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Will mini be exempt from Chinese tariff, like AppleWarch?
I wish both sides would publish online lists of this stuff.
A $1000 mini with 8gB of ram and a 5000rpm spinner/hybrid drive is far more palatable than the same specs at $1100 plus tax.
I expect at least a modicum of bang for my buck.
Will new Minis run High Sierra, or will I be forced to work around the bugs of Mojave .0.0?
Seems to take Apple up to .0.5 to.0.6 to get a stable OS version.
5 to 8 months in OS he'll ought to be worth a substantial discount to early adopters.
 
It has almost nothing in common with the iMac Pro or Mac Pro, and almost zero crossover use cases. No one says, well I really need a Mac Pro, but I can’t quite afford it so I’ll buy a tricked out mini.
You're right. Who could possibly use a beefy little machine? What idiots would prefer THAT form factor/power per $/etc... over all the other options?






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Just because you cannot fathom the appeal, does not mean it doesn't exist. With TB3, it would be even better
 
AppleTV and Home Pod don't appear to be home runs technologically, but the software and content side of things is more important in this case. There isn't a compelling argument for buying one of these while Apple continues to take baby steps in the world of buying in TV shows and lets Siri languish having long relinquished its technological lead due to a relative lack of investment. They can't even claim to be the best but priced too high for one pockets as per iPhone.

Services are also increasingly important to Apple but iCloud has a fight on up against Office 365 which includes 1Tb of storage plus industry standard software while the basic allocation of storage is severely stingy.
IMHO, Apple needs to sink some serious money and talent into Siri in order to be able to make it what it could and should be. The lack of candor and tangible proof that Apple is tackling Siri’s shortcomings drives me a little bonkers considering it is a linchpin for several products. I really hope Apple gets their act together soon.

I have subscribed to Office 365 for 5 years and it is an excellent value for what you get, including OneDrive. Apple has quite a bit of work to do to make it as usueful or competitive with Office 365. Right now iWork and 5GB is paltry and pathetic.
 
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I abhor the touch bar. And face recognition. There. I said it. F keys and fingerprints work just fine.
I like the Touch Bar quite a bit and Touch ID saves me tangible amounts of time on a daily basis (lots of updates, installs and logging in to secure sites as part of my job). That being said, I do hope Apple releases a 15” MacBook with just Touch ID and Function keys for those that want a larger screen without the Touch Bar. It’s time for at least Touch ID to move down to the MacBook series. A quad-core 15w CPU, decent RAM, cooling and display would probably find quite a few buyers...
 
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haha. At least you should said ..the fastest disk is ram disk. Yes, i'm using it also in imac. Better to allocate the speed to something usefull :p

This is what I was saying that you ignored last time. 20+ years ago, ram disks were great. Today caching algorithms are so good you need to trust them and let them use your memory rather than setting up your own ram disks.
 
This is what I was saying that you ignored last time. 20+ years ago, ram disks were great. Today caching algorithms are so good you need to trust them and let them use your memory rather than setting up your own ram disks.
The right word sir, rarely people understand how the usage ramdisk like compiling, scractch disk for adobe. Ssd is awesome,but the time ssd not yet prime. Ram disk is the best choice.
 
What would be the point? I agree that Office 365 and OneDrive are very nice, I use it myself. So just install it on your Mac and be happy, why does Apple need to duplicate this themselves?

Apple's services proposition can be different but they have to be value for money. They can't offer an office suite to match Office 365 for sheer power and ubiquity but

Some of the iCloud storage tiers are a bit stingy and the service has been improved a lot but they could find something extra with what they offer. I suggest their content streaming service but the aside from the music it's still in very early stages.
 
What would be the point? I agree that Office 365 and OneDrive are very nice, I use it myself. So just install it on your Mac and be happy, why does Apple need to duplicate this themselves?
What would be the point of paying to install Office? The new Mac Mini, that is almost certainly coming, will come with iWork already loaded and ready to go. It is more than adequate for the average Joe or Jill.

I paid for iWork (which came on a CD-ROM) to install on my Mac Mini back in the days when it did not come as standard, and I use it all the time.

An acquaintance had a spare licenced copy of Office, which I also installed, and used for a bit, but once I got used to iWork and enjoyed its simplicity I stopped using Office. Sure it has more features than iWork, but I can do without them and the added complexity.

iWork has improved over the years. Pages opens Word documents, and can export documents in Word format. I won't be installing Office on the MacBook Air I acquired recently.
 
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What would be the point of paying to install Office? The new Mac Mini, that is almost certainly coming, will come with iWork already loaded and ready to go. It is more than adequate for the average Joe or Jill.

I paid for iWork (which came on a CD-ROM) to install on my Mac Mini back in the days when it did not come as standard, and I use it all the time.

An acquaintance had a spare licenced copy of Office, which I also installed, and used for a bit, but once I got used to iWork and enjoyed its simplicity I stopped using Office. Sure it has more features than iWork, but I can do without them and the added complexity.

iWork has improved over the years. Pages opens Word documents, and can export documents in Word format. I won't be installing Office on the MacBook Air I acquired recently.
office is a must sir .:p
 
I used ClarisWorks (which later became AppleWorks) for over 10 years and did IT support for an office full of Macs that used it during many of those years until we switched to Windows in 2000. I still used my Mac with AppleWorks until 2003 when I got Office X for it in 2003 and gradually migrated my files. I still have a large number of legacy AppleWorks files and its a shame that Apple decided to stop supporting the format in iWork, but at least LibreOffice can still open them.

I'm sure that iWork could meet the needs of many people, but I'm not interested at this point. And you have to wonder if Apple will do the same thing they did with AppleWorks eventually. Whether you like it or not, MS Office the the standard for the business world and that's not going to change anytime soon. $70/year for the personal edition of Office 365 is more than reasonable IMO, especially considering the 1TB of OneDrive storage they include.

If iWork meets you needs that's great. And LibreOffice is also a very nice free option. No argument with your choice. But suggesting that Office is only for "some professional types" is absurd. In 2016 Microsoft said there were 1.2 billion Office users.
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Some of the iCloud storage tiers are a bit stingy

You could certainly make that argument. You will quickly out-grow the free 5gb plan by just backing up your phone. I have the 50gb plan which meets my needs and only costs $12/year. A stand-alone 50gb MS OneDrive plan costs $24/year. Apple doesn't have a 1TB iCloud plan but the 2TB plan is $120/year.

For backup, I have 4 computers with about 8tb on Backblaze for $200/year.
 
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What would be the point of paying to install Office? The new Mac Mini, that is almost certainly coming, will come with iWork already loaded and ready to go. It is more than adequate for the average Joe or Jill.

I paid for iWork (which came on a CD-ROM) to install on my Mac Mini back in the days when it did not come as standard, and I use it all the time.

An acquaintance had a spare licenced copy of Office, which I also installed, and used for a bit, but once I got used to iWork and enjoyed its simplicity I stopped using Office. Sure it has more features than iWork, but I can do without them and the added complexity.

iWork has improved over the years. Pages opens Word documents, and can export documents in Word format. I won't be installing Office on the MacBook Air I acquired recently.
Completely agree. I only use MS Office at work, I have never felt I was missing anything when using iWork at home. But even for work, Keynote is a much better application than Powerpoint. Whenever I do a presentation I always use Keynote because you can do so much more with it compared to Powerpoint.
 
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I would never pay rent for software. That includes Microshits' Office. If I had a job which required Office and nothing else, maybe, but that is never going to happen.
With my hatred for Microsoft expanding by the year, nothing else would make me want to rent/buy their software any more.
I have never used iWorks, at least from what I remember. Outside of university courses I never used any "Office" type of program for anything serious. The rare time I have to use something on my Windows 8.1/XP systems I use OpenOffice.

My question is, is the new Mac Mini coming this year, or is it just wishful thinking?
 
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You're right. Who could possibly use a beefy little machine? What idiots would prefer THAT form factor/power per $/etc... over all the other options?


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Just because you cannot fathom the appeal, does not mean it doesn't exist. With TB3, it would be even better

This pic is posted dozens of times in this thread... each and every time without context... and I am not sure why. What does it prove? That it's useful? Guess what, a rack of RPis is useful too.

The power per $ of the mini doesn't exist anymore. That ended in 2012. People have moved on from Xserve. So I'm not really sure how relevant the mac mini rack pic actually is... other than Apple porn for mini fans (which I am).
 
I'm not really sure how relevant the mac mini rack pic actually is

It's relevant in terms of "form-factor" and represents one of many optimum cluster configurations ... in this sense I think members are saying they "want" this flexibility going forward and appreciate how nicely it compresses. I also think the Mini puts the NUC in a lesser light in terms of a comprehensive system - this affords great flexibility with its application.

I don't think it needs to relate to horsepower or performance per cm. or cu ft..
 
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