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Long story short: How is the fan doing in the new 13" air? Does it spin up quickly and how bad is the noise?

Bearing in mind I haven't moved a bunch of files on mine yet so the indexing has been at a minimum, but in my first week I had the fan come on once and you could barely hear it.
I have been impressed how quiet this machine is, dead silent (other than typing).
 
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Thanks for this information! I am not very concerend about the performance, but the more about the fan noise.. I always loved the 12" fanless design as i hate spinning fans. Right now i'm working on a 15" 2018 model with a 4k display attached. Whenever i start parallels or do something a little intensive the fans kick in and make quite noise. I never had this experience with my older 15/13" models but the 6 cores seems a bit to much for the machine.

Long story short: How is the fan doing in the new 13" air? Does it spin up quickly and how bad is the noise?

It is silent most of the time and even when the fan is on, it is a good sounding fan if that makes sense - i.e. not disruptive, whiny or whooshy like I've experienced with some others.
 
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Long story short: How is the fan doing in the new 13" air? Does it spin up quickly and how bad is the noise?

The fan did kick in during that lengthy build, it went all the way to max speed and it was loud (+8000rpm). That's totally normal to be honest, my 15" rMBP does exactly the same (and all notebooks I've ever tried, Apple and non-Apple) and it is just as loud to my ears. Sure, the 15" does finish the build faster so you'll have to deal with the fan noise a bit longer on the Air.

That being said, once it was done with the heavy processing, it rapidly went silent and cool (ah and yes, it did of course get uncomfortably hot during the build but not as unbearable as the 15"... again, nothing surprising considering it had to run on a +150%-170% CPU usage for +20 mins). Under "normal use" (browsing, coding, testing, playing video/audio, etc.), the fan almost never kicks in and even if it does, it's at a low rpm which I consider totally acceptable and find it barely audible under normal conditions (if you're used to working in a completely silent environment, then you'll very likely notice it more easily... that's not my case, the office is a lively place and also at home, I tend to always have something going on around me/in the background... listening to music, some talk show, talking, etc.).

It really comes down to what you are using it for and how often are you pushing its limits (if you do find yourself pushing it almost all the time then it's perhaps not the right notebook for your needs... or maybe notebooks in general aren't the right pick or you just need to adjust your expectations to today's technological limitations). I don't need to build constantly, nor to render/process stuff constantly, so 90% of the time the machine is silent and at most a little warm but not hot to the touch. Yes, every now and then I need to make it lift more and then it might get more noisy and hot... but i'd argue that the experience would be very similar on a beefier machine too (it has been and still is like that on my 15" rMBP and on my previous notebooks as well and also on the latest 15" rMBPs of my colleagues... if you push them, they get hot and they get loud). The main difference between a beefier notebook and the rMBA would be that you'd need to listen to the noise for fewer minutes because things would get done faster... temps might also be better, but the notebook might be also less portable.

For my needs, it has so far been great. It is powerful enough and silent the vast majority of times. The screen is good (I did not spend time putting other machines side-by-side it and compare pixels and nits and screws and bolts however... I just use it, like any normal person would and it's totally fine and more than bright enough - I tend to use it at 50-60% brightness usually) and I'm also happy with the keyboard, it's my first time using a butterfly keyboard actually (I've used tons and tons of keyboards throughout my life and I've most likely already typed way more text than an average person will in their lifetime... I see many people running around and complaining about it, maybe I just got lucky, but I don't feel I needed any adjusting... the only thing I had to adjust to was the slightly bit different keyboard layout than what I was used to - placement and size of the keys).

The best advice I can give you and others is: if you can get your hands on one for a few days, then do so and try putting it to the test. By "putting it to the test", i mean "use it as you normally would + a bit of extra on top". Don't go ahead and run a crapload of benchmarks and all kind of CPU / GPU intensive tasks and processes just for the sake of proving it's not a super-computer... no, it's definitely not, but it might still be a great pick if you give it a fair chance and test it using realistic scenarios (putting it through the phases you would actually/normally put it through).

I get how the price of the rMBA and its placement in the current range of Apple notebooks can be an issue. Is it really worth the price tag? That's totally subjective... Can one find comparable alternatives and ones with even better specs for the same price (or cheaper)? Definitely! I for one like the OS and have been using it for over 8 years now (I've been mainly a Windows user for +20 years... I still use Windows or Linux, or whatever the job might require, but I do prefer the OSX experience) and I really like the build quality, I totally love Apple's trackpads/touchpads and the performance the machine offers is good enough for my needs.

Sorry for the wall of text, but I do hope you'll find some of the info useful. :)
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Whenever i start parallels or do something a little intensive the fans kick in and make quite noise.

If you plan on using the Air for similar tasks, then chances are you'll have a very similar experience (at best). Then again, considering that the CPU in the Air could theoretically run without the need of a fan, you could just manually fix the fan speeds at a very low rpm and never allow it to spin up. Should you really do that? Is it a great idea? Well... I'd much rather have the fans spinning up than risk frying things or have to deal with nasty throttling.

If possible, you should get it for a few days and decide for yourself whether it fits your needs or not. If you're already kinda pushing your 2018 15" and you're not really happy with it, then the new Air might very likely be a quite big disappointment compared to your current setup.
 
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Sorry for the wall of text, but I do hope you'll find some of the info useful. :)

If you plan on using the Air for similar tasks, then chances are you'll have a very similar experience (at best). Then again, considering that the CPU in the Air could theoretically run without the need of a fan, you could just manually fix the fan speeds at a very low rpm and never allow it to spin up. Should you really do that? Is it a great idea? Well... I'd much rather have the fans spinning up than risk frying things or have to deal with nasty throttling.

If possible, you should get it for a few days and decide for yourself whether it fits your needs or not. If you're already kinda pushing your 2018 15" and you're not really happy with it, then the new Air might very likely be a quite big disappointment compared to your current setup.

Thanks! This was great information. I'm not pushing my 15" and thats part of my problem with this MacBook. I never ever heard my past MacBooks because they didnt heat up from the tasks i do on them. I'm only using browsers and some simple messaging and sometimes a Windows VM, but like i said, this never heated up my older MacBooks. Thats the reason i'm thinking of going back to the Air. I think i will just order one and see if it satisfies my needs. Thanks for the great writeup its valueable information for me! :)
 
My experience is that it runs nearly constantly at at ~2700 rpm with the CPU proximity sensor at 130-140 degrees F, but at that speed it's more or less inaudible. I had it spin up to much high revs (don't rememberer how high) during a DropBox sync session, and the noise was really annoying. The machine got so hot (palm rests were uncomfortable) that I paused the DB session for an hour.

I suspect that many people reporting that the fan isn't running aren't aware that it is, in fact, running. Download a fan utility and monitor the fan on your own machine to be sure.
 
My 2018 Air has been fine but have noticed a weird issue with the display lately. Sometimes, a tiny red block will appear in the address bar. After it appears, and I scroll, it disappears. I contacted Apple Support through Twitter and they had me reset the SMC and NVRAM.

Just now, a tiny white block appeared just above the address bar and then vanished once I scrolled. Has anyone seen anything like this before on a Mac display? This has occurred using Safari, running Mojave 10.14.2.
 

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I have seen this on my Air one or two times. This looks software related to me, because scrolling or switching windows makes it disappear.
I do not worry about it and i think since the 10.14.2 update I have not seen it at all.
 
Anyone have 12 hours of battery life on the MacBook Air? I only have 7 hours at the most.
I think pretty much all reviewers agreed (with what you’d consider actual real-world light usage) it’s more like an ~9 hour machine. Just slightly better than the ntb pro and 12” MB. You might start seeing a bit better battery life as it beds in and finishes indexing and things but it’s definitely not a 12h machine in the same way the old one was.
 
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hi all,

what are your guys' thoughts on the new Macbook Air?

My first thoughts:

-it looks slick, no doubt about it
-128GB starting storage make me nervous about the price of a 256gb or 512gb system
-cpu only Dual Core 8th gen I could find was https://ark.intel.com/products/185280/Intel-Core-i5-8200Y-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3-90-GHz-
-im looking for a companion to my Video Editing Rig, may just have to stay at 8gb. Lets see how the BTO options are.


other thoughts?
- I would suggest at least 256GB storage. SSD's move data around to prevent cell exhaustion, and having more space means the SSD will last longer.
- The 2018 MacBook Air can edit videos, but render/export times are going to be longer. You would likely be more comfortable editing video on a Pro class machine.
- The T2 chip off-loads a lot of work from the CPU. This makes the device seem much more powerful than the specs would suggest.
 
I think pretty much all reviewers agreed (with what you’d consider actual real-world light usage) it’s more like an ~9 hour machine. Just slightly better than the ntb pro and 12” MB. You might start seeing a bit better battery life as it beds in and finishes indexing and things but it’s definitely not a 12h machine in the same way the old one was.

The old 13" MBA was certainly a 10-12 hour machine.

Having said that, nine hours is still a day's work on a single charge.

My own 11" MBA - which dates from 2014 - holds a charge for barely five hours.
 
I have seen this on my Air one or two times. This looks software related to me, because scrolling or switching windows makes it disappear.
I do not worry about it and i think since the 10.14.2 update I have not seen it at all.
Glad it’s not just my machine. I don’t think I noticed it running 10.14 and 10.14.1. It seems to have started on 10.14.2. Other than that minor hiccup my Air has been rock solid.
 
The old 13" MBA was certainly a 10-12 hour machine.

Having said that, nine hours is still a day's work on a single charge.

My own 11" MBA - which dates from 2014 - holds a charge for barely five hours.
Yep it’s certainly decent enough battery life, just not quite as advertised (oh for the days when Apple’s estimates were pretty well bang on!)
 
Yep it’s certainly decent enough battery life, just not quite as advertised (oh for the days when Apple’s estimates were pretty well bang on!)

I think that the stats that are "just as advertised" are achieved under absolutely ideal conditions, and then sold (via PR, and spin, and marketing) as an achievable norm, which is not, of course, the case.
 
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I think that the stats that are "just as advertised" are achieved under absolutely ideal conditions, and then sold (via PR, and spin, and marketing) as an achievable norm, which is not, of course, the case.
Indeed, it’s a shame Apple haven’t kept their old testing methods, but then “this one gets about 9 hours, down from 11+ on the model it replaces” isn’t a very marketable tagline!
 
I think that the stats that are "just as advertised" are achieved under absolutely ideal conditions, and then sold (via PR, and spin, and marketing) as an achievable norm, which is not, of course, the case.
Agreed, perfect world results often differ from real world results, but they look better on paper.
 
I wonder if there will be an updated version this year? (2019) maybe a spec bump at the most i would think.
 
hi all,

what are your guys' thoughts on the new Macbook Air?

My first thoughts:

-it looks slick, no doubt about it
-128GB starting storage make me nervous about the price of a 256gb or 512gb system
-cpu only Dual Core 8th gen I could find was https://ark.intel.com/products/185280/Intel-Core-i5-8200Y-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3-90-GHz-
-im looking for a companion to my Video Editing Rig, may just have to stay at 8gb. Lets see how the BTO options are.


other thoughts?
My advice: Stay away from the new MacBook Air. It is lnot even comparable to the old version. Unless you are not going to use the cam (which sucks big time), you are not going to use trackpad (which also doesn't work properly), not going to type (as the keys get stuck) and don't mind if the programs freeze from time to time. Future plan: Try to find an Apple alternative.
 
My advice: Stay away from the new MacBook Air. It is lnot even comparable to the old version. Unless you are not going to use the cam (which sucks big time), you are not going to use trackpad (which also doesn't work properly), not going to type (as the keys get stuck) and don't mind if the programs freeze from time to time. Future plan: Try to find an Apple alternative.

Sounds like you need lessons on how to use a computer properly ....
 
My advice: Stay away from the new MacBook Air. It is lnot even comparable to the old version. Unless you are not going to use the cam (which sucks big time), you are not going to use trackpad (which also doesn't work properly), not going to type (as the keys get stuck) and don't mind if the programs freeze from time to time. Future plan: Try to find an Apple alternative.

I just picked up a 2018 Air recently and its the best laptop ive owned by far.

Unlocks with my apple watch, if I dont have that one I can use TouchID. Its so nice.

haven't had any issues thus far. trackpad is excellent.
 
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