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The main issue that is going to keep impacting 5c sales...

I agree with the OP. A LOT of people consider the iPhone 5c a very low end phone when actually is basically an iPhone 5 in plastic casing. I do believe it is impacting sales. Just think about it, the younger people do not want to have "the cheap" iPhone...
 
Not to stereotype, but I wouldn't think a doctor would care what his friend thought of his 5c, let alone come on this board and post about it, you know what I mean???
 
penajmz said:
I agree with the OP. A LOT of people consider the iPhone 5c a very low end phone when actually is basically an iPhone 5 in plastic casing. I do believe it is impacting sales. Just think about it, the younger people do not want to have "the cheap" iPhone...
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You really think young people care whether their phone is plastic or aluminum? If that was the case no one would be buying Galaxy's.
 
I don't see it being much of an issue. Those that want it as a social symbol just want to have the Apple logo regardless what it's attached to. In some circles the colors will play a bigger part than the higher end model. I personally like the plastic case. Give me flagship internals in a black C case and I'm in.
 
juswest said:
I've heard the same thing. Apple spent the years since the 3G dumping on plastic, and have convinced a good majority of their buyers that plastic is evil. I heard a lady call the 5C stupid, because it's plastic. I still think the 5C will do well, but if it doesn't well it's Apple's fault.
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I think the thing is....the 5c is Not plastic. Samsung etc make "plastic" phones.... you can take the back off and bend the F#@k out of it.
iphone is a hard poly- carbonate shell. High strength, long lasting... coloured exterior. Within, is pretty much the same spec 5 with better battery life.
Now, while it is not for me, it will sell millions............ as it should.
 
Adelphos33 said:
Was having drinks with a good friend yesterday... I pulled out my iPhone to check a message, and he said "Dude, you got the cheap iPhone... You're a banker, what are you doing with one of those." This guy is a trendy dude (works in art, etc) and pretty funny... I told him it was the same as the iPhone 5, better than his 4S (which runs iOS7 beautifully, BTW), etc. At the end of the day, he was a bit unconvinced. It's a dumb conversation, but the fact is millions will have the same view. And its difficult to really say the 5c is much better than the 5 given iPhones 4-5S basically work well for most people's phone usages and all run the current OS.

In prior years, I would have upgraded to the 5s, but this year I chose the 5c instead due to the more hefty feel and better battery life. Cost wasn't an issue and really shouldn't be given the phones essentially cost the same. However, it will always be seen as the "cheap iPhone" when no such thing ever existed. This may be a problem going forward as Apple has never made "cheap" products even when some of their products have been inexpensive (iPhones are pretty inexpensive on contract and basically always have been). I doubt this issue would have been solved by making the phone worse and cheaper as many suggest.

Not sure how Apple overcomes this in the long run.
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Considering that you're a banker, I think you're partially to blame for the idea that the 5C is a cheap phone. I don't mean to blame you personally, but your profession. The idea that the 5C is a cheap phone is a fiction that was invented by equity research analysts who thought that Apple was trying to consolidate market share. This rumor turned out to be completely false, but not everybody seems to have realized that yet because the rumor was so widespread. I think it'll take some time for people to realize that the rumor was false.
 
mikkker007 said:
I think the thing is....the 5c is Not plastic. Samsung etc make "plastic" phones.... you can take the back off and bend the F#@k out of it.
iphone is a hard poly- carbonate shell. High strength, long lasting... coloured exterior. Within, is pretty much the same spec 5 with better battery life.
Now, while it is not for me, it will sell millions............ as it should.
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The public doesn't care about the word polycarbonate. To them it is plastic. I've had people ask if we've gotten the plastic one, not the polycarb one. As I said I think it will sell, but if it doesn't. Well hey they have spent a few years calling plastic useless. I'm typing this on a plastic MacBook actually.
 
Typing this from the Cube. 5S sold out, quite a few people looking at 5c. I thought about either exchanging my yellow for a blue 5c or getting the 5s. After looking at the 5s, my same complaint (weight) applies. Sticking with the yellow, got a black case, dock, additional lightning cable, etc. I think this thing will sell - people are looking at it as an alternative to the 5s, and the Apple guys are pushing it.

These new iMacs look pretty, btw. Is it gluttonous to have the latest iMac, iPad (in a few weeks), iPhone 5c and an Macbook Air?
 
Apple will never make cheap products. For those people who thought Iphone C was going to stand for cheap, china or whatever they thought, had this crazy idea from no where. People come/stay with Apple for the name of the brand, the OS and loyalty as well as having a premium product. Okay I agree I don't see how plastic is premium in my opinion, however you will always have a market, for no matter what Apple makes.
 
Was talking to my 14 and 11 year old daughters this morning. The 11yo gets a iphone for her 12th birthday. She saids she gets an iphone 5 for her birthday. I told her it would be an iphone 5c. They both said "that's the plastic one I don't like those don't you think it'll break easier?" I explained to them that the plastic would be more durable then the glass back 4s that the 14yo is using.(which the back is cracked by the way). Apple has touted how premium there phones are because they aren't plastic that now Apple people can't understand that plastic is actually more durable.
 
It is the expensive cheap iPhone.

If it were the inexpensive cheap iPhone, it would work.
 
dokindo said:
BMW sells more 3 series cars than 5 series.
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Maybe (not sure), but the profit margins go the opposite way. So much so that recently it was said that the 5er accounted for half of the entire comany's profits. After all, it still needs the same number of wheels, engines, seats, stereos, steering wheels etc. It just needs a bit more steel and plastic, but they can charge thousands more.

The iPhone 5s/c situation is the exact opposite, as the main cost is the tech inside, and the shell cuts costs further allowing Apple to make more money on the cheaper product.
 
robertopod1968 said:
Was talking to my 14 and 11 year old daughters this morning. The 11yo gets a iphone for her 12th birthday. She saids she gets an iphone 5 for her birthday. I told her it would be an iphone 5c. They both said "that's the plastic one I don't like those don't you think it'll break easier?" I explained to them that the plastic would be more durable then the glass back 4s that the 14yo is using.(which the back is cracked by the way). Apple has touted how premium there phones are because they aren't plastic that now Apple people can't understand that plastic is actually more durable.
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Whether something is "premium" doesn't necessarily have to do with durability

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lympero said:
5c IS the cheap iPhone whether you like it or not. Also according to gsmarena http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-5c-battery-life-test/
has worse battery life than iPhone 5.

So just buy a 5s if you want an iPhone. End of story.
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So far my 5C battery life is demolishing my 4S, which had better battery life than the 5 apparently... Battery is a strength

I threw one of Apple's black cases on my 5c. Liking it a lot. Love hate relationship with this phone. Plus, 5S won't be widely available until November or December, after my 30 day return window, so it's this phone for the next year

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cube said:
It is the expensive cheap iPhone.

If it were the inexpensive cheap iPhone, it would work.
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It's really difficult to imagine how iPhone could have made a cheaper iPhone they were happy with (for example, a cheap iPhone would have to support a majority of apps and run iOS7, which really requires at least 4S technology in a new phone)
 
Adelphos33 said:
Typing this from the Cube. 5S sold out, quite a few people looking at 5c. I thought about either exchanging my yellow for a blue 5c or getting the 5s. After looking at the 5s, my same complaint (weight) applies. Sticking with the yellow, got a black case, dock, additional lightning cable, etc. I think this thing will sell - people are looking at it as an alternative to the 5s, and the Apple guys are pushing it.

These new iMacs look pretty, btw. Is it gluttonous to have the latest iMac, iPad (in a few weeks), iPhone 5c and an Macbook Air?
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You got a Yellow 5c? Jesus Christ. How old are you? Do you also drive a Mustang Convertible?

I returned my 5s (because it was space gray) and while waiting to buy a replacement Silver 5S I had to use my mom's old 4s. Damn was that thing bulky and heavy. Only people with bad taste would actually want a phone that is thicker and heavier. Seriously. we might as well go back to using phones that looked like this.
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The bottom line is the 5c is the cheap iPhone. It's merely a iPhone 5 in a cheaper to produce plastic case. Foxconn most likely didn't want to invest in the machines necessary to produce 2 generations of metal-shelled phones, thus the 5c was born.

Furthermore the colors aren't very professional. Hot Pink, Candy Green. It's great for kids in the age group of 8-16.

Bottom-line is 5c is perfect for your 8 year old daughter, not for a banker.
 
cube said:
It is the expensive cheap iPhone.

If it were the inexpensive cheap iPhone, it would work.
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It's already working... Have you seen sales numbers from Apple to know that it isn't? No! We never will probably, but I have read from a reliable source that sales are split 50/50 so I'd say it's working

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ToroidalZeus said:
You got a Yellow 5c? Jesus Christ. How old are you? Do you also drive a Mustang Convertible?

I returned my 5s (because it was space gray) and while waiting to buy a replacement Silver 5S I had to use my mom's old 4s. Damn was that thing bulky and heavy. Only people with bad taste would actually want a phone that is thicker and heavier. Seriously. we might as well go back to using phones that looked like this. Image

The bottom line is the 5c is the cheap iPhone. It's merely a iPhone 5 in a cheaper to produce plastic case. Foxconn most likely didn't want to invest in the machines necessary to produce 2 generations of metal-shelled phones, thus the 5c was born.

Furthermore the colors aren't very professional. Hot Pink, Candy Green. It's great for kids in the age group of 8-16.

Bottom-line is 5c is perfect for your 8 year old daughter, not for a banker.
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It's his phone. What's it matter if he's a banker? Maybe he was tired of the aluminum casing. It could have been anything. Now I'll admit I think Apple chose some crazy colors on some of them but the phone is in no way a bad device.

I'm a 31 year old male and I have the white 5c. It's white not blue or yellow or green, but it was MY choice to get it. I like the phone and have no regrets that I did get it. I honestly don't care what someone else will say or wants to say about it. Most of the time when they hold it and feel it they change there mind anyway ... It's in no way "cheap." It's a "cheaper" iPhone, but not "cheap"
 
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I keep hearing that tech savvy iphone people will go with the 5s. From what I've seen a hell of a lot of iphone devotees who buy the new iphone every year have gone with the 5c. So I don't think that's true at all.

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ToroidalZeus said:
You got a Yellow 5c? Jesus Christ. How old are you? Do you also drive a Mustang Convertible?

I returned my 5s (because it was space gray) and while waiting to buy a replacement Silver 5S I had to use my mom's old 4s. Damn was that thing bulky and heavy. Only people with bad taste would actually want a phone that is thicker and heavier. Seriously. we might as well go back to using phones that looked like this. Image

The bottom line is the 5c is the cheap iPhone. It's merely a iPhone 5 in a cheaper to produce plastic case. Foxconn most likely didn't want to invest in the machines necessary to produce 2 generations of metal-shelled phones, thus the 5c was born.

Furthermore the colors aren't very professional. Hot Pink, Candy Green. It's great for kids in the age group of 8-16.

Bottom-line is 5c is perfect for your 8 year old daughter, not for a banker.
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I had no idea the colour of my phone reflected my status. How sad and immature of a mindset. Best get a black car next time round because I need to make sure people know I'm not 8 and earn quite a lot.
 
ToroidalZeus said:
You got a Yellow 5c? Jesus Christ. How old are you? Do you also drive a Mustang Convertible?

I returned my 5s (because it was space gray) and while waiting to buy a replacement Silver 5S I had to use my mom's old 4s. Damn was that thing bulky and heavy. Only people with bad taste would actually want a phone that is thicker and heavier. Seriously. we might as well go back to using phones that looked like this.
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1) 4S is a much better design than the 5s or 5c, IMO. Density is good.

2) My yellow phone looks like legal paper or a post-it note. It is actually by far the most "professional" looking color, even more than white IMO. One of the reasons I bought it. I considered blue today and couldn't go for it.

3) Yellow evokes Porsche or Ferrari, IMO. I saw more red Mustangs in my day.
 
Adelphos33 said:
1) 4S is a much better design than the 5s or 5c, IMO. Density is good.

2) My yellow phone looks like legal paper or a post-it note. It is actually by far the most "professional" looking color, even more than white IMO. One of the reasons I bought it. I considered blue today and couldn't go for it.

3) Yellow evokes Porsche or Ferrari, IMO. I saw more red Mustangs in my day.
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I have to say out of the posts I've read from you ... You might make the most sense of anyone in the forum lol ... I agree. I think the yellow and white 5c's are the only two professional looking ones as well. There is nothing wrong with you choosing yellow. The 5c is a wonderful device and I'm not going to let some guy in a forum try to talk me out of it. I know it's not a cheap device. Honestly the word cheap and iPhone 5c doesn't even go together
 
I guess I'm showing my age, but I never thought I'd live to see the day that people made value judgements about others based on the color of their cell phone! Why even bother to get into a discussion with anyone about a phone you don't have and don't like? I personally don't care for the 5s, but I don't go to threads about it and bash it, or anyone who choses to buy it ;)
 
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