a website and typing a rant about how much you don't like it. How much time is this thing eating up of your time when you think about it?

I'm also aware there are folks that live and work off of a laptop but again. Don't buy a machine wanting it to be what it isn't. Go find something else.

 

It's not always that easy for some... Some have a lot of money sunk into Mac apps and programs and some have other reasons like continuity and handoff.. I am sure there are more reasons to stick with Mac even if unhappy with the current release but those are a few that popped into my head.

I like Apple products and I like Mac. Does that mean I walk around with blinders on? Sorry, but no.... The new machines are fine but some do have very valid complaints and discarding them as haters is flat out wrong.. You might be surprised to find that many of the complainers and so called haters are actually long time Apple and Mac fans...

 

Every owner must therefore only post positive comments, common sense eh.... I'm an owner who has posted both negative and positive, but to be honest my positive comments gets ignored and I just get labled as a hater. When you enter MR leave objectivity at the door and be prepared to be labled with us or against us you know how it rolls.

my favourite part as you replied to is making up stats.....it's all baseless.

The new Mac book pro is a product that has divided the MR community, so without making up stats, it's not a perfect profuct like some make it out to be .

 

I've read most of your threads before they are shut down... Anyways, people can sometimes decide the machine is not for them even before they buy it. Are they haters? Nope.... Maybe, just maybe they are hardcore Mac fans who are disappointed with the new machines and have a right to voice their displeasure..

Also there are plenty of us who have the machines BUT still have complaints. Am I a hater? Maybe in your mind because I don't constantly heap praise on it but I do have one so your theory is out the window..

If you only want positive comments then a online forum might not be the best place to be...

 

An opinion on an Apple product, on an Apple fan site , does not require ownership to be valid.

Your analysis would only be valid if you could prove that the negative posters are non apple fans and therefore trolls. If an apple fan is posting negative feed back on the MacBook Pro and not buying it, that is valid criticism.

 

My complaints with the new machines are minor..

1. TB was a gimmick for my needs and glitched out often. It was returned for a nTB
2. TB version is way, way, way overpriced
3. Dongles... I don't mind USB C but Apple could have phased it in by leaving one USB A and the SD card slot for now
4. Apple and it's obsession with thin came at the expense of battery life

Those are my gripes. I dig the new KB and I dig the new large trackpad. The screen rocks and the SSD is blazing fast.. It's a fine computer but to be honest, for the price, I'd expect more..

Everything with the Apple logo and name come with a higher than average price (the Apple tax) and I am fine with that for the most part. Heck I have an Apple Watch and AirPods that I also think are slightly overpriced.

Just because people have complaints does not make them a hater or a troll... Some are long time Apple fans. Heck I am probably one of the few with a @mac.com email address..

 

Can someone please kill this thread!

 

i used to work for Top Gear , and don't agree the drivers are the best source of info about a product....if any thing they are the most biased.

By definition a huge fan of a badge lacks credibility , due to thier biased opinion and lack of objectivity.

I'll leave you with this, you can ask car fans how reliable thier cars are, and you will get uninformed opinions, go ask the local tow truck driver and he will give you an honest opinion based on experience from day to day work

 

There was another thread where people were trying to come up with examples of "professional" work that the machines couldn't excel at, and the only examples anyone could imagine were:

- devs testing heavy sites simultaneously on 3+ virtual operating systems each with 3+ browsers going at once
- hollywood-level 3d post-production studio work
- graphics development on witcher-equivalent 3d games

So, basically, about 1000 people on planet earth. People who definitely work on desktop systems.

Every time someone like you comes along and makes this wild and ridiculous claim, they then proceed to have zero examples of a task the machines cannot complete, and it generally turns out they were actually just interested in framerates on first person shooters.

 

How lovely it must be to sit on a high horse and assume some don't have thousands of dollars in software investments that equal or exceed the cost of a laptop. 'Don't buy it' isn't really an option for some, at least not without even more disruption.

 

Imagine if the MacBook Pro came out a couple years ago. It would be the best thing since sliced bread™. I think it's probably the best laptop I've ever owned. Every time I pick it up I am amazed by how light and thin it is. 5 years ago I was using a 2011 13" MacBook Pro that weighed more than the 15" Im using today with a footprint that's only slightly larger. It's quieter and runs cooler too. Speakers are awesome (for a laptop). My only complaint is that yes it did cost quite a bit of money. Next year, or the year after that the cost will come down like it did for the first retina MacBook.

 

Does a person buy a Ferrari cause it has good mileage, is reliable, comfortable and easily maintained , and knows how to drive it to its potential or do they buy it as a status symbol? Very very very small percentage of Ferrari drivers can use thier cars close to the potential . Yes forums sometimes have too much in common. And the most vocal don't tend to be the ones that know how to drive , it's the ones that want to impress ....anyway have a good evening.

 

The people with the most complains will probably not buy it, that's not so strange...

Also I think this throwing around the term "pro user" just confuses the whole discussion about Apples lineup. A hobbyist can have higher demands for ram and cpu than a pro romance writer.

 

totally agree. If you need more power, get a desktop. If the MBP is not powerful enough for you then go elsewhere.

it is obvious that these new notebooks are for portability and not power. But that is what they are for isn't it.

In addition it is quite easy for me to max out the usage on a new MBP. But I will choose a desktop to do that type of work on, and keep the laptop for my portable requirements [which it was designed for]. I don't expect either to excel in tasks they were not designed for [lugging an Mac Pro & screen / iMac a around or expecting a laptop to render a scene quickly without fans blasting].

right tool for the right task. it is expensive I admit but works very well.