Yes. Shows highlighting the burden a sick family member can be on a family with a lack of wealth and inadequate health care can be truly heart breaking. The sacrifices of personal dreams and life goals those family members make all because their current financial situation gives them no other choice is truly deviating to watch.
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'The Me You Can't See: A Path Forward' Town Hall Conversation Coming to Apple TV+
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Town Hall lol, which company is doing this town hall anyway? Who's the people targetted to be addressed here? I'm so confused.
The layout with all the money at Oprah's, The Prince's and Apple's disposal this layout in the picture looks so cheap so overdone Zoom.
Why are we associating poor with conservative? Shouldn’t it be “or”?
One does not imply the other.
I can't get over this bizarre set design. It's like Oprah traveled to the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey.
I absolutely agree with you...there is so much more to this than "liberal people stroking each other". I am strongly conservative but have to agree at some point about problems the world has regardless who is talking about it.
I can't get over this bizarre set design. It's like Oprah traveled to the end of 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Her in that chair ... somebody in her team has some VERY stong memories of Maxell hard!
Spot on. Amazing how so many people want to not face the issue and continue to sweep it under the rug.
Yeah, I grew up with the understanding that all we need to just toughen up and deal with it. But when we look at homelessness, drug abuse (escapism), child abuse followed by the subsequent police brutality that comes eventually from the dehumanizing experience of managing the negative impact of unchecked mental health issues by means of the criminal justice system, one realizes that ignoring it isn't making the problem go away.
Even if most of us are lucky enough not to suffer from mental health related issues, let's be respectful of those who do and try to understand them, listen, and where appropriate, help.
Even if most of us are lucky enough not to suffer from mental health related issues, let's be respectful of those who do and try to understand them, listen, and where appropriate, help.
This is precisely why I will not be subscribing to Apple TV after the free trial. Getting mired in the angst of rich liberals isn’t appealing to a wide audience.
Every time I watch these shows and feel bad, remember that when they say they went "broke", they mean down to some millions left.
Do it for free (Harry & Oprah) and I mean donate your own money to the production and distribution, make it free for all on the platform, and emphasize available resources.
if the goal is to reach as many people as possible, then Apple TV exclusives aren't the way to do it.
How about a network TV special where they buy the time from the network to reach the maximum amount of people?
Too much to ask? I dunno.
I do know that mental health and addiction are two problems that are overly stigmatized. Both almost killed a loved one by suicide and the later is killing him now by alcohol.
Overcoming or managing these very prevalent issues should absolutely be celebrated as a sign of strength and resilience. Hey, it's HARD to manage mental health issues and it's HARD to overcome addiction. The stigma and shame that comes with "he used to be a drug addict" or "he was an alcoholic" can be overwhelming.
I should know. I've got 3 years sober in a few months. It's been work, but well worth it. I don't dwell on who I was, or the things I did. I marvel in the potential of my future, and how much better my life is now. It's still challenging, but take my word.
Totally.
Worth.
It.....
if the goal is to reach as many people as possible, then Apple TV exclusives aren't the way to do it.
How about a network TV special where they buy the time from the network to reach the maximum amount of people?
Too much to ask? I dunno.
I do know that mental health and addiction are two problems that are overly stigmatized. Both almost killed a loved one by suicide and the later is killing him now by alcohol.
Overcoming or managing these very prevalent issues should absolutely be celebrated as a sign of strength and resilience. Hey, it's HARD to manage mental health issues and it's HARD to overcome addiction. The stigma and shame that comes with "he used to be a drug addict" or "he was an alcoholic" can be overwhelming.
I should know. I've got 3 years sober in a few months. It's been work, but well worth it. I don't dwell on who I was, or the things I did. I marvel in the potential of my future, and how much better my life is now. It's still challenging, but take my word.
Totally.
Worth.
It.....
The Me You Can't See. -> The You We Don’t Want To See.
It's probably the flip of others saying rich & liberal in their "critiques" of this series on this thread.
Do you subscribe to any other streaming services? Or do you have a cable TV subscription?
The Me You Can’t See: A Path Forward is a companion to The Me You Can’t See, which Apple claims“has been the number-one most-watched program worldwide on Apple TV+ since its launch and that it drew 25% new viewers to the service and a more than 40% increase in average weekend viewership in the UK.”
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So give us some numbers Tim. Should not be shy to proudly state the number of viewers. My aunt Jenny and her friend Bertha watched (well to be frank, Jenny says Bertha slept through the show) so who were the other 412 or so?
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So give us some numbers Tim. Should not be shy to proudly state the number of viewers. My aunt Jenny and her friend Bertha watched (well to be frank, Jenny says Bertha slept through the show) so who were the other 412 or so?
Remember when being a leader was an accolade? Not being a victim, whether to an ill-defined mental illness or systemic oppression?
So is the docuseries required watching to appreciate the full level of whining that the town hall will be shoveling.
FYI the end of free Apple TV+ is coming up and no I will not be paying for this kind of nonsense. I’ll likely check in once a year for a month to keep watching For All Mankind but that’ll be it.
FYI the end of free Apple TV+ is coming up and no I will not be paying for this kind of nonsense. I’ll likely check in once a year for a month to keep watching For All Mankind but that’ll be it.
I still don't get why Apple is allowing Oprah Winfrey to bore us to death with her Life Coaching Way's. I think it's high time that Apple TV+ starts doing what everyone expects it to do. Entertain us.
I don't think it's downplayed at all. It's now hip to list your mental disorders on twitter. As I see it, the problem isn't that it's taboo to talk about... the problem is that so many people are having mental health problems in the first place. It's unprecedented.
mental illness doesn’t care if you are rich or poor. Your post is evident of why this issue cannot be addressed properly.
The issue, to me, isn't that mental health problems exist for them. It's that they can easily afford the best mental healthcare out there. As much as needed for as long as needed. Making it hard to relate with them. Leading to a sardonic response.
Most Americans have the choice of
- No help because it's simply far too expensive and unavailable
- Some cheap pill pusher. Who'll talk to you for five minutes. Then spend fifteen filling out prescriptions and paperwork. While you sit there.
- Go deeply in debt for help
- Make huge sacrifices in their budget to afford help. Causing other hardships in their life and big lifestyle changes. Which then hurts mental health. A sort of Catch 22.
- Maybe get a few inadequate visits a year through insurance. Assuming they don't have a giant deductible.
- Tough it out
- Self medicate
At least that's my take. Having to deal with mental illness in my family. People might be more accepting if the focus was on regular people who don't have access to proper treatment or those who got better in spite of the financial burden involved. Because being aware of mental health issues and asking for help is a fruitless endeavor. If you don't have a way to pay for it. At best you might get some free clinic doctor or one of the few psychiatrists who take Medicaid. Whose help will be woefully inadequate. As they don't have the time for any comprehensive treatment. Due to their massive patient load.
While the topic needs attention. The people who'll watch the show aren't ones who need to be reached. They're already convinced or nearly there. The likes of Oprah and Prince Harry won't reach the average Joe voter. Who needs convincing.
All they see is someone who has everything complaining about how tough their life is. Despite the intentions of the people behind the show. If the general response is derision and scorn. Focusing on reaching them a different way. Perhaps trying many different approaches would meet with more success. Rather than pushing on and being dismissive.
I focus on Americans. As I have no idea how countries with nationalized healthcare deal with psychiatric visits. If it's something paid for as much as needed, not included or included but limited. It's not intended as a slight on America.
Do you realize you just used the same attack against those you disagree with that you accuse them of making?
The issue isn't with people here downplaying mental health. In fact, most people here might call Harry and Oprah narcissists, and narcissism is a cluster b personality disorder.
So people here are acknowledging the mental health issue. What they are pointing out is that Harry, Oprah, et al are using the program to use their audience as narcissistic supply in order drown their endlessly thirsty ego with validation ale.
If Apple wants to bring the discussion to the forefront, why not showcase struggling or even homeless veterans, or former athletes who now scrape by? Apple's highlighting un-relatable people with un-relatable problems.
Great reply. I'm not that old but have been living in Japan for much of my life. We have nationalized healthcare and it sucks. Mental health is taboo and the suicide rate is sky high. Many of the problems stem from late 19th century attempts to turn the 90% of the population that was non-samurai into fodder for the military. Soldiers returning back from wars as far back as the 1890s were forced to endure PTSD as an issue of "mind over matter". That problem was generally solved by "alcohol over mind". World War II (the 13 Year War) compounded that across the entire male population and reinforced it into the children.
Nobody in authority wants to deal with mental health, because honest dealings would require them to come to grips with the very past that they try to pretend never happened. It's a curse. They'd rather see their citizens suffer than admit the faults of their predecessors. That's how mental health problems are passed down from generation to generation.