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I posted a thread with this question but got no response. Maybe I can get some help from you guys.

I'm going to be building a Hackintosh to put in my home studio, and need some suggestions on parts to buy.

I'm mainly going to be recording with ProTools, and editing video in FCE on this machine, and I would like to keep the total cost around $700.

Anyone have some suggestions for me?
 
Mobo is most important. See insanelymac.com forums for favorable ones. Mine is built on Asus p5k-e and only required a few bios adjustments. Wireless and FW are are bit wonky, though. That might impact you if your camera is FW and you plan to import to this computer (as opposed to import on another computer, then transfer the video to your hac).
 
Cave Man said:
Wireless and FW are are bit wonky, though. That might impact you if your camera is FW and you plan to import to this computer (as opposed to import on another computer, then transfer the video to your hac).

Yeah, that might pose a problem, as I will be importing video with FireWire quite regularly.
 
Yeah, that might pose a problem, as I will be importing video with FireWire quite regularly.

I have a Gigabyte EP45-DS3R the fire wire on this works well alternatively before this board I was using a Dynex three port card with the Agere L-FW323-06 chip on it or even if you have an old Audigy sound card laying around with fire wire on it this works too. For the rest a p35 or p45 based board with as much ram as you can afford, 8800gt video card, quality name brand 500w or better power supply, pretty much any SATA hard drive and DVD burner.
 
Yeah, that might pose a problem, as I will be importing video with FireWire quite regularly.

I can't speak to using Firewire for video, but I can for Firewire audio: Firewire works 100% for me once I acquired a PCI FireWire card with a TI chipset (this one) and switched to the Speedstep + Sleep kernel. Neither the onboard Firewire (w/VIA chip) on the motherboard (Asus P5K-VM) or a (VIA) FireWire PCI card could handle multiple (>2) audio tracks without stuttering and Logic had fatal sync problems. Two-channel stereo did work without stutter (w/VIA card or VIA onboard) but CPU utilization was a bit high... most people probably wouldn't notice the problem unless they used DAW software that actually uses more than two tracks of audio.
 
No complaints about Firewire on my Mobo, if you want Firewire 800 just get a DeLock PCIe Express Card (2 FW800 and one FW400 port). :)
 
fanboi skirmishes, .44 sphagnum, burning tutus, epoxy mullets, tinfoil goatees, etc

Try telling people that. Oh well, please let's not start a rather predictable OS war; we all know NOONE will "win" it, and it's really a rather waste of keystrokes to be honest.
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who just WILL NOT be able to resist attempting to convince us that Macs are bad value for money
(including a multiplier for sw+periphs)
and that a generic x86 platform can do the same thing etc... which perhaps we DID already know, but they will prop[a]gate this opinion to us as if we are ALL complete morons & know nothing about the inner workings of computers! :D
Ah well - not to worry hey - too much time to tinker about and not enough time to work,
thanks bush (pbuh)
is probably the VERY REASON they cannot afford a real Mac with real support.
I have no way of knowing whether anything else is better than xp. and i think some win apps won't run on VM, etc & no equivalent for some apps.
xp does a lot on a cheap/old , probably because i learned my way around windows. "support issues", are really tweak or 3rd party "issues", therefore google. (try win98, the horror, the horror: Opera9, Proxomitron, HOSTS, Kerio, SPI router = pretty clean for 300MHz/128MB of "ewaste". irfanview plays almost anything, but i'm looking for modern pdf reader - foxit has mild flaw on 9x.)
I'd know macs if i'd started on a mac SE. btw, i subbed to macrumors because it scored best in my test search for "g4 (etc)" forums. Unfortunately i still don't know mac terminology (etc...) Anybody got a free early osx cd to donate? :)

to the OP question: I'm better off knowing workplace OS. (that's Win.) the fiirst hatpintosh-capable PCs will show up (maimed) on curbs about 2015. I might try hakxpkintosh curb art, Bill.jpg then.
 
CPUs are cooled by CPU coolers, not by case fans. The stock Intel CPU cooler is a POS with a waxy something on the bottom that doesn't make for effective heat transfer. I've seen guys trying to cool their system with a 20" window fan. It's a waste of time...
I don't know in regards to the hottest cpus (p4? athlon xp?), but for older cpus, 20" is way overkill. if your cpu fan dies, try the cuban taxi driver method: remove side panel. remove the dead cpufan, cuz it's blocking airflow. (shirt hanger) wire (or twine) a small fan into the side of the case pointing at the heatsink. works fine. runs ok through 15-20 minutes high priority "crunching" (winxp. don't know about other os). i think dust builds up in the case a little faster, though. And you don't want to make the little man in your computer angry. Badlaa, 8121.jpg
 
OK. Here's what I'm looking at right now for my Hackintosh. Graphics aren't too important, as the main purpose of the computer is going to be recording. Like I said before, I want to keep it around 700 USD:

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHz
Nvidia 7600GS PCI-E
4GB of RAM
Seagate Barracude 7200RPM 320GB HD
SATA DVD Drive
Antec Sonata III Case

The total for these parts comes out to about $589, which leaves me some extra money for peripherals.

What do you think?
 
OK. Here's what I'm looking at right now for my Hackintosh. Graphics aren't too important, as the main purpose of the computer is going to be recording. Like I said before, I want to keep it around 700 USD:

Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHz
Nvidia 7600GS PCI-E
4GB of RAM
Seagate Barracude 7200RPM 320GB HD
SATA DVD Drive
Antec Sonata III Case

The total for these parts comes out to about $589, which leaves me some extra money for peripherals.

What do you think?

Looks good I had that motherboard for a time it worked well. You say you are doing recording (audio?) with this? If so how are you planning to get the input the on board sound can be hit and miss sometimes with the inputs/outputs.
 
MacUser2525 said:
You say you are doing recording (audio?) with this? If so how are you planning to get the input the on board sound can be hit and miss sometimes with the inputs/outputs.

I'm using USB and FW interfaces, so it shouldn't be much of a problem, and need-be, I can get a PCI USB or FW card.
 
I'm using USB and FW interfaces, so it shouldn't be much of a problem, and need-be, I can get a PCI USB or FW card.

As I said earlier, if you'll most likely need a FW card with a TI chip if you wish to use DAW software with most FW audio devices. It's not just a Hackintosh issue -- it's an issue with "real" Macs as well.

http://www.gearspace.com/board/music-computers/163468-what-firewire-chipset-new-macbooks-pro.html

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7216967

http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=6390

http://forums.presonus.com/showthread.php?t=4054

http://logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=97362

http://www.bj-brown.com/blog/?p=15

http://logic-users.org/forums/LUG/thread/103336
 
I'm using USB and FW interfaces, so it shouldn't be much of a problem, and need-be, I can get a PCI USB or FW card.

Good I was thinking maybe you didn't know about the audio situation.


In that case he may want to spend a few more dollars and get the board I have then the GA-EP45-DS3R, the fire wire worked out of the box and it is a TI chipset.
 
In that case he may want to spend a few more dollars and get the board I have then the GA-EP45-DS3R, the fire wire worked out of the box and it is a TI chipset.

The "problem" is that a lot of people say "firewire works out of the box" but those persons aren't reported the specifics of "what works" in terms of the software and hardware they're using. For example, a FW hard drive might "work fine" with a given onboard FW interface, but that doesn't mean that same FW interface is going to work (100%) with a specific model FW audio interface with (specific) DAW software.

Firewire audio (via a non-TI chipset) will often work if the person is just using two channels of audio -- i.e. iTunes or streaming a movie from Hulu. But it may not (work 100%) if you're using DAW software and working with multiple audio tracks. In many such cases, the CPU utilization spike to 100%, you lose sync on all the tracks, and the audio stutters and finally fails with a error dialog.

It would help if people would provide details and specific info on "what works" (software/hardware) rather than just saying "it works", and I don't mean that in a condescending way.... ;)
 
Some of us have reported that Fire Wire and/or USB only works when the device is plugged in before boot up.
 
The "problem" is that a lot of people say "firewire works out of the box" but those persons aren't reported the specifics of "what works" in terms of the software and hardware they're using. For example, a FW hard drive might "work fine" with a given onboard FW interface, but that doesn't mean that same FW interface is going to work (100%) with a specific model FW audio interface with (specific) DAW software.

Firewire audio (via a non-TI chipset) will often work if the person is just using two channels of audio -- i.e. iTunes or streaming a movie from Hulu. But it may not (work 100%) if you're using DAW software and working with multiple audio tracks. In many such cases, the CPU utilization spike to 100%, you lose sync on all the tracks, and the audio stutters and finally fails with a error dialog.

It would help if people would provide details and specific info on "what works" (software/hardware) rather than just saying "it works", and I don't mean that in a condescending way.... ;)

I understand what your saying there I don't use any of the professional audio stuff so have no idea there. The worst use case I have had was when testing the board here with my overclock I ran mprime using all four cores along with encoding a DVD using Handbrake, listening to music in iTunes while surfing the web and copying ~100gb to my external fire wire drive that was connected to the pass through port on the FireWave I have for audio. The CPUs were under 100% load at all times for a couple of hours without any problems now whether this is equivalent to some multi-channel audio editing I have no clue.
 
Some of us have reported that Fire Wire and/or USB only works when the device is plugged in before boot up.

I know you're trying to help and I'd don't mean to seem rude but my point is that when building a DAW you really need to check and find the exact hardware/software combinations that have been proven to work.

It's always been that way with DAWs since day-one. Not all hardware will work properly. A few years ago a lot of people building 939/754 AMD systems found that the nForce4 chipset on many motherboards just would not work 100% with most DAW software under any version of Windows. Changing drivers or bios or whatever didn't solve the problem because it was a hardware issue specific to using the nForce4 based machines as a DAW. They were powerful machines and played back two tracks of audio beautifully, but they would choke on just a few channels of multitrack audio. It wasn't a CPU "raw horsepower" issue -- these machines would play the games on the day on full-settings, etc. There was a specific hardware issue with (multitrack) audio. See: nForce4 Single CPU Chipset - DAW Stress Test Reports, for example.

So my point is this -- if you want it to work, you need to find out if the exact hardware/software combination you'll planning on using has actually been verified by someone (to actually work).
 
As I said earlier, if you'll most likely need a FW card with a TI chip if you wish to use DAW software with most FW audio devices. It's not just a Hackintosh issue -- it's an issue with "real" Macs as well.

If this issue is a problem with real Macs, then why bother to resolve it in a Hackintosh thread?
 
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