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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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In my view it’s simply that it’s not a big enough market (and it’s a declining market) for them to bother with.
But it IS ALMOST certainly coming ...... just like plate tectonics , entropy , and the giant glacier on Baffin Island that's heading toward my house
I've had a few Minis over the years, starting with the first 1.42 GHz G4. I currently have a 2012 2.3 i7 and a 2014 2.6, both with 8 GB RAM. The 2012 leaves the 2014 for dead, even though the 2014 has a hybrid drive and the 2012 a 5400 RPM drive.
Apple should either release a significant update or kill it - it's as embarrassing a product as the Mac Pro, which is saying something.
Apple should either release a significant update or kill it - it's as embarrassing a product as the Mac Pro, which is saying something.
You're not running up and down the street with your desktop
You're not sitting on your desktop
You're not lending your desktop to a passenger on the train
You're generally not trashing your desktop for a larger screen
You're not losing your desktop
Some of the reasons people replace smartphones more frequently than desktops. Two different platforms with different internal "buying" clocks. It's not that desktops are declining - people have less reason to frequently replace them thus it appears that it's a depressed market when in-fact it's a stable market that's not fickle - and of course Apple's no longer compelling you to buy a headless desktop so of course a headless desktop is not "cool".
Follow the money ... who does most of the impulsive buying ... who is easily channeled by trends ... who bends easiest to peer pressure ... who has the most disposable (every 2.5 yr cycle) income - Apple loves these folks!!!
The world should march to the beat of the smartphone - NOT!
Mobility equates to wear and exposure - expect sh-t to happen. From a topology standpoint with the current technology it makes perfect sense to have a headless machine embedded in the home doing those "home" things and moving seamlessly to any one of many mobile platforms to go about your day and then return home to "sync" in all manner of ways.
Those "home" things - Lights, music, cameras, storage, calendar events, backup ... not to forget the spreadsheets, video /photo editing, music creation and joy from being ergonomically situated.
This is what works now - that's good enough for me.
You're not sitting on your desktop
You're not lending your desktop to a passenger on the train
You're generally not trashing your desktop for a larger screen
You're not losing your desktop
Some of the reasons people replace smartphones more frequently than desktops. Two different platforms with different internal "buying" clocks. It's not that desktops are declining - people have less reason to frequently replace them thus it appears that it's a depressed market when in-fact it's a stable market that's not fickle - and of course Apple's no longer compelling you to buy a headless desktop so of course a headless desktop is not "cool".
Follow the money ... who does most of the impulsive buying ... who is easily channeled by trends ... who bends easiest to peer pressure ... who has the most disposable (every 2.5 yr cycle) income - Apple loves these folks!!!
The world should march to the beat of the smartphone - NOT!
Mobility equates to wear and exposure - expect sh-t to happen. From a topology standpoint with the current technology it makes perfect sense to have a headless machine embedded in the home doing those "home" things and moving seamlessly to any one of many mobile platforms to go about your day and then return home to "sync" in all manner of ways.
Those "home" things - Lights, music, cameras, storage, calendar events, backup ... not to forget the spreadsheets, video /photo editing, music creation and joy from being ergonomically situated.
This is what works now - that's good enough for me.
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You think there will be a refresh? Don't have high expectations...
Fall is fast approaching, still no solid information on MAC-Mini upgrade...it has been all about iPad and iPhone...
How much solid information has there ever been on any Apple / Mac upgrade?
At least there were always some speculations.Right now, except for the Macbook Air or whatever it will be called, nothing else.
I also do think, that Apple will speed bump the actual 2017 iMacs. Maybe next year with 9th generation of CPUs.
I also do think, that Apple will speed bump the actual 2017 iMacs. Maybe next year with 9th generation of CPUs.
My 2012 mini died, I have a working apple Thunderbolt Display. I don't wanna buy the 2014 mini as rumors say maybe a fall update. What are my options to continue to employ the Thunderbolt Display?
That's a lot of messages...no one knows if a new Mac mini is coming so why speculating?
I'm very surprised that anyone at Apple Inc. haven't shared anything here. They are good at keeping their stuff secret, apparently.
I'm very surprised that anyone at Apple Inc. haven't shared anything here. They are good at keeping their stuff secret, apparently.
The only sharing Apple does is to their investors, and that's focused on the money makers, not the computers. I can understand, and almost excuse, extreme product-roadmap secrecy in a hot commercial market like phones, tablets, and, to a certain extent, laptops. However, I would bet that few, if any, in the desktop industry are watching Apple's planned moves on the desktop. Secrecy there is only hurting the customer base for those products because we cannot plan for the future. Ten years ago (or more) we could plan based on trust that Apple would continue to roll out updated desktop systems. Secrecy then didn't really cause a problem. Now that many customers in the desktop-users base no longer trust Apple to find it's headless-desktop "ass" with both hands, much less put out good products in this category, secrecy is Apple's foe.
That said, I don't expect them to change. Secrecy is part of their mystique and, aside from thinness and adoration of the masses, something Apple management just loves.
You can connect the thunderbolt display to any PC, that has a (mini)displayport connection.
You must have missed this story....
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/07/11/apple-product-updates-fall-kuo/
Mac Mini Refresh, New Low-Cost Notebook, Apple Watches With Larger Displays and More Coming This Fall
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Kuo didn't have a lot of information to share on the Mac mini, but he says a processor upgrade is expected. The Mac mini has not been updated for more than 1,300 days, aka over 3 and a half years. It's not clear if additional upgrades will be included, such as a redesigned chassis, but at least some kind of refresh is on the horizon.
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I have been very skeptical about whether there will be a new Mini, and even if there is, I doubt that it will be anything I want. But, you know what?... It's summer, there are there other things to do. Why not just relax for a few weeks and see what happens?
Correct, could be days, months or years....... but the new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming.
That’s what I mean. Two possibilities, both just as likely to tickle this thread. .
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I have no information other than the rumours. But the expectation has been raised by rumours. So, if there is a release, expectations are high for new mini specs. If there is no release ...
Of course, it's only chatter, but there has been more mention of the Mac Mini even in passing by Apple and others of late than in years so it adds weight that something is coming.
That said, I suspect that the there is little being said as the upgrade is going to be underwhelming, a processor upgrade is most likely the only change. Had there been anything more such as a new form factor or significant changes to the internals there would likely be more info coming through.
It's too bad Apple won't partner with Intel to make a NUC that runs MacOS. Sort of a sanctioned Hackintosh.
Obviously Intel cares more about Mini PCs than Apple.
Intel has released forty NUCs in the time since Apple stopped updating the Mac Mini.
Obviously Intel cares more about Mini PCs than Apple.
Intel has released forty NUCs in the time since Apple stopped updating the Mac Mini.
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It should work on current Thunderbolt 3 Macs with the Apple TB3-to-TB2 adapter. It might work on PCs with Thunderbolt (there are a few) but not DisplayPort/MiniDP.
The new Mac Mini will almost certainly feature a Thunderbolt 4 port between the optical Unicorn interface and the magnetic Mr Fusion connector.
No, you can't - the plug may physically fit but it won't work. You can only connect a Thunderbolt display to a Thunderbolt port.
People get confused: You can connect a DisplayPort display (or various adapters) to a Thunderbolt 1/2 port on a computer, and the port will switch to legacy DisplayPort output mode - but that doesn't work in reverse. Also, the Thunderbolt protocol carries display data in DisplayPort format, but that doesn't mean that a Thunderbolt port can receive DisplayPort electrical signals. Also, it doesn't help that the 27" Apple LED Cinema display looks almost identical to the Thunderbolt display, but is actually a DisplayPort device (That's probably why Apple kept both displays on the market for some time while they were still selling non-Thunderbolt Macs).
No, you can’t. You can only use it with a device that has Thunderbolt.
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The Kuo report states the refresh is expected this year.
I need a quad i7, with iGPU to drive a 4K @ 60Hz screen.
I want other things, like TB3, 8GB RAM minimum and user upgradeable (or at least don't gouge on adding soldered in RAM).
But I can live with just the quad and graphics upgrade.
It shows a company’s culture - no one wants to be a fool to take responsibility.