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Thanks for generalising...

I can afford a MBA no probs, but the screen bezel, mono speaker put me off it. Would it be that much to put a full sized headphone/line out port on it? I'd rather not use adapters. Not keen on that battery life either and I can't say I'm sold on the multitouch touchpad. 2 finger scrolling worked great but to trust something as inaccurate as that with rotations in iPhoto? Nah.

I don't even know if it would replace my PowerBook since I still need to burn CD's from time to time :eek:
 
I don't think many of the people writing here have actually seen or held the MBA. I have -- and I just ordered one. However negative you are (and I know it has its drawbacks,esp. the battery) the thing itself is so beautifully designed that you'll want one, and you'll want to work on it. It's a work of art and I think it has the most esthetic and pleasing design of any Apple product. The fact that you can actually do work on it is almost superfluous.

Do you buy a computer because it is a work of art or because it is functional? I believe the Air is functional, but far below what its price would suggest. Do you need to hold a computer to decide whether it is functional or not?
 
Yes bluelight, that's exactly it, people are complaining because they're poor.

Imagine with me for a moment...

What bluelight doesn't realize is that MacBook Air sales will be modest.

Then, in an effort to rejuvenate the Air brand Apple will lower the price and/or beef up it's hardware.

Years later, the MacBook Air will vanish mainly because they were found to be faulty and costly to fix. Apple releases MacBook and MacBook Pro models both sub-inch thickness (with optical drives). The MacBook Air begins to be referred to as Apple's MacBook Error.

But have fun! By all means. :)
 
Yes bluelight, that's exactly it, people are complaining because they're poor.

Imagine with me for a moment...

What bluelight doesn't realize is that MacBook Air sales will be modest.

Then, in an effort to rejuvenate the Air brand Apple will lower the price and/or beef up it's hardware.

Years later, the MacBook Air will vanish mainly because they were found to be faulty and costly to fix. Apple releases MacBook and MacBook Pro models both sub-inch thickness (with optical drives). The MacBook Air begins to be referred to as Apple's MacBook Error.

But have fun! By all means. :)

no, you are completely wrong. the macbook air is the new standard, everything new will be working up towards the appearance and design of the MBA. watch.
 
the thread starter is right. ppl want MBA size with MBP performance, its just not happening.
but it is quite expensive IMO

I don't think people necessarily want MBA with MBP performance, they just want MBA with $1800 performance/features. It is completely unreasonable to have MBP performance, but definitely they could have adjusted the price. As it is now, the looks are what keeps people from wanting to get something else. With MBP/MB the looks were there, but they also had the performance that kept people from wanting something else.

To me, it seems like the MBA charges above and beyond the usual premium you should expect to pay for an apple product.
 
Hmm... You just agreed with me. Now you're just getting out of control. :p

I meant this part:

Years later, the MacBook Air will vanish mainly because they were found to be faulty and costly to fix.

That is not going to happen ^ The MacBook Air will remain and other companies will look to it for inspiration.

You should know better than to think that I would contradict myself...
 
To be portable is to be easily or conveniently transported, so at 3 pounds, I would say that the MBA is pretty portable. You're right though, ultra takes it a bit too far.

But how many want an ultra portable? don't get me wrong, I'm no MacBook Air fan by any stretch of the imagination but lets look at the reality of the situation. People don't want necessarily some microscopic laptop, they want a laptop that is lighter than MacBook but isn't castrated to the same degree which the ultra portable laptops are. MacBook delivers on that.

With that being said, however, if the flash prices weren't so high it would be awesome if the default low end model included a 64G drive - it would really push it in terms of being competitive. The fact that the ultra portable still relies on a microscopic hard disk doesn't give me the wow factor.

With that being, I'm hoping that SSD will eventually come down in price; like I said to a mate, once 64G comes down to $300, I'll purchase it, but not a moment before.
 
The MacBook Air begins to be referred to as Apple's MacBook Error.

lol whats funny is when my coworker told me about the mac book air i thought he actaully said mac book "error" then when i told my dad he googled the same thing "mac book error"


and yes i can afford 2K worth of laptopness, however i would expect a LOT more for my money. i expect my laptop to return 2K worth of computing power not $300

the MBA is a joke, but dont stop buying them, i enjoy when people get ripped off by apple, i can laugh at you after when your holding your overpriced useless MBA and im holding my 3lbs 12" Asus with an optical drive, dual core 2.2GHz, 2GB ram, 8400GS video card 128MB, and 2 year warranty with free life time phone support. (dont need support unless its for RMA purposes)
 
lol whats funny is when my coworker told me about the mac book air i thought he actaully said mac book "error" then when i told my dad he googled the same thing "mac book error"


and yes i can afford 2K worth of laptopness, however i would expect a LOT more for my money. i expect my laptop to return 2K worth of computing power not $300

the MBA is a joke, but dont stop buying them, i enjoy when people get ripped off by apple, i can laugh at you after when your holding your overpriced useless MBA and im holding my 3lbs 12" Asus with an optical drive, dual core 2.2GHz, 2GB ram, 8400GS video card 128MB, and 2 year warranty with free life time phone support. (dont need support unless its for RMA purposes)

That sounds like a nice ASUS notebook - too bad Windows is loaded onto it, talk about a waste.
 
But how many want an ultra portable? don't get me wrong, I'm no MacBook Air fan by any stretch of the imagination but lets look at the reality of the situation. People don't want necessarily some microscopic laptop, they want a laptop that is lighter than MacBook but isn't castrated to the same degree which the ultra portable laptops are. MacBook delivers on that.

With that being said, however, if the flash prices weren't so high it would be awesome if the default low end model included a 64G drive - it would really push it in terms of being competitive. The fact that the ultra portable still relies on a microscopic hard disk doesn't give me the wow factor.

With that being, I'm hoping that SSD will eventually come down in price; like I said to a mate, once 64G comes down to $300, I'll purchase it, but not a moment before.

Live in the now!
 
That sounds like a nice ASUS notebook - too bad Windows is loaded onto it, talk about a waste.

vista business by default yes, but when you load ubuntu or dualboot any flavor of linux, it becomes kick ass again. personally i wont even let vista load for the first time, ill do a DBAN on the HDD before it can startup then install XP for games and ubuntu for regular surfing, etc. (DBAN = deriks boot and nuke, HDD eraser basically)

also that Asus notebook i mentioned is only $1100 for the Turion and ~$1250 for the core 2 duo, the turion is only SLIGHTLY slower but it makes more heat.
 
Alright, well these are my initial thoughts before reading every single post. The macbook air is a cool machine. Its really thin and yes you can even use an envelop as a carrying case. But to even really turn it into the computer it was meant to be you have to pay at least $3000 to get it. For the average person this is not a reasonable request and to me this greatly diminishes its practicality and therefore its "coolness".
 
I totally agree, but you also have to agree with some of the flaws.
Call me an idiot, but the way everyone is trashing the MBA makes me want to buy it even more.

A lot of people are complaining about the border around the screen, the battery, the speakers, the keyboard colour, and nitpicking at every other component of the MBA, but I think what everyone is really mad about is the price.

If you can't afford it, don't try to convince yourself that it is a crappy machine by pointing out all of its flaws. The MacBook Air, when finally shipped, will function perfectly for what it is meant for.

SO STOP COMPLAINING. There is nothing wrong with it. It was introduced as the world's thinnest laptop, not the world's most powerful laptop. TOO BAD IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT.

Can't wait to buy it when they have it in stores :)
 
"Money is no object."

well even if i was rich, i dont think i would throw away money even if i had a near unlimited amount. i would make my money make more of itself :D

The macbook air is a cool machine. Its really thin and yes you can even use an envelop as a carrying case

why would anyone carry a $1800+ laptop in a plain paper envelope? not even padded? and an envelope will make you look like a cheap ass that cant afford a $40 laptop bag.
 
vista business by default yes, but when you load ubuntu or dualboot any flavor of linux, it becomes kick ass again. personally i wont even let vista load for the first time, ill do a DBAN on the HDD before it can startup then install XP for games and ubuntu for regular surfing, etc. (DBAN = deriks boot and nuke, HDD eraser basically)

also that Asus notebook i mentioned is only $1100 for the Turion and ~$1250 for the core 2 duo, the turion is only SLIGHTLY slower but it makes more heat.

True; for me, I'd put OpenSolaris on there, or even FreeBSD would be a great thing to run. GNOME is becoming really easily to use, hopefully the touch screen capabilities of Xorg will improve as well.
 
well even if i was rich, i dont think i would throw away money even if i had a near unlimited amount. i would make my money make more of itself :D



why would anyone carry a $1800+ laptop in a plain paper envelope? not even padded? and an envelope will make you look like a cheap ass that cant afford a $40 laptop bag.


the envelope is the best idea ever... and i'm not joking
 
@ bluelight

Well I think you're on to something there...

MBA is a statement about where Apple (and SOME of the industry) is headed.
Multi-touch trackpad in all MB and MBP? YES
LED back-lit screens in all MB and MBP? YES
More SSD offerings as it gets better? YES
Non removable battery in all MBP? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

I think it's reasonable to say MBA will get better, but eventually as tech progresses all MB and MBP are going to get better. I do not see Apple continuing with 3 lines of notebooks in their current form, period. As tech moves forward the Air concept will be absorbed, or the other offerings will be altered in a away that makes them more unique.

...Anyone thinking multi-touch tablet? :rolleyes:
 
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