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What is really beyond my understanding why Apple removed the low cost iPad mini. I do not get that move at all.
They have mountains of data. And they likely weren't selling any or knew that those who were looking at the mini would be fine paying a little more for a full size, but we're going to go with the mini 2 just because of the price gave between that and the lowest cost full size iPad.
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I never said i was going to.
Then what was your point?
 
Maybe I don't understand

But I thought Apple was all about bells and whistles and not slicing everything away for a lower price
Now this isn't a tablet with nothing in it, but it's just a tablet like every competitor has, not the thing that'll blow everyone away, thought Apple was about magic?

Not anymore. The bean counters took over.
 
New iPad is too thick and heavy, size and weight are everything when it comes to hand held devices that you spend a long time holding, especially an iPad, doesn't matter quite as much with a phone but still important.

Apple have got it wrong again, just like with the red iPhone having a white front.

They never quite get it right and give you what you want.

Oh stop whining! They've hacked about $200 off the expected price. If it's "too thick and heavy" for you, then buy something else. It's as simple as that. You have the choice between this new, low-priced iPad that's too heavy for you to hold, or a more expensive older model that's easier for you to use. No one is forcing you to buy the thing! Personally, I'll be ordering one as my original iPad Mini is getting too slow and inefficient. The new one looks like the perfect answer.
 
Even the iPad Air (1) flies on iOS 10.3. Granted there is no split-screen multitasking, but the performance still mostly holds up for the majority of Apps.

But for the money, the iPad Pro probably isn't worth the additional money over the new 9.7 iPad. If you're not. Ordered about an Apple keyboard case and iPencil, then there is no reason at all to spend th extra cash.

My original iPad Air has splitscreen multitasking....I can even watch my cable TV in a little box too.
 
9.7-inch iPad Prodoesn't worth $200.00 more than New iPad



Apple yesterday announced the newest addition to its iPad lineup, somewhat confusingly called the "iPad" and known officially as the "5th-generation iPad," following in the footsteps of the fourth-generation model that was released before the iPad Air.

Designed to replace the iPad Air, the iPad comes with a tantalizingly low price tag: $329. It is Apple's most affordable tablet to date and it's a competitive price point that will allow the iPad to better compete with lower-priced Android offerings.

What do you get for $329? As it turns out, quite a lot. The iPad is a little bit iPhone 6s, a little bit iPad Air, and a little bit iPad Air 2.

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In a nutshell, compared to the iPad Air 2, the iPad has a brighter display and a faster A9 processor (first introduced in the iPhone 6s). Other internal hardware seems to be very similar to what's included in the iPad Air 2, with the exception of the display and the casing. Camera, battery life, Wi-Fi, LTE, and other sensors are all nearly the same.

The iPad does not include a laminated display, and is thus thicker, much like the original iPad Air. It measures in at 7.5mm thick, compared to the 6.1mm iPad Air 2. The thickness and accompanying weight discrepancy is noticeable and the one downside between the new iPad and its predecessor.

Compared to the 9.7-inch iPad Pro, the new iPad is, of course, significantly inferior, which is why it's priced at $329 and not $599. It does not support the Apple Pencil or the Smart Keyboard (no Smart Connector), and it lacks many of the display improvements, including True Tone color shifting and wide color gamut.

The iPad has a slower processor than the iPad Pro, an inferior camera (8-megapixel vs. 12-megapixel rear and 1.2-megapixel vs. 5-megapixel front), two speakers instead of four, a slower LTE modem, and of course, since the 9.7-inch iPad Pro is the same size as the iPad Air 2, the iPad is noticeably thicker and heavier.

If you're looking for top of the line hardware and accessory support, the 9.7-inch iPad Pro is the tablet to buy, but if you don't need the bells and whistles, the iPad is a steal at its price point.

Performance wise, it's going to run all the latest games and apps, it'll take decent pictures, it still has a high-quality Retina display, and it features a 10 hour battery life, so it will hold up for several years, especially when doing basic tasks like web browsing and emailing.


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For those looking for a bit more, Apple is rumored to be planning to introduce an updated ~10-inch iPad Pro model that's going to replace the existing 9.7-inch iPad Pro. The ~10-inch model is said to have smaller bezels and perhaps an edge-to-edge display, allowing it to feature a bigger screen in a 9.7-inch-sized body.

That tablet was originally rumored to be coming in the spring, but now it's looking like we won't see it until later in the year. Based on rumors, it may be worth the wait for those willing to shell out more money for the best technology.

Apple plans to start selling the new iPad on Friday, March 24. The entry-level 32GB Wi-Fi only model will be priced at $329, and a 128GB model is available for $429. Wi-Fi + Cellular models are available at a $130 premium, so $459 for 32GB and $559 for 128GB.

For more details on Apple's new iPad, make sure to check out our official iPad roundup. And for details on the upcoming iPad Pro updates, check out our iPad Pro roundup.

Article Link: The New iPad vs. 9.7-inch iPad Pro and iPad Air 2
 
indeed, my mom has the air, i got the air 2, .. each time i check the os with public betas etc and compare things, there's no real difference in actual usage performance. benchmarks differ, but it's not like it's a generation apart.

It does lag a little, but honestly, the 10.3 release gives the device a new lease of life (surprisingly given Apple's history for legacy support). I'm not saying I wouldn't mind the latest iPad but not enough to fork out the extra $$$$, especially over the so-called 'Pro' nomenclature suffixed model. The new iPad, I'm comparison to the equivalent Pro version really isnt a hard decision. This is classic 'freakononics' at work. I care less for the GPU BOOSTED X suffixed SoaC with the option to use an iPencil and Apple keyboard. I'd rather use the extra $$$ for beer and good times.
 
Their product line is still very straightforward. This actually simplifies the iPad lineup overall (and means a budget conscious customer gets an iPad with an A9 chip, which will get iOS updates for longer than the discontinued Air 2).

These are their flagship products on sale now:

TV: Apple TV

Desktops: Mac mini / 21.5" iMac / 4K 21.5" iMac / 5K 27" iMac / Mac Pro

Laptops: 12" MacBook / 13" MacBook Air / 13" MacBook Pro / 15" MacBook Pro.

Tablets: 7.9" iPad mini / 9.7" iPad (A9) / 9.7" iPad Pro / 12.9" iPad Pro

Phones:
iPhone SE / iPhone 6S & 6S Plus / iPhone 7 & 7 Plus

Watches:
Series 2 (in aluminium, stainless steel, Nike+, Hermes or Ceramic) / Series 1


Remember the ********* when Apple was reportedly getting out of the router business. Just imagine the reaction if Apple discontinues the Mac mini.

Hardly a product line that has got out of control, so I don't think you need to worry.

not sure if youre serious... that's a mess
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Really? What do you find so confusing? Expressed differently, what are you having so much trouble understanding? Maybe someone here can help you.

where do we start..
 
At a fraction the cost of alternatives, this new offering is perfect for those looking at an entry level iPad now. I jumped on the iPad 2 when it just came out, but sold it after finding that I could do almost everything I did with it on my iPhone. What I would like to do is have a basic, but large iPad that would take the place of physical newspapers at the breakfast table and would also be useful to watch some movies/shows. I will probably be back in the market next year (or whenever it happens) that oled models are released.
 
I suspect this is a very canny move by Apple to capture many of us who still own and use an old iPad2 and want to upgrade. Not everyone wants a 'Pro' model, especially those with an iPad2 (such as myself). I use my iPad daily for content. It's getting slow/flaky with a lot of the newer apps, so a new iPad at a reasonable price point is quite compelling.
 
It's so minimally different that it doesn't seem worth the trouble - just drop the price further on the air 2. Maybe they wanted to streamline by stopping making the A8x chips and just make the A9, which they still use in both the iPhone 6s and SE.
 
Guess they forgot to run it past you, huh?

Apple isn't about pleasing one loser on one forum. It's about making something the masses like. That's pretty much business 101.

Anyways, not really shocking that people are complaining about this pretty awesome product.

People complain about the "Apple Tax" - Apple releases a very nice entry tablet for a cheaper price, people complain about features. Yea specs are gonna cost you sweetheart.

People complain about Apple making devices thinner - Apple releases a thicker device, people complain. Err mur gawd its heavier how am I Gonna use this ****? I like thin devices now!!!!!

Don't worry i don't think you are a loser, you are just giving your opinion. As long as you are pleased i am happy.
 
Is it weird that I actually think a smart watch is probably more useful than a tablet? Well as you have a laptop from the last 5 years or so I would just rather use something that isn't limited and needs a keyboard accessory for more efficient typing. Don't get me wrong tablets are cool but always seemed like a clumsy awkward wanna be smartphone.
 
Kinda sucks that Apple didn't keep the same display, weight and dimensions as the Air 2 which feels lovely in the hand. For the price, I'm still considering it as I just want a device for casual browsing about the house, but ultimately for the sake of a new millimetres and grams, I'll probably just get the 9.7" Pro.
 
Kinda sucks that Apple didn't keep the same display, weight and dimensions as the Air 2 which feels lovely in the hand. For the price, I'm still considering it as I just want a device for casual browsing about the house, but ultimately for the sake of a new millimetres and grams, I'll probably just get the 9.7" Pro.

Bah, and that's how they get you. "What's an extra couple hundred bucks anyway?"
 
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Still don't get why the iPad got thicker again with no added value under the hood at all....
This is what I'm wondering - Why? Why is it thicker? Usually there would be a reason like bigger battery or some other component that required it. In this case it's baffling.
 
Seeing how you can pick up the Air 2 32GB wifi model for $299 at Best Buy right now, you'd be stupid to get the new iPad over the Air 2 right now, frankly. The new model is thicker, heavier, and five bucks says only slightly faster thanks to it's standard A9 processor.
There is quite literally no reason to get the new iPad over the Air 2. None.
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A good low cost option and a no-brainer for someone who wants a cheap tablet that will last years.
The Air 2 is 30 bucks less right now. No brains, indeed.
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Oh stop whining! They've hacked about $200 off the expected price. If it's "too thick and heavy" for you, then buy something else. It's as simple as that. You have the choice between this new, low-priced iPad that's too heavy for you to hold, or a more expensive older model that's easier for you to use. No one is forcing you to buy the thing! Personally, I'll be ordering one as my original iPad Mini is getting too slow and inefficient. The new one looks like the perfect answer.
No one expected the new iPad to be this underpowered, and no one expected something so underpowered to be priced at $529, sorry.
 
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One glaring omission and perhaps one of the most important specs is the display pixel density. The iPad Mini 4 has a resolution of 326 ppi, whereas the larger iPad has a eye straining display resolution of 264 ppi. Major noticeable difference in sharpness between the two displays.

Although the iPad has a larger display, you can't hold it farther away from you than the mini, so the relative coarseness of the pixels is easy to see.

Because of my advanced knowledge and wisdom (I'm an old fart), I am getting to the point where my eyes get tired of staring at my ipad mini. I will probably upgrade to the new ipad just to have a physically larger display.
 
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