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I have apple everything in my house, always have since the very early days of Apple Classic and Apple Quadra then into powerpc and the clones, ipods, etc up until recent. I've tried to like For All Mankind, thought it was boring. So gave up. Then I tried to like The Morning Show, again, gave up. 0 for 2. I'm not about to waste time on anything else unless they get universal glowing reviews. I just don't have time to waste sitting watching a tv show if its not good with so much other content out there that is so much better than these shows. The way I judge shows is if the characters and stories don't grab me right away I'm not going to waste time trying to force myself to like it. Doesn't matter how much money Apple dumps into them, if they are junk they will just end up being expensive junk.
 
I mostly love apple products. I can't stay engaged to their shows. They aren't terrible but they arent all that good either. If you can't make a show with Jennifer Aniston interesting, then you arent doing a good job.
 
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I expected that I wouldn’t like it after all of the reviews, but it’s the only show that I like that AppleTV+ has to offer at the moment.
 
I'm not so sure critics didn't like it because of Apple. This happens a lot. It seems that when critics don't like a show, the audience loves it...and vice versa.
 
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Not sure I’d put any faith in audience scores. Who actually goes to these sites to rate shows? What matters to Apple are the numbers that only Apple has access to.

That said these shows were hyped for months. Professional reviewers are human and biased. They knew the money behind it. It’s not surprising to see lukewarm reviews because expectations were probably higher than usual.

I barely managed to binge the first 3 episodes (and I would have rated them decent) but ep 4 kinda lost my interest barely into it. I haven’t been back to it. Not that it matters.
 
The problem with the Morning Show, is it takes time to build. I too didn't like it through the first few episodes and tweeted my dismay. But (and I'm eating crow here) it gets significantly better, it really starts rolling. Apple's mistake was not showing the whole series to critics.
 
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I'm not so sure critics didn't like it because of Apple. This happens a lot. It seems that when critics don't like a show, the audience loves it...and vice versa.

I would really take this with a grain of salt. Rotten tomatoes is just one metric of many that people use to pre judge things or confirm their bias.
 
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Executive producers Kerry Ehrin and Mimi Leder believe a lot of the feedback was an “attack on Apple.”

"The role of the Executive Producer is to oversee the work of the producer on behalf of the studio, the financiers or the distributors. An Executive Producer may be a producer who has raised a significant proportion of a film's finance, or who has secured the underlying rights to the project."

sooo... Ehrin and Leder would be objective...
 
Check your egos, maybe the show just isn't good? Not every show Netflix and Hulu put out have been a hit. I'm more inclined to believe there are fanboys that will just praise anything and everything Apple puts out vs critics having some sort of an 'ax to grind' with Apple. Of course, someone will say something to the effect of "why did Apple spend money on this"...Apple typically makes good investments but maybe this isn't one of them. They'll be other shows and they'll figure it out, this one just stinks...get over it. Going back to Netflix, even with their experience they still invested in 'The OA' - that show was utter trash.
 
Apple bought Beats for the streaming service (and got a headphone/speaker business on the side) and rebranded it into Apple Music.

It should have done the same with Netflix, and turned it into Apple TV+.

It also would have benefited from Netflix’s existing catalog as it got its own content up to speed.
 
Yep loving Apple tv+ so far! Also, Apple tv shows (see, for all mankind, the morning show, etc..) all started with at least 3 episodes at launch. I got the disney plus one year subscription and yes they have a lot of content and yes the mandalorian is great but the second episode is 27 minutes long. Waiting one week for 27 minutes?
 
Really? I've seen some people here that are huge Apple fans that do not like the show. This is a bit ridiculous.

Of course there will be people who don't like the show! Huge numbers, though? No. Mostly MacRumors critics. But that isn't even in question. There's little point arguing over it, because we know the numbers: The audience rating is over 95%. Meanwhile, the critics rating is 63%. That's a 22% difference. There's definitely something wrong with the numbers.
 
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I guess as much. The criticism likely came from people with an axe to grind, who then went to the press in an attempt to hurt Apple’s chances to win over future talent or content deals. I pointed out the apparent disconnect on rotten tomatoes some time back and it’s nice to see this point being corroborated here.

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Moving forward, I believe that Apple TV+ has enough content to grab tens of millions of subscribers. Assuming an annual budget of 2 billion and the average customer paying $50 a year, the magic number is 40 million subscribers. Should be quite achievable for Apple.

Using a curated feed of content revolving around compelling storytelling to get users to watch the TV app, in turn promoting other tv bundles and earning the subscription revenue. Granted, there will be detractors who still can’t wrap their heads around Apple doing original content, and think Apple should still be working on routers and cinema displays, but I genuinely think Apple is on to something with Apple TV+ and the Apple TV app.

LIke anything, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But, using short term Rotten Tomatoes scores (especially Audience scores) is not necessarily a good indicator. Many of the initial viewers are going to be people that have a very high interest in the product and, therefore, more likely to react positively to the show. In addition, it has been shown again and again that RT scores are very often subject to manipulation by fans (both positively and negatively). I would not trust any score less than a month from release (and considering three of the four shows have not even aired a full season, we don't know how strong or weak they are going to finish.)
 
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Isn't this line of argument akin to victim blaming?!?

It's not the show stinking. It's that the audience is messed up.


You must have not read the article. You appear to have it backwards. Some of the critics, less than half per the RT poll, didn't like it, but the actual audience loves it, 95% score.
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Of course there will be people who don't like the show! Huge numbers, though? No. Mostly MacRumors critics. But that isn't even in question. There's little point arguing over it, because we know the numbers: The audience rating is over 95%. Meanwhile, the critics rating is 63%. That's a 22% difference. There's definitely something wrong with the numbers.

No, there's nothing "wrong" with the numbers. Critics are often wrong and it's common for the actual viewers to like or dislike something the critics don't. Remember, a critic is just one person's opinion, versus tens of millions.
 
'There Were a Lot of Apple Haters and Wanting Apple to Fail'

Yes, Morning Show, if I don't like your product decisions I must be a hateful, decrepit, creep not worthy of your lofty, elite, admirations. This attitude is exactly why I don't watch the Morning Show.
 
Apple bought Beats for the streaming service (and got a headphone/speaker business on the side) and rebranded it into Apple Music.

It should have done the same with Netflix, and turned it into Apple TV+.

It also would have benefited from Netflix’s existing catalog as it got its own content up to speed.

Netflix has too many costs and debt. Apple wouldn’t want the debt. They launch so many shows that there’s no time to hype them. It’s billions spent. There’s a such thing as too many.

Even something like stranger things is over in a week or less hype wise. On other services like hbo a show like that would be milked for months.

I think Apple is playing it right (if they even need to at all). Just need better choices of shows.
 
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