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The NBA 2010-2011 Season
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GfPQqmcRKUvP
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Hahahaha
Oh yeah, because Dwyane Wade, who will go down as one of the greatest ever, and Bosh, one of the top 10-15 players in the league, are going to shoot around 25% for the season. It couldn't have been due to the fact that those three hadn't even played 5 minutes of a preseason game together!
They're actually very good at defense. Anyone who actually follows the NBA knows that.
They're going to flop for the reasons we saw in the opener? Why, because a team that is largely unchanged and has played together for four years, after holding the Heat to 9 points in the first quarter, beat a team who hasn't played together by 8? Again, Wade and Bosh will not play that badly during the season once they coalesce as a team. There is an adjustment period, and even though they're outstanding individually, they just need to get used to each other. That's why you saw all those horrendous turnovers. They will improve greatly during the first few weeks of the season.
Abstract
macrumors Penryn
I think James and Bosh need to learn with Wade. That's it. Naturally, James and Bosh could probably play very well together without needing much time to adapt simply because James is great at the 2 or 3 spot, and Bosh is great at the 4 spot. With Wade in the mix, James and Wade will probably step on each other's toes a bit, and so James will adapt and may step on Bosh's toes.
I don't know. All I know is that the Heat lost because 2 star players played poorly on the same night. That's just a coincidence.
I don't know. All I know is that the Heat lost because 2 star players played poorly on the same night. That's just a coincidence.
zioxide
macrumors 603
Every post about the heat in this thread is about Wade, Lebrick, and Bosh. Are there any other guys on that team?
It takes more than 3 guys to win a championship.
Individually, the wannabe big 3 are good all around players. But there's no proof that they can come together and play great team defense. I'm not saying its not possible, but I haven't seen it yet. (and yes there are still 80 games to go so its very early)
We do have that proof about the celtics. Their D is probably the best in the league, and the main reason why they made the finals 2 of the past 3 seasons.
It takes more than 3 guys to win a championship.
Individually, the wannabe big 3 are good all around players. But there's no proof that they can come together and play great team defense. I'm not saying its not possible, but I haven't seen it yet. (and yes there are still 80 games to go so its very early)
We do have that proof about the celtics. Their D is probably the best in the league, and the main reason why they made the finals 2 of the past 3 seasons.
They're going to have a tough season. I still don't understand why the Suns picked up the players they did this offseason. They lost their two power forwards (Amare, then Lou Almondson) and then replace them with a bunch of small forwards (Hedo, Childress, Warrick, rookie Lawal).
People are questioning Amare and how he'll play without Nash. Maybe it should be the other way around? Without any inside threat to create space for the shooters, they are going to have a hard time.
GfPQqmcRKUvP
macrumors 68040
We'll see, won't we? It was good enough for the Celtics, and their big three aren't/weren't nearly as good as these three.
And there's no proof they won't come together and play great team defense. They're great individually, the team aspect should come in time.
Agreed.
The.316
macrumors 65816
You are absolutely right because:
A. Wade played a whopping three minutes total in the Heat's preseason matchups.
B. Wade, Haslem, and Chalmers are the ONLY players left over from last year. 12 players need to learn a completely new scheme on offense and defense.
C. Wade, LBJ, and Bosh all were the primary options for their teams last year.
Nothing is going to get ugly for the Heat. I knew they were going to come out slow, they just had too many things they had to adjust to. By the time the All-Star game comes around, which means Mike Miller will be well back into the rotation, this team will be running on all cylinders. They will be well prepared come playoff time.
You are NUTS if you think this team wont be able to play defense. Miami was one of the top defensive teams in the league last year, and that was only with Wade, and an average supporting cast, if that. Miami will be awesome defensively this year, but it wont happen overnight. Both Boston and Miami played well defensively the other night, and the commentators thought that those two teams will be great defensively this year, and I absolutely agree.
Miami went against a team that has been together since the original big three was formed, aside from adding the two O'Neals. Miami has been together for a month now, not even since Wade was away with his injury/court battles, and with Mike Miller out until January. There was too many things going against them to win that game in Boston, but for as bad as they played Tuesday night, they sure did make it a game come the 4th quarter. They will be just fine.
The.316
macrumors 65816
You saw a glimpse of what the Heat defense will be this season last night against the Magic. They held the Magic to 25 points in the second half, were all over the court, created many shot clock violations, and just bad shot attempts. Anyone who doesnt think this Heat team will be top five in defense is nuts.
benhollberg
macrumors 68020
MacRumors for Utah Jazz Fans
The 2010-11 Utah Jazz season has started and this thread can be for all the Jazz fans. Inspired by that overtime win versus the Miami Heat last night, especially Millsap's 46 points!
The 2010-11 Utah Jazz season has started and this thread can be for all the Jazz fans. Inspired by that overtime win versus the Miami Heat last night, especially Millsap's 46 points!
benhollberg
macrumors 68020
The Jazz beat the Orlando Magic 104-94. Williams with 30 points, 14 assists. Millsap with 23, Vince Carter with 20 for the Magic.
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The Jazz are showing a lot of promise so far this year. Can they keep it up? Only time will tell.
I'm not a huge Jazz fan, not really a basketball fan at all. But I do try and keep up on what's going on with the team from time to time. They've definitely piqued my interest this year so far.
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I'm not a huge Jazz fan, not really a basketball fan at all. But I do try and keep up on what's going on with the team from time to time. They've definitely piqued my interest this year so far.
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benhollberg
macrumors 68020
I started Utah Jazz thread and now it is here for some reason.
The Jazz are good and really good but just so inconsistent. They lose to the Warriors and then beat the Heat and Magic. If only it was consistent.
The Jazz are good and really good but just so inconsistent. They lose to the Warriors and then beat the Heat and Magic. If only it was consistent.
aloofman
macrumors 68020
It does seem unlikely, but there are two reasons why there's a chance it could happen. (Not saying it will, just that it's a little more likely than it appears right now.) One is that with Melo's list so short, it will severely limit how many quality offers the Nuggets will get, possibly to the point where they just bite the bullet and keep him for the rest of the season. But they don't want to do that, so a half-season rental in exchange for some players/picks/cap space to rebuild on the fly might be possible.
The second reason is that there will probably be a lockout next fall and part of the season might not be played. That factor is hanging over all of the potential 2011 free agents because many teams won't want to sign a big contract without knowing how much of next season will be played or what the cap limit will be. If the Nuggets feel sure that at least part of next season will be cancelled and that the salary cap will go down (or perhaps become a hard cap), then they may prefer to lower their payroll instead and see what's available when the lockout ends.
The potential lockout in 2011 is the great unknown hanging over the whole season. It should be a much bigger story than the Heat or the Lakers, but most people don't want to dwell on it. No one has any idea what will happen, but if the cap is lowered and becomes a hard cap, it could force the breakup of teams like the Lakers, Heat and Celtics. That seems unlikely, but those teams can get outvoted by the smaller franchises. And no one knows how long the players could hold out if they have to. Last time Stern won because so many players (even superstars) are living paycheck to paycheck.
The only worry the Heat should have on defense is a lack of muscle inside. If Dwight Howard ever figures out how to score without dunking, he could absolutely clobber them. Fortunately for the Heat, very few teams are big enough up front to really exploit this weakness. With most teams the Heat can just run teams off the floor instead. Unfortunately for the Heat, the three teams that do have size up front are the Lakers, Celtics and Magic, the teams they will have to beat in the playoffs to win the title. The Lakers' length gives every team trouble and the Celtics added the O'Neals specifically to neutralize Howard.
Now whether those teams can exploit the Heat inside AND slow down Miami's offense is an open question. I think the Heat will get better as the season goes on, barring injury. The key for them will be whether they figure out all of their roles in time for the playoffs. It's not that big a deal to decide who will be The Man in the regular season, but the extreme pressure of the playoffs tends to force the issue. Wade is the only one on the team with championship experience and no one knows how Bosh will handle it. And we won't know the answer to that until Miami's postseason is over. It's not something we can know during the regular season.
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benhollberg
macrumors 68020
Not to stereotype tall white guys in the NBA, but...something worries me that he's going to breakdown if he logs extended minutes consistently. Hope I'm wrong.
aloofman
macrumors 68020
benhollberg
macrumors 68020
I know that people might feel bad for him but if you are a Portland fan you got to be disappointed. This guy has played only 82 games, they should have picked Durant.