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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming
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Nobody has said they will only offer pro specs.
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Again, this doesn't make any sense at all. How exactly do you explain "we all know apple hates macOS"?
Macs run macOS. A Mac mini will not run iOS. Such a product would be differently named if it were to exist.
Wow, what a relief to finally see in black and white—from Apple’s own regulatory filing—that the mini is certainly (finally) coming. Can’t wait to see what form this refresh takes.
I wish the mods would put this thread out of its misery next Tuesday. Like all the other models in the lineup, a new thread can be started looking forward to the refresh of the 2018 models. That thread will start a couple minutes after those who had unrealistic expectations realize Apple has failed them again.
I wish the mods would put this thread out of its misery next Tuesday. Like all the other models in the lineup, a new thread can be started looking forward to the refresh of the 2018 models. That thread will start a couple minutes after those who had unrealistic expectations realize Apple has failed them again.
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Why?
New Mac Minis will almost certainly continue to come almost eternally for the foreseeable future, albeit less frequently than in days of yore, thus this thread is perpetual for the time being at least.
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I think it makes more sense to start new threads for new topics. For the last year at least, this thread has mostly been a cesspool of negativity, I’d love to see a stake driven through its heart. The new mini was coming for years, now it’s here. The title won’t even make sense once the new mini is released.
Waiting for the 2019 mini can start next Tuesday (even though the next update won’t be until 2020 or 2021). That’s the way the new refreshes are tracked for the other models.
Just my preference, it doesn’t really matter much. But to me, the title’s sarcasm has worn thin and is no longer on point after the mini is updated.
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Existing chassis and port array, just with an updated chipset (including TB3), and a quad-core option, is all I need.
Should help keep costs down too.
The fact that the Mac Mini product code (A1347) appears in the Eurasian filing suggests that:
1. The 2014 Mini shape will continue into the 2018 generation with a full refresh on all SKUs.
2. One or more 2014 SKUs linger for a bit longer (sheer insanity of course as I'm sure Intel will be discontinuing those CPUs very soon).
Theorising here, due to the age of the 2014 I think any upgrade is going to be seen as a massive spec boost even if it turns out to be merely updated parts - using the same components as the 13" Macbook Pro.
Do existing models with an upgrade to macOS Mojave appear to count as 'new models'?
The A1932 has already been mentioned earlier in the summer alongside a total of 5 laptops registered by Apple. A1931, A1932, A1988, A1989 and A1990. The A1989 and A1990 were revealed to be the 13" and 15" Macbook Pro with Touch Bar. It's generally assumed that the A1931 is the 12" Macbook with the A1988 as the non touch bar Macbook Pro 13". This leaves A1932 as the Macbook Air replacement.
The thing is, none of these appear to be continuations of existing models and I suspect internal reconfigurations of the Macbook Pro design (more battery capacity) are responsible for us getting the A1989 and A1990 models. I think for laptops a bigger battery would appear to be a must due to higher power draw from the multicore models.
The additional question mark here is over the fate of the nominal A1988 which would have been the 2018 non touch bar MacBook Pro 13" but Apple have not released a suitable replacement CPU. Here are my thoughts:
A1931: 12" Macbook - Amber Lake i5-8200Y
A1932: 13" Macbook - Whiskey Lake i5-8265U
A1988: 15" Macbook - could be a variety of combinations including adding a dGPU to i5-8265U.
Mac Mini could continue with the old case design, but a Pro unit that outgrows the 'classic' case design could emerge - one made for the 'professionals' that Apple have named.
A1993 could be the Mac Mini Pro and speculation has been rife in here but here are some provisos:
A1481: 2013 Mac Pro appears to continue with a Mojave update so we're not looking at that level of spec (or price).
A1862: iMac Pro (using Xeon W) obviously continues.
A1993 is situated close enough to the pre-existing Macbook Pro (with touchbar) that I think we could see it be an energy efficient, quiet model with a little more beef than the regular Mini, so needing a redesigned case?
a. Look towards the 15" Macbook Pro or 15" Macbook - perhaps a 45w class CPU with dGPU as well. Could Apple be plotting to use the 65w i5-8305g - which has a version with Vega WX workstation graphics? Could such a CPU be used in a low cost 15" Macbook to share the costs?
b. Breaking the TDP budget of the existing Mac Mini, especially with extra cores and possibly a dGPU to contend with?
c. Filling the low end headless gap ahead of potentially a reorganisation of the iMac line?
d. Adopting the T2 CPU which might be problematic in the existing Mini?
e. Likely to be influenced look-wise by data centre owners like Mac Mini Colo and from people who might like to use it as a powerful home cinema under the TV box.
Is it a Mac Mini Pro, Mac, Mac Pro Mini? xMac?
A1418 and A1419 could continue as externally unchanged iMacs with spec bumps and the 27" still capable of allowing user replaceable RAM.
The 21.5" and 27" iMacs get consecutive model numbers: A1418 and A1419
The two Touch Bar Macbook Pros get consecutive model numbers: A1989 and A1990.
There are two likely desktop SKUs A2115 and A2116 - similar but different enough to get different model numbers. They could actually be redesigned 'Pro' iMacs (using Xeon E) in 2 different screen sizes for example (eg 24" and 27", but more likely to be 21.5" and 27") but using similar internals.
No sarcasm at all when GabrieleR started the thread. Just a stated opinion.
When the new Minis come next week then we reset the clock in this thread as another Mini will almost certainly be coming.
Sure. Which, as the years went by without an update, morphed into the “but as we all know, the Mac mini is almost certainly coming” sarcasm-drenched sentiment that has pervaded this thread for months. As of Tuesday, it’s no longer applicable, or valid.
Just my thoughts. I know I’ll stop posting here if a relevant thread about the next upgrade starts up, as is typical with all the other models. (Hopefully, “Waiting for the 2018 MacBook” will become obsolete on Tuesday as well; I’m really looking forward to new Y-series models. Amber Lake is looking like a nice bump.)
By your logic this thread hasn't been applicable or valid since October 16, 2014, when the new Mac mini came. The 2014 "update" (in quotes for obvious reasons). Yet here you are posting in it.
No, by my logic this thread would have been closed in 2014 and a new thread opened, which we all would have been posting in for the last four years.By your logic this thread hasn't been applicable or valid since October 16, 2014, when the new Mac mini came. The 2014 "update" (in quotes for obvious reasons). Yet here you are posting in it.
Your post begs the question though: what purpose was served by continuing the 2013 thread through the 2014 refresh?
Caio then...... you are free to start a new thread if you so desire, but GabrieleR's immortal thread will almost certainly continue eternally for the time being.
The problem I see with force-closing this thread, even if a 2018 model is released on the 30th, is that a lot of the concepts discussed here may still be relevant to the 2019 models and beyond. This is probably the reason the mods didn't close it in 2014, especially considering how disappointing that release was.
Perhaps this thread has run its course though, and we will again see yearly Mac mini refreshes with competitive, up-to-date hardware and upgradable RAM. Only Apple can decide whether or not to close this ugly chapter in the Mac mini's history, and we may not know for sure what that decision is until 2019 or 2020...
I don’t see the point in idolizing or worshipping at the altar of a thread lol. Like I said, if there’s a relevant thread that discusses the next upgrade, I’ll post there. If this ends up being the thread where the next mini is discussed, that’s fine too. As I’ve already said more than once, it doesn’t much matter. But this thread wil have run it’s course as of Tuesday, when the update that’s been expected to come finally arrives. Unless there’s no update, that is.
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All the other models have a waiting for 20xx model and it seems to work just fine. I tend to be pragmatic, and to me it makes sense to delineate upgrade threads when new updates happen.
Come to think of it, maybe I’m wrong... What if the iMac thread went back to 1998. Wouldn’t it be awesome to have USB hate, missing floppy drive and where’s my pro-level parallel port posts being quoted daily? Fun!
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No
#1 - It's not official yet
#2 - There will be LOTS of discussion about the mini in here, IF it gets updated
#3 - You can always just NOT click on this thread
#4 - NEVER FORGET!!!!
With the crap that Apple has put us thru the last couple of years, people need a good release and reminder. I HOPE an updated Mini is everything we want, but as others have pointed out, a thread detailing our desires is something I enjoy and a big reason I come back to this thread.
#1—model A1347 is the mini. It’s listed in the Eurasian paperwork that Apple just submitted, so unless they’re trolling us via foreign regulatory filings, that’s about as official as it gets, pre-announcement
#2—I’m sure there will be, why not? My point is that there’s a reason new threads are started, and all the other models seem to make do with a “waiting for the 2019 mini”-style thread. Do we really need to rehash how Apple dropped the quad core in 2014 for the umpteen millionth time?
#3—As I said, if there’s a relevant thread where users discuss the next mini, I’m all for it and will be happy to abandon this thread.
#4—Life’s too short to wallow in the past. Why not be happy that the day many—including you iirc—said would never come is here. Apple is updating the mini; the hope of this thread is fulfilled. Our long (inter)national nightmare is over.
The mini will never be everything “we” want, because people want different things. The guy that wanted dual Xeons in his $3,000 “Mac mini Pro” is going to be disappointed, and so is the one that was “praying” for an A11-based mini under $299.
My hope is there will be a constructive thread where users discuss the shortcomings of the new mini and what they want in the next mini. If that’s here, fine... but this thread has so much baggage and negativity weighing it down, I’m not sure it’s possible here.
I really hope there will be a place that’s both critical and constructive. That, I’m interested in. If it’s just an endless parade of old, tired complaints where people live in the past and ceaselessly continue to whine and complain about how for six long years they were so badly wronged—along with the occasional post about what the next mini could or should be—well, that’s something I’m quite a bit less interested in.
Is it possible to have the former but not the latter? Might be asking too much; some just feed on negativity. But when the content gets buried in the noise, that doesn’t do anyone any good.
Hopefully Apple gives us an awesome update to get things going in a new, positive direction. Maybe we can at least agree on that?
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You're right. Future posters in this thread will definitely want to relive 2014 by quoting posts like these on a daily basis.
The day of disappointment has finally arrived
can't ***** believe SSD isn't standard.
They gimped the base model. Hence the lower price.
2 years for this!!!!
[doublepost=1540438071][/doublepost]But seriously, I don't think this is the type of thread where quoting old and irrelevant posts is going to become a problem...
One can hope! Hopefully a minimum of new and irrelevant posts as well lol.
Obviously a lot of what most want will be coming, just due to the fact we’ll have current components. New quads, Thunderbolt 3, 4k@60, 32GB max RAM. There are a few things I’m pretty sure will be there, like USB 3.0 type A ports, HDMI, audio out and socketed RAM (fingers crossed). If I get that mini, I’m ecstatic. If the RAM is soldered I’m somewhat less happy.
I already assume the SSD will be non-upgradeable because Apple hasn’t shown any indication that they’re moving away from their custom controller with NVRAM chips soldered onto the logic board when it comes to storage. There could be space for an internal drive, but TB3 is the ideal way to attach additional SSD or high capacity HDDs or RAID arrays, in addition to eGPUs, 5K monitors, 10 gigabit Ethernet adapters, etc.
That’s the mini I’m expecting (using the 28W quad-cores from the latest 13” MBP). No it won’t be cheap—Apple won’t stop being Apple. We’ll soon see what Apple brings to the table. I’m hopeful we’re going to have a lot to be happy about.
I consider yearly mac mini updates to be pretty much impossible.
Right now the best pc in the size and shape of a macmini would be a dell 7060 micro.
It has an intel 8700t cpu it can do 2 sticks of 16gb ddr4 ram total of 32gb ram
It has a spot for nvme2 ssd and 2.5 inch ssd.
With a 3 year warranty
You can buy a refurbished model with 3 year warranty 1 stick of 16gb ram and a 256gb pcie m.2 nvme ssd i7 8700t cpu six core for only 754 with coupons more like 700 add 1 stick of 16gb ram for 150 you are at 850 add a 1tb ssd for 150 you are at 1000. This machine would be good for 3 years easy.
My point is this... If apple does not do a good upgrade a lot of us wont be bothered. I have tons of gear.
maybe 20 pc's due to lots of gpu mining. I run linux I run windows I run macos. I run 2 android tables a few samsung phones and an ipad.
No iphone
No newer ipad as my choice why is that? the 2014 mac mini update turned me off apple big time.
So they lost me for 3-6 phones
1 for the wife
1 for me
1 for my business all samsung android. plus I do replace phones so 6
the lost me for a new iPad
I have an android tablet with the densest pixel screen made.
Yeah I have 4 working mac minis = 3x 2012 and 1x 2014
Yeah I have 1 iPad mini 3 = 2015
yeah I have 1 working macbook pro = 2012
but that 2014 mac mini update means
I have 2 lenovo m700 tiny with 1tb ssds and 32gb ram
3 samsung phones zero iPhones
replaced the ipad mini with a huawei mediapad 5 8.4 inch which has a clearer picture and lots of add-on storage.
So that garbage 2014 mac mini update cost apple 5 iPhone contracts and phones
2 less mac mini purchases.
no mac book pro purchase. a minimum of 10-12k in purchases.
And if they knock the mini out of the park they won't update it.
And I no longer gamble but they are not selling
a mac mini
with a 6 core i7 intel
with a 240gb nvme m.2 ssd
with a 1tb ssd
with 32gb ram
with 3 year warranty
for 1000
which I can order from dell and add the parts and have by next week.
I so want to say @%#&$@(!* apple and Tim Cook and Jonathan Ive.
There I said it. So if the new mac mini does not at least approach the dell optiplex 7060 micro I am done.
I see we have an outbreak of Pre-Mini Tension.
Be cool, dudes. Only another 5 days, 8 hours, and 21 minutes.
Be cool, dudes. Only another 5 days, 8 hours, and 21 minutes.
Apple isn’t a commodity PC supplier and Apple products don’t sell very well to those interested in that type of product. Similarly, they don’t sell $50, $100, or $250 phones. Or $300 notebook PCs. They’re more than happy to leave the low margin market to others.
What they lost from you they made back selling one iMac Pro. You’re simply not their target market.
You might as well place your Dell order today.
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