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It must be human nature to ridicule and demean people that are more successful and wealthier than they are. Oprah has been been highly successful doing good for other people. She opened school in Africa for young girls, during her show on ATV she notice one of her 12 year old students was depressed, when she finally got her to open up, she said her Uncle rapes her on a regular basis. When she asked her class of 87 girls how many of them had the same experiences, 27 girls raised their hands. Her interview Lady Gaga was equally revealing about her constant sexual abuse by her producer when she was 19, and all the pain she endures. It should also be noted that Oprah was a victim too, she knows what she is talking about and is very qualified to understand and help. I say to all who post negative comments, you have NO CLUE about how sexual abuse affects someone you love till it happens to someone in your own family, I KNOW. So why you don't watch a few episodes and put yourself in their shoes before you make all snide comments.

Thank you! I just have to shake my head on many of the insensitive responses above. I have more to say, but I'll stop with that.
 
The topic of mental illness is so important yet downplayed, especially in the USA. And from the comments here, I can see why. Mental illness is something that affects every socioeconomic class and culture but is still taboo to talk about.

I applaud Apple for bringing this discussion to the forefront. Hopefully using well known people as Oprah and Prince Harry will get attention to this vital topic.
Oh yeah, I've never heard anyone support mental health awareness before. Definitely not every day and everywhere you look. I need Oprah and Prince Harry to do it.
 
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I haven’t seen all of the shows yet, just some clips here and there because I haven’t had time to watch any tv lately. But it’s my understanding there are regular people’s stories in there, too, including a kid in a refugee camp. And the celebrities aren’t complaining about anything. Glenn Close was talking about the effects on her and her siblings of being raised in some sort of cult. Her siblings are regular people with severe mental illnesses and were in her story.
If this is true, as I have not seen any of this either and don't know, then this is the marketing they need to do. I like the Oprah that examines , discusses and gives a voice to everyday people that would otherwise go unheard. I dislike the Oprah that decides the world needs all the gritty details of Harry and Megan's family issues as if it has any real impact on 99% of people. With the growing wealth inequality and political divides in the world right now, hearing the rich and famous pontificate about things like mental health issues (though I acknowledge they are some shared/similar experiences) for no other reason that they are rich or famous is tone-deaf in my opinion.

If commentary and side stories from those sorts are mixed in, that's fine, but if we're talking about common thread issues, people need to see others like them struggling with things on the same scale they do. The average person trying to understand the mental health challenges faced by a member of the British Royal family is like asking them to quantify the distance between the Earth and the Sun. It's so completely outside their realm of existence how are they supposed to connect to it?
 
The average person trying to understand the mental health challenges faced by a member of the British Royal family is like asking them to quantify the distance between the Earth and the Sun. It's so completely outside their realm of existence how are they supposed to connect to it?
I saw the messaging as "even celebrities are struggling with issues like rape or the death of a close family member", so it's not an issue that's limited solely to people who are poor or those from disadvantaged backgrounds.
 
Did any of you watch the show? Its not political at all and includes "average" working class people's stories as well as mental health professionals. Prince Harry also showed pstd treatments. Confused at these comments.
 
They seem almost narcissistic like on one hand they are all like „booohoooo our life is so hard, we just want to live a normal protected life in peace“ and on the other hand, they keep talking about their life, basically feeding dailyfail et al with headlines every day. Just buy a farm and shut up. Remember when they tried to make us feel sorry for them for having to pay security stuff themselves LOL
There seems to be some kind of comprehension issue going on with a few posts, like this one. This isn't a show where they complain about how hard their life is.

I feel that there are a swath of people that have cynicism so ingrained in their thoughts that even the slightest hint of something that they associate with a something/someone they see as being contrived, it then needs to be belittled, and sometimes in a way that doesn't make sense.

I get it, rich people in privileged positions have life ALOT easier. The amount of inequality in this world is frustrating and the haves aren't always deserving of what they do have. This doesn't mean that they can't or don't want to help others in a meaningful way.

Having said all that, I'm probably not going to watch the show because Oprah and Harry aren't people that I really follow or admire. This doesn't mean that it won't be helpful for people who do watch this show though.
 
It must be human nature to ridicule and demean people that are more successful and wealthier than they are. Oprah has been been highly successful doing good for other people. She opened school in Africa for young girls, during her show on ATV she notice one of her 12 year old students was depressed, when she finally got her to open up, she said her Uncle rapes her on a regular basis. When she asked her class of 87 girls how many of them had the same experiences, 27 girls raised their hands. Her interview Lady Gaga was equally revealing about her constant sexual abuse by her producer when she was 19, and all the pain she endures. It should also be noted that Oprah was a victim too, she knows what she is talking about and is very qualified to understand and help. I say to all who post negative comments, you have NO CLUE about how sexual abuse affects someone you love till it happens to someone in your own family, I KNOW. So why you don't watch a few episodes and put yourself in their shoes before you make all snide comments.
Have you ever considered that she just might be a pedophile fixated on pedophilia and she’s just exploiting these girls for her own prurience and profit? Why is it she is so focused on live “tell it all’s” to drag the victims through reliving their experiences? Why not simply quietly get them expert counseling and therapy, as well as engagement to help law-enforcement prosecute the perpetrators? Oh no it all has to be live on the Oprah show.

Oprah’s patterns of behavior greatly mimics that of Jimmy Savile in the UK - another media mogul gone wild victimizing children through his “charitable work” ruse that even got him knighted by the Queen.
 
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Unpopular opinion: I like Prince Harry bringing awareness to mental health. I’ll be First to admit this pandemic year has changed me in some ways. Y’all could benefit from self-reflection too lol.
I think it is fantastic when anyone can bring awareness and openness about mental health to the general public. However, what I find disgusting is when anyone uses it to promote their own agendas, egos and get paid handsomely for it.
 
If this is true, as I have not seen any of this either and don't know, then this is the marketing they need to do. I like the Oprah that examines , discusses and gives a voice to everyday people that would otherwise go unheard. I dislike the Oprah that decides the world needs all the gritty details of Harry and Megan's family issues as if it has any real impact on 99% of people. With the growing wealth inequality and political divides in the world right now, hearing the rich and famous pontificate about things like mental health issues (though I acknowledge they are some shared/similar experiences) for no other reason that they are rich or famous is tone-deaf in my opinion.

If commentary and side stories from those sorts are mixed in, that's fine, but if we're talking about common thread issues, people need to see others like them struggling with things on the same scale they do. The average person trying to understand the mental health challenges faced by a member of the British Royal family is like asking them to quantify the distance between the Earth and the Sun. It's so completely outside their realm of existence how are they supposed to connect to it?
You said: "The average person trying to understand the mental health challenges faced by a member of the British Royal family is like asking them to quantify the distance between the Earth and the Sun."

I think there is a lot of truth to that statement.

I also think "mental health" is such a malleable phrase it can be twisted into anything (and it IS twisted into anything).

Apple and Oprah should really define terms: "Mental Health." Well, what does that mean? Low level anxiety from general life activities? Occasionally feeling the blues? If THAT'S what they mean, well, this is worthless. That's called "life." Deal with it.

Or are they discussing a major depressive episode? Are they addressing SSRI use? How about GAD? Agoraphobia? THAT would be interesting and something I would watch and I think others can learn from. Also--I want to see and hear from the average person on the street with these issues . I want to see (and the world to see) how the average Jane or Joe with major depression can't feed themselves or function for weeks or months at a time. Even if Prince Harry has or had clinical depression, his experience will be much different than the average person---so different in fact, it's not comparable to the 99.99999999999% of the general population, as he has unlimited money.

But "mental health" without more? Just an unspecified buzz phrase anyone (like Prince Harry) can use to claim victim status and receive attention. Mental health has become incredibly faddish. People are walking around thinking they have "mental health" problems because they've occasionally been down in the dumps, or were sad after a breakup, or got nervous before a big speech. I don't blame those people--I blame pop culture for taking an incredibly serious topic, dumbing it down and making an industry out of it.

(I have a longer previous post about my personal issue with major depressive disorder and GAD, so go read that before you @ me with a lecture about "mental health.")
 
I think it is fantastic when anyone can bring awareness and openness about mental health to the general public. However, what I find disgusting is when anyone uses it to promote their own agendas, egos and get paid handsomely for it.
Define "mental health"for me.
 
Have you ever considered that she just might be a pedophile fixated on pedophilia and she’s just exploiting these girls for her own prurience and profit? Why is it she is so focused on live “tell it all’s” to drag the victims through reliving their experiences? Why not simply quietly get them expert counseling and therapy, as well as engagement to help law-enforcement prosecute the perpetrators? Oh no it all has to be live on the Oprah show.

Oprah’s patterns of behavior greatly mimics that of Jimmy Savile in the UK - another media mogul gone wild victimizing children through his “charitable work” ruse that even got him knighted by the Queen.
I think you might need some therapy yourself if this isn’t a troll post.
 
Have you ever considered that she just might be a pedophile fixated on pedophilia and she’s just exploiting these girls for her own prurience and profit? Why is it she is so focused on live “tell it all’s” to drag the victims through reliving their experiences? Why not simply quietly get them expert counseling and therapy, as well as engagement to help law-enforcement prosecute the perpetrators? Oh no it all has to be live on the Oprah show.

Oprah’s patterns of behavior greatly mimics that of Jimmy Savile in the UK - another media mogul gone wild victimizing children through his “charitable work” ruse that even got him knighted by the Queen.
Oh come on, you have absolutely no concept about what you are talking about. Oprah a pedophile? Ridiculous, watch a few episodes before you make unfounded comments. You totally missed my point that there are far more serious cases of sexual abuse than most people realize. 27 girls out of 87 abused. Like I said before, unless you have experienced the consequences of sexual abuse in you own family by someone you trusted to look after your child, you have no idea of the life long effect it has on the victim. This is just one aspect of this series. In the episode I watched last night, there was man struggling with the loss of his child from suicide, a poet dealing with the sudden death of his mother. A first responder dealing with the trauma of Covid. Mental health is real important issue, too often overlooked or ignored by the fear of the stigma of admitting you have a problem. Kudos to Prince Harry for having the backbone to talk about it in a global setting.
 
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I found the episodes I have watchrd to be informative and heart wrenching at times. It pisses me off to read all jerks that jump all over this without understanding what it is all about and not bother to watch. Typical of most of our society today, demean everything and everybody, just ignorant. Tell me all you smart asses, what you do if your spouse told you she was thinking about suicide? or that someone in your family was abused or raped? Would you have the guts to go national television and open up about?

It must be human nature to ridicule and demean people that are more successful and wealthier than they are. Oprah has been been highly successful doing good for other people. She opened school in Africa for young girls, during her show on ATV she notice one of her 12 year old students was depressed, when she finally got her to open up, she said her Uncle rapes her on a regular basis. When she asked her class of 87 girls how many of them had the same experiences, 27 girls raised their hands. Her interview Lady Gaga was equally revealing about her constant sexual abuse by her producer when she was 19, and all the pain she endures. It should also be noted that Oprah was a victim too, she knows what she is talking about and is very qualified to understand and help. I say to all who post negative comments, you have NO CLUE about how sexual abuse affects someone you love till it happens to someone in your own family, I KNOW. So why you don't watch a few episodes and put yourself in their shoes before you make all snide comments.

Did any of you watch the show? Its not political at all and includes "average" working class people's stories as well as mental health professionals. Prince Harry also showed pstd treatments. Confused at these comments.

well said. the show was VERY surprising and engrossing once I actually watched it. All the critics here clearly did not watch based on their incorrect statements about the shows actual content.

these forums have too many angry people, it’s why I don’t stop by much anymore.
 
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Brilliant. Did you see the picture of her with Weinstein looking like she was introducing a girl to him? Oooff.
I haven’t seen that picture. Care to share a link? I know there was one of her kissing him on the cheek from 2014, but that was years before people found out about his crimes.
 
Oh come on, you have absolutely no concept about what you are talking about. Oprah a pedophile? Ridiculous, watch a few episodes before you make unfounded comments. You totally missed my point that there are far more serious cases of sexual abuse than most people realize. 27 girls out of 87 abused. Like I said before, unless you have experienced the consequences of sexual abuse in you own family by someone you trusted to look after your child, you have no idea of the life long effect it has on the victim. This is just one aspect of this series. In the episode I watched last night, there was man struggling with the loss of his child from suicide, a poet dealing with the sudden death of his mother. A first responder dealing with the trauma of Covid. Mental health is real important issue, too often overlooked or ignored by the fear of the stigma of admitting you have a problem. Kudos to Prince Harry for having the backbone to talk about it in a global setting.
Define "mental health" for me.

Death of a loved one is....part of life and everyone deals with it.

A true mental illness, even something triggered by the death of a loved one, is very different.

If you say "mental health" is not the same as "mental illness," I say you have a point.

But the two are conflated by pop culture to the point where they are synonymous to many if not most people. Hell, just roll through these forums.

I asked for the definition of "mental health" because it's malleable enough to cover everything, but it's not the same thing as having a mental illness, and, hearing the phrase, which has become faddish enough to elicit interviews with a man for whom money is literally no object (Prince Harry) makes me roll my eyes. Hard.
 
From the CDC:

"What is mental health?​

Mental health includes our emotional, psychological, and social well-being. It affects how we think, feel, and act. It also helps determine how we handle stress, relate to others, and make healthy choices.1Mental health is important at every stage of life, from childhood and adolescence through adulthood.

Although the terms are often used interchangeably, poor mental health and mental illness are not the same things. A person can experience poor mental health and not be diagnosed with a mental illness. Likewise, a person diagnosed with a mental illness can experience periods of physical, mental, and social well-being."

Why does a person's apparent wealth restrict them from having relevant knowledge of a subject?
 
I don't think that is strictly an Apple thing, I think its a media as a whole thing.
Maybe it is so... but if that's the case, it's pretty low (or bad? idk..) for Apple to go ham into it the way they do...
 
I am not a huge Oprah fan but can see she might be a good host. But anything with Prince Petulant is an immediate NO for me, get rid of him and this could be an interesting and helpful show.
 
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