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You are either completely full of it or have wayyyy too much time and money on your hands. For your sake, I hope you're full of it because you can't possibly have enough time to use all of these gadgets and have anything resembling a social life.

sounds like he has some sort of studio going on *cough*
 
You are either completely full of it or have wayyyy too much time and money on your hands. For your sake, I hope you're full of it because you can't possibly have enough time to use all of these gadgets and have anything resembling a social life.

Perhaps I have a multimedia production business??? You do know that some people run businesses right?
 
Im an Apple fan like the rest of you and TBF, if I had 1500 quid to burn I would probably buy one. As of now, I don't. I'm not saying that it's overpriced or how I hate it's under powered performance, it's just not right for me. Now, if you could squeeze the MB in a year or two down to that size I'd be right in there ;)
 
No what everyone is mad is that apple produces crap and sells it at premium. Right like im going to buy a 1.6ghz core 2 duo for 2 grand, no cd drvie, no gpu, soldered ram. Do you think im retarted? Honestly, being serious I showed this to the distrcit attorney and he could not stop laughing. Any person who is educated know this is directed towards mac fans and idiots.

OK, so explain how Bababasjd can say "Apple produces crap" and my posts get edited for complaining he can't spell "retarted"?
Unless he means he's recently been given a makeover as a ladyboy?
 
@Slip... I'd be there too

But if Apple ever puts an optical drive into an MBA sized laptop, it will lose some of its appeal. The wireless capabilities more than compensate for the lack of an optical drive - to me, it makes the MBA worth buying.

I'd like to see Apple remove the optical drive from their entire line of portables
 
Personally, I think the OP is miles away on their assertions. The MBA is not about "bling" or being a status symbol and to say people who don't like it are jealous because they can't afford it is disingenuous and, frankly, distasteful: You can't measure the worth of a person by the size of their bank account (or the thinness of their laptop).
The MBA fits a particular niche in the market for an ultra-portable, ultra-light notebook and for the people who want that type of computer it's a good (maybe not perfect) match and definitely the best match in Apple's line-up (which is the killer: I don't care about Windows laptops: I'm only interested in Apple's kit). I know this because I fit in that niche: I have a powerful Mac Pro for my workhorse and need a small, light notebook for visits to client sites, etc. I'm currently using a MacBook Pro and find it a bit on the large side so this is absolutely perfect for me. Would I get one as my only computer? No way! Would I get one if I had to do heavyweight work on it in the field? No way!
Is it an absolutely perfect tool for writing up reports on the train and doing Keynote Presentations to corporate types? You Betcha!
I'm also in the fortunate position of owning my own company. This mean I get the VAT (sales tax) back and can write off the cost against my corporation tax, bringing the true cost to me down quite a bit. This means I can afford and justify the SSD version with it's associated performance benefits to counteract the slowish processor.
Does this make me a better person than someone who either doesn't want one or can't afford one? Does it hell. It just makes me someone who this computer is targeted at!
 
@Slip... I'd be there too

But if Apple ever puts an optical drive into an MBA sized laptop, it will lose some of its appeal. The wireless capabilities more than compensate for the lack of an optical drive - to me, it makes the MBA worth buying.

I'd like to see Apple remove the optical drive from their entire line of portables

Um, NO. Some of us will always need the optical drive. some of us won't.
We all have different needs. You can't please all of the people, all of the time.
Choice is all.
 
Personally, I think the OP is miles away on their assertions. The MBA is not about "bling" or being a status symbol and to say people who don't like it are jealous because they can't afford it is disingenuous and, frankly, distasteful: You can't measure the worth of a person by the size of their bank account (or the thinness of their laptop).
The MBA fits a particular niche in the market for an ultra-portable, ultra-light notebook and for the people who want that type of computer it's a good (maybe not perfect) match and definitely the best match in Apple's line-up. I know because I fit in that niche: I have a powerful Mac Pro for my workhorse and need a small, light notebook for visits to client sites, etc. I'm currently using a MacBook Pro and find it a bit on the large side so this is absolutely perfect for me. Would I get one as my only computer? No way! Would I get one if I had to do heavyweight work on it in the field? No way!
Is it an absolutely perfect tool for writing up reports on the train and doing Keynote Presentations to corporate types? You Betcha!
I'm also in the fortunate position of owning my own company so I get the VAT (sales tax) back and can write off the cost against my corporation tax, so the true price comes down quite a bit, to the extent I can afford the SSD version with it's associated performance benefits to counteract the slowish processor.
Does this make me a better person than someone who either doesn't want one or can't afford one? Does it hell. It just makes me someone who this computer is targeted at!

in some twisted way, you just disagreed and then agreed with everything i said...

glad to see you understand my pov
 
Um, NO. Some of us will always need the optical drive. some of us won't.
We all have different needs. You can't please all of the people, all of the time.
Choice is all.

yes, its just my opinion though

i'm caught up with appearance and i like how the superdrive looks... seperate from the MBA. it also makes the MBA simpler

and i was also under the assumption that everyone would have an mba as well as a desktop machine that would serve as the optical drive via wireless capabilites
 
yes, its just my opinion though

i'm caught up with appearance and i like how the superdrive looks... seperate from the MBA. it also makes the MBA simpler

and i was also under the assumption that everyone would have an mba as well as a desktop machine that would serve as the optical drive via wireless capabilites

It does make the MBA simpler but the higher end laptops will need it for a while I think, plus not everyone can afford the desktop and the MBA so a big laptop has to do for both.
Well, for me anyway. Unless they replace it with something really amazing and at the moment the higher end laptops are a bit behind.

The MBA looks fantastic though and I think it's the way forward.
Signing off for tonight, it's late here.
 
I'm not poor by any stretch of the imagination.

It just doesn't represent value to me.



Edit: And some of the features would annoy me given the price of it. Lower the price and I could forgive the limitations, but at that price its defects tend to come to the fore.

Pardon my french but you're fulla B.S. Apple could price the Air at almost free and you would whine. It's never the price or the features or the lack thereof. People love drama, praise is just too hard, if any other company made the Air then you would complain that Apple should've thought of it.

Wha wha wha, Apple doesn't care about their customers, they should've made the Air and not such and such a company. That's what this thread is about, you guys never stop creating misery.
 
I wouldn't say poor so much as frugal. I want the most bang for my buck and this product has merit to some however for me it is MBP all the way.
 
Pardon my french but you're fulla B.S. Apple could price the Air at almost free and you would whine. It's never the price or the features or the lack thereof. People love drama, praise is just too hard, if any other company made the Air then you would complain that Apple should've thought of it.

Wha wha wha, Apple doesn't care about their customers, they should've made the Air and not such and such a company. That's what this thread is about, you guys never stop creating misery.

Don't try to predict what I'd do.

I like the MBA, but wouldn't pay that much for it in view of the drawbacks it has. I would pay less - about 1,200-1,300 would be a decent price for me.


PS where am I whining?
 
No what everyone is mad is that apple produces crap and sells it at premium. Right like im going to buy a 1.6ghz core 2 duo for 2 grand, no cd drvie, no gpu, soldered ram. Do you think im retarted? Honestly, being serious I showed this to the distrcit attorney and he could not stop laughing. Any person who is educated know this is directed towards mac fans and idiots.

On another thread i read a post by a macrumors member saying
that 4 executives from teh company he work for ditched their current laptops and ordered the macbook air.

Tht goes to show you that no matter how educated or succesful you are
when your stupid your stupid....Unfortunetaly when i see a person owning this laptop my first reaction will be....

so you paid 2k + for a 1.6,mono sound, 1 usb thin computer? Or worst yet 3k for a 1.8, 64gb ssd,1 usb mono sound computer?

Just naming what this computer will offer makes me feel stupid saying it in 2008.

I dont think im poor....my 08 mazda cx9 and bmw eat well never on empty.
 
Um, NO. Some of us will always need the optical drive. some of us won't.
We all have different needs. You can't please all of the people, all of the time.
Choice is all.

I ordered my first ever Mac computer. I purchased a Macbook -white- with a 250Gb HD, the superdrive, and 1Gb RAM (already have 4Gb from NewEgg). I asked myself if I should wait for the keynote, and decided to just buy the thing two days before Job's address. I took the chance that there'd be something I didn't need... and out came the MacBook Air.

It's not here yet, as it's in the dreaded "Int'l Shipment Release", but I'm still stoked! I just can't afford the MBA, and I really do need an optical drive internally. It's just for schoolwork, and an excuse to get a mac. I think I'm in love.
 
Tht goes to show you that no matter how educated or succesful you are
when your stupid your stupid....Unfortunetaly when i see a person owning this laptop my first reaction will be....

so you paid 2k + for a 1.6,mono sound, 1 usb thin computer? Or worst yet 3k for a 1.8, 64gb ssd,1 usb mono sound computer?

Just naming what this computer will offer makes me feel stupid saying it in 2008.

I dont think im poor....my 08 mazda cx9 and bmw eat well never on empty.

Wow, I'm glad you are not the computer police. Who are you to call someone stupid for their purchasing choices? You as well as the rest of us have spent money on something that someone else would have thought was stupid but it doesn't mean they have the right to voice it.
I'm saying this because there are people on this forum (myself excluded) that bought the Air and it fits their needs. There's no such thing as a stupid purchase.
I used to work at an electronics store and customers would buy VCR's for $150.00 U.S and buy the extended warranty that cost $200.00 U.S.
To some that's stupid because you could have bought 2 machines and kept one in the closet until the other one breaks but the customer doesn't see it that way, the extended warranty can offer an upgrade in the future.

Again, there's no such thing as a stupid purchase if it fits the needs of that consumer. Be fair.
 
Way to put an end to the "Mac users are snobby elitists" stereotypes, guys.
 
Way to put an end to the "Mac users are snobby elitists" stereotypes, guys.


Well I didn't mean to enforce that stereotype at all. I'm just trying to prove a point which is somewhat buried in a thread of arguments and poor English.
 
Perhaps I have a multimedia production business??? You do know that some people run businesses right?

so what you are saying is that you are willing to spend that kind of money on business expenses, but not willing to spend $1800 for the MBA for personal use. This is much more logical and understandable. However, you made it sound like you bought all that stuff for personal use but somehow just couldn't justify the MBA. That's why I was being a little critical.

I mean if we want to go by that logic, I certainly can afford a MBA since I spend about $40k a year on tuition and related expenses. You see how this is a little misleading? Business expenses and human capital investments (education) is much different than the amount we are willing to spend on consumer electronics.
 
I agree with you, continue complaining, but remember that you're really just mad about the price. Nothing else... and that is the point of this thread.

Price no.
To big yes.

Buy a macbook or macbook pro, who is going to bother with this toy. Does it come with iMovie, no fire wire to import/export ? It is a large (and true expensive) second computer.
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You need to see the MBA before you write about it.

I don't think many of the people writing here have actually seen or held the MBA. I have -- and I just ordered one. However negative you are (and I know it has its drawbacks,esp. the battery) the thing itself is so beautifully designed that you'll want one, and you'll want to work on it. It's a work of art and I think it has the most esthetic and pleasing design of any Apple product. The fact that you can actually do work on it is almost superfluous.
 
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