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The mouse is barbaric old tech. Ditch it now and join the modern world.
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And it needs to be the norm for some time for manufacturers to make their profits on it. They won't start spending more and more money on the next thing right away minimizing their margins. It just doesn't make sense for them to do it.
Iirc, the original post advocated a 8k 34 inch imac.
There are, of course, costs associated with such a beast.
Deskspac-- probably not an issue for me. I have a 27 inch imac plus a 22 ish 1080p screen that I mostly use for watching streaming video, an as a dump screen for things of secondary importance.
Computing-- it takes a lot of computing power to render modern 3d graphics at 8k. Less so for remding still images and text-- the last being probably the real reason for ultra high def displays.
Financial. But then there are are quite a lot of people with much higher budgets than mine. and tech companies have excelled at making the stuff of dreams quite reasonable. yay for mass production!
8k in a computer may make more sense than 8k in a tv.
I meant 4-5k resolution 34" iMac. Heheh 4-5k dollars....is a little bit out of my price range. Realistically that price probably wouldn't be to far off the mark.
Bill Gates said 2002 would be the year of the PC tablet using a stylus. Shudder. Best to leave such terrible attempts at computing on the technology scrap heap. Steve Jobs's Apple would never have allowed an Apple Stylus to be sold. Let alone for 99 bucks.
And of course we can coin the phrase "before its time" with the Apple Newton. Then again, Bill Gates said that OS/2 would be the next great operating system. (g)
We can also refer to the Newton as a piece of junk. But Bill Gates would still be wrong about the stylus/pencil.
Opinions bruh. In my opinion, nothing is better than a mouse when you don't have a touch screen. Trackpads are just too awkward to use. And even touch screens aren't the best.
Nothing can beat computer mice.
They may become more affordable. However, I'm not sure what colour the sky is in your world but given the market for large panel TV's is saturated and given most people tend to keep such products for around 10 years then manufacturers are going to have one hell of a struggle on their hands.
One of the reasons why 3D never took off (apart from the glasses issue) is that manufacturers couldn't persuade people to go out and buy yet another large panel TV when they had just invested in the one they already owned. I think people on forums such as this forget that we are only a tiny tiny part of Joe Public.
So, what do you do with your stylus while typing?
I'm not sure that 'objective' means what you think it means. All of your posts in this thread have been purely subjective.
Hey, I love my 3D TV but I also still prefer using a mouse.
Of course you love your 3D TV, it is a "barbaric" and "obsolete" spin off of the old 3D movies with glasses (a la Creature from the Black Lagoon). All kidding aside, I am glad you enjoy your 3D TV and hope it gives you many years of entertainment. Also glad that a mouse fits all your needs for the computer. I live in a 2D world (not by choice) so I use a "barbaric" and "obsolete" plasma 2D TV along with my Kensington Trackball which has been around for many many years. I guess old school has its charm though the OP says different.
I have a Plasma TV.
I keep it in my hand.
The manufacturers release a new line up of models every year though. Every year they push the bar out a little more. Next year they are introducing 8K to the consumer market.
How do you hold it so that you can still type with all fingers? Maybe attach a picture to demonstrate.
Just for giggles, I pulled out my old Wacom Bamboo and plugged it into my iMac and found it simply brutal to use. Will stick with my mouse and magicpad combo. (most things that the track pad does far better than the mouse.. well except drag and drop .)
Been there and done it with a intuos pro as i work in prepress in the graphics arts industry. Im sorry but a high DPI mouse with a decent mouse pad gives much higher productivity over a tablet and stylus for me. If anything i find the tablet too slow. Im proficient on both devices btw.
Having used Wacom tablets for almost ten years professionally, I agree with OP that a mouse is inferior in almost every way to a pen tablet. But only if you have your computer on a desk. I couldn't see myself using a pen tablet sitting on the couch or laying in the bed, where the Magic trackpad is a much better option. And of course a mouse is better when it comes to any sorts of gaming.
The pen tablet has a learning curve. It probably took me a full week before I could use it without hiccups, but once you get the hang of it all input actions will be so much faster than any other input device. It is superior.
The main reason I switched to a pen tablet was because of carpel tunnel syndrom in my wrist. I basically can't use a normal mouse for more than 1-3 hours per day before a bad pain starts in my wrist. I even had to learn using the mouse with my weaker hand because of this.
A pen tablet is a great investment if you want to avoid pain/surgery and increase your productivity and work flow.
The pen tablet has a learning curve. It probably took me a full week before I could use it without hiccups, but once you get the hang of it all input actions will be so much faster than any other input device. It is superior.
The main reason I switched to a pen tablet was because of carpel tunnel syndrom in my wrist. I basically can't use a normal mouse for more than 1-3 hours per day before a bad pain starts in my wrist. I even had to learn using the mouse with my weaker hand because of this.
A pen tablet is a great investment if you want to avoid pain/surgery and increase your productivity and work flow.
From my cold, dead hands!
The trackpad was designed as a diabolical instrument of torture!
Oh, and get off my lawn!
The trackpad was designed as a diabolical instrument of torture!
Oh, and get off my lawn!
Because we all do exactly the same job.
Right?
No.
If you steal my tablet, pad or mouse, you slow me down a bit, because selecting the right window becomes multiple keypresses, not a single point-and-click. I'm running top on all terminals in this screenshot, because I don't want to give away any potential headaches. But my typical day involves dozens and dozens of terminal sessions to unix boxes. Where I manage daemons and (java) dragons.
Mouse, tablet or pad is a window and/or text selecting device, nothing more. And moving a mouse is less effort than picking up a pen, finding the right spot on the digitiser, rotating the pen to have the button under your index finger and dragging to select some text. Pens really, really suck at that.
The answer is yes in all window based computer systems where you point and select.
You could probably not be more wrong than this.
I have used a Wacom Tablet extensively for my job and i disagree. A good mouse is WAY more productive unless you are retouching. I am highly proficient on both devices and have over 17 years Experience in the graphics arts industry so i know a thing or two about the subject.
Ya'll are wrong trackballs are the way to go for everyone !!!!!!
(until you need a mouse or tablet for Ps or what ever)
(until you need a mouse or tablet for Ps or what ever)
The argument isn't even as black and white as the OP suggests for individual users. I wouldn't think about attaching a mouse to my MBA as using the trackpad feels so natural, but when I'm using my iMac I almost always go for the Magic Mouse even though there is a trackpad sat there too. I've never really got to grips with the trackpad unless it's sat right in front of the keyboard, and it's never felt right having it there when using the iMac. It certainly doesn't work for me where the mouse would be in my right hand.
I've not really used a tablet, so can't comment on that, but for me it's trackpad where it's built into a notebook and a mouse when I'm using a standard desktop keyboard.
I've not really used a tablet, so can't comment on that, but for me it's trackpad where it's built into a notebook and a mouse when I'm using a standard desktop keyboard.