Agreed....thought maybe you might want to for kicks. I hardly ever use my hack disk.
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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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Hey, a big spender.
More seriously, depending on what Apple do (or don't do) with the Mini, a 2012 will probably be worth quite a bit for its parts, especially a working quad mobo.
Just in case that wasn't obvious to everybody.
Looking at the iMac Pro there could be a place for a modular Mac Pro in the same format but expecting users to pony up for a Thunderbolt 3/USB-C external GPU if they need one. The device would remain an effective sealed unit, leaving storage expansion options to be managed by external docks. Priced correctly, it would be below the iMac Pro because it would do without the 5k screen and possibly without a GPU built in - aiming at people who don't need top end retina screens or ultra powerful GPUs - e.g. programmers?
So you're saying that when you follow Apple's link to Phobio, you can actually get a quote on a Mini? That makes the omission of the Mini on Apple's page even more notable.
I think something is wrong with that web page or the company just doesn't know what the hell it is doing. It wouldn't accept the serial number for my Mac Mini but then did let me pick it in a roundabout way.
Also, I selected one of the Chromebooks from the list, said "yes" to all the questions to make it as good as possible, but despite that it said the device was ineligible for trade-in. So why is it offered in the list?
Apple needs to do some QC on their partner.
This thread is amazing!
It has to be one of the longest running, no?
We are down to "support group" level here basically..
So sad they won't just spec bump the thing..
It has to be one of the longest running, no?
We are down to "support group" level here basically..
So sad they won't just spec bump the thing..
Well at least they acknowledge what it's really worth.
I mean even a brand new Mini is a going-on-4-year-old ultrabook-powered desktop.
It's amazing they won't even just update it..
Change almost nothing but just give us the latest internals (and maybe have to update the case slightly in terms of ports?).
It seems like it would require so so little effort.
Change almost nothing but just give us the latest internals (and maybe have to update the case slightly in terms of ports?).
It seems like it would require so so little effort.
Planned obsolescence guarantees Apple gets your money sooner than later - it keeps inventory and backwards compatibility (development ) costs to a minimum - it doesn't guarantee you cost-performance or lower cost of ownership - if Apple offered a hardware trade-in (upgrade) plan it would make Apple ownership more attractive and keep users in the ranks by off-setting their high retail prices.
I refuse to spend 3-5 thousand dollars to throw my device away in 5 years - ecosystem or not! I don't use cloud services and I have a NAS ... I'll string my devices together and Apple will just be another device on the net.
I refuse to spend 3-5 thousand dollars to throw my device away in 5 years - ecosystem or not! I don't use cloud services and I have a NAS ... I'll string my devices together and Apple will just be another device on the net.
Apple could extend it’s growing subscription model to computers. They almost certainly won’t, and if they did we might not like it, but just as with the iPhone you can join a program that let’s you upgrade every time a now phone comes out, they could also do the same with computers. Of course this won’t work if the computers are seldom upgraded.
Microsoft does that for their Surface tablet and Surfacebook.
So a new base model mini would be $10/month for 4 years plus a $20 activation fee ($500)? But then they have to actually update it every 4 years...
I'll give you $300 for itI entered my MacBook Air serial number and it worked perfectly. Obviously Apple doesn't care about the Mini or they would have listed it as eligible on their own page.
FWIW, I got a quote of $285 for my top spec 2013 11" MacBook Air (i7/8gb/512gb SSD). Very funny...
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But it would take sales away from MB, MBair, MBP, or iMac - so therefor, it must not happen.
All valid points well taken - Apple's most blood-sucking move was eliminating clones and making their hardware OS-dependent - strong benefits in the past and a crucifixion now. As I get older my computing becomes more mature, stream-lined and less customization ... I'm thinking after the Mini and in its wake ... what will Mac do for me that a NUC won't?!
I've been turned-off for so long ... sacrifice has become "believing in Apple".
Went to the "Tech Bar" today at my job ... they have everything - saw the Surface and Surface Pro right next to the Mac stuff ... you'd swear they were all made by Apple in terms of build quality ... gets me thinking.
I've been turned-off for so long ... sacrifice has become "believing in Apple".
Went to the "Tech Bar" today at my job ... they have everything - saw the Surface and Surface Pro right next to the Mac stuff ... you'd swear they were all made by Apple in terms of build quality ... gets me thinking.
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Tim won in my house.
After 2 months of trying different laptops and tablets, Apple and PCs for my wife to upgrade her computing needs she has settled for the 12.9 iPad Pro. As an older person she loved the large retina screen and the ease of use. She had a little trouble adapting between macOS apps and IOS apps for typing with the attached keyboard and pointer but she has adapted and loves it.
Of coarse I remain happy with my hack PC and Windows 10/Linux Mint trifecta but seem to use macOS very little over the coarse of having built this a year and a half ago.
Probably won't see any more Apple Macs in this house.
After 2 months of trying different laptops and tablets, Apple and PCs for my wife to upgrade her computing needs she has settled for the 12.9 iPad Pro. As an older person she loved the large retina screen and the ease of use. She had a little trouble adapting between macOS apps and IOS apps for typing with the attached keyboard and pointer but she has adapted and loves it.
Of coarse I remain happy with my hack PC and Windows 10/Linux Mint trifecta but seem to use macOS very little over the coarse of having built this a year and a half ago.
Probably won't see any more Apple Macs in this house.
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Apple would have been long dead if they didn't kill off the clones. They were, rightfully, sucking the money out of Apple.
The only things the Macs really have now, is the OS (vs. Windows) and the ecosystem (vs. Google, I assume?). If you don't like either of those, there's no reason to buy a Mac anymore.
When it comes to the Mini Im starting to look at the glass as half empty. At this point, if a Mini is ever released it will not be what we are hoping for. Apple's current trends do not support it in a way most of us would like to see. With every new release of a product, we see more non user serviceable parts, not to mention updates to everything but the Mini. They may well end up updating the Mini, but it will probably be something completely different than it is now, and probably not what we were expecting. Either that, or a half baked minor update. Who knows anymore.
Just my two cents.
Just my two cents.
I agree - I just think it's borderline offensive that they are even taking money from people for the current one still.
If it's done, kill it.
If it's not, update it.
The current situation however is just unacceptable.
Three to five thousand dollars? This is the Mac Mini thread. If you spent that much on an Apple desktop I'd think you'd get longer than five years out of it, and wouldn't need to throw it away. And I very much doubt it would be a Mini.
My (admittedly very modest) desktop needs are currently being met by an eleven year old iMac.
That was in the context... there won't be a new Mini but instead a modular Mac Pro.
... and you sound a little like someone else - modesty includes cost-performance and after 11-years you're due for a shot in the arm.
So Bloomberge reporting convergence of IOS and macOS is on the way.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...have-plan-to-combine-iphone-ipad-and-mac-apps
Probably means Arm Macs in near future as well.
Microsoft now emulating X86 code on Snapdragon mobile processors.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...have-plan-to-combine-iphone-ipad-and-mac-apps
Probably means Arm Macs in near future as well.
Microsoft now emulating X86 code on Snapdragon mobile processors.
allready long time ago ... surface rt .. some people hack to run x86 before.That why intel collibrate with amd ?
This will probably allow Apple to keep the more power hungry Macs on X86 while allowing lower powered Macs with great battery life and not as demanding apps to run on Arm.
iPad Pro will gain greater usefulness.
iPad Pro will gain greater usefulness.
The Windows ARM emulation code is slow though. I can't see Apple wanting it to be a thing which people would load intel macOS apps on.
The ultimate conclusion to this would appear to be an ARM powered mini but I could see that being supplied exclusively off an app store (using Gatekeeper) rather than letting people load whatever they wanted off the web.
An app store solution might allow Apple to take a greater cut of revenue while allowing a cut in the price of the unit itself (or give engineers a higher budget) in a more console style move.
It might also work if Apple decide they want to reintroduce a micro server run off an A12 CPU (for example).
A basic macOS with server.app on board in a unit with lots of drive bays but capable of running apps only from the App store would allow people to get the basics done while not threatening high performance stuff.
Imagine, though, an A12 CPU tied to AMD GPU for video editing off a special version of FCPX?