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It would've been nice to see Lightroom Classic working rather than the CC version, but good to see PS working.

it'll be interesting to see if the newly compiled binaries will work with older legacy plugin's like my Nik filters.
Umm, they did away with LR Classic. Since Catalina LR Classic’s 32 bit installer does not work. I’m sure its not much work to update that 32 bit to 64bit.

Now they’re trying to shove a $10/mo sub down our throats
 
At the end of that event, they talked about ARM Macs coming soon. While saying this, they had the Mac Mini box on the screen behind him. While it's likely the dev box people mentioned above, I'm crossing all my fingers it's an ARM Mac Mini going retail. People keep talking about an ARM MacBook being the 1st ARM Mac, but I'm hoping for the Mini.
Makes sense for the Mini to be the test case for desktop transition, because it is the lowest seller in their desktop range so any implementation mistakes will affect the minimum number of users.

Though the ARM processors have now been well tested and integrated by Apple in other devices, and I would be surprised if the transition caused any major issues.
 
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I am guessing they used the Mac Mini for the DTK because it offers the most flexibility for developers since you can add your own display and peripherals.
 
I am guessing they used the Mac Mini for the DTK because it offers the most flexibility for developers since you can add your own display and peripherals.

And because it is the smallest destkop format, Apple has in their sleeves (except AppleTV, but that is a different thing) and portable.

Could you imagine, they would make DTKs based on Mac Pros? I mean, yeah, they didt that in the past, but today? At Apple they also look at postage fee. And Tim Cook is trying to save money where he can.
 
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And because it is the smallest destkop format, Apple has in their sleeves (except AppleTV, but that is a different thing) and portable.

Could you imagine, they would make DTKs based on Mac Pros? I mean, yeah, they didt that in the past, but today? At Apple they also look at postage fee. And Tim Cook is trying to save money where he can.

Well the Intel DTK needed to be in a Mac Pro case because while the mainboard was much smaller than the PowerPC one, it was larger than anything that would fit in an iMac or a Mac Mini chassis plus Pentium 4's ran very hot so they needed a case that could handle a large CPU cooling fan.

The A12Z is fine with passive cooling and being an SoC it needs a very small mainboard. So the Mac Mini chassis is more than adequate.
 
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Lightroom Classic is the version that's not like an iPad app. Classic is 64bit
 
These mini ARMs are to be sent back so would Apple have a production mini to replace them? One with TB4 ports?
 
These mini ARMs are to be sent back so would Apple have a production mini to replace them? One with TB4 ports?

Little bit early for Thunderbolt 4 - might even be too early for USB4 if the story about availability for end of this year still stands up. That particular standard makes a kind of sense if Apple can aim high and look progressive.

Thunderbolt 3 would be fine if Apple can manage it for Rev A first wave devices.
 
Little bit early for Thunderbolt 4 - might even be too early for USB4 if the story about availability for end of this year still stands up. That particular standard makes a kind of sense if Apple can aim high and look progressive.

Thunderbolt 3 would be fine if Apple can manage it for Rev A first wave devices.
I don't think there are technical reasons for not including Thunderbolt 3, and given how much the latest Macs depend on Thunderbolt for external connections and how much Apple has been pushing this standard from the very beginning, I also don't think there are non-technical reasons to not include it.
 
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Given that I (like many consumers, I guess) expect the best part of a decade out of a desktop, a couple or three years between updates would be fine....
How does the frequency of updates change how many years you can use your new computer? Answer, it doesn't. What we can safely assume is that whatever will be released ten years down the line will be a large step up. But the number of intermediate steps they release along the way does not change how big the overall ten year step will be.
 
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How does the frequency of updates change how many years you can use your new computer? Answer, it doesn't. What we can safely assume is that whatever will be released ten years down the line will be a large step up. But the number of intermediate steps they release along the way does not change how big the overall ten year step will be.
for me developer ,3 must have backup plan new laptop
 
October will be two years since the last update. Some people think a new Apple Silicon Mini is coming soon, I am not convinced though. ;)


 
October will be two years since the last update. Some people think a new Apple Silicon Mini is coming soon, I am not convinced though. ;)


Maybe not soon enough for some, but the new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming.
 
Of course it doesn't. Given that I expect to get a good few years out of a desktop, I don't give a hoot about frequent updates.
I agree, but why did you then originally say "a couple or three years between updates would be fine"? Or did I misunderstand you, were you saying that having infrequent updates wouldn't be a problem rather than that you preferred them?
 
With the transition to Apple Silicon, if you wait too long then you may not be able to use any of your legacy apps. Apple won't support Rosetta (which gives Intel compatibility) forever. And Rosetta evidently won't support 32-bit apps at all. Granted, this won't matter much to people who use Apple's own apps or mainstream subscription software like Microsoft Office or Adobe CC.

In addition to Windows, I'm running Sierra and Mountain Lion in virtual machines on my 2018 Mini. This lets me continue using over $3000 of legacy CAD, 3d and database software (VectorWorks, Strata 3d, FileMaker Pro). They run much faster in virtual machines than they ever did on my old Macs.
 
I agree, but why did you then originally say "a couple or three years between updates would be fine"? Or did I misunderstand you, were you saying that having infrequent updates wouldn't be a problem rather than that you preferred them?
As I said, I don't give a hoot. That the new Mac Mini is almost certainly coming is fine by me.

There are those for whom having the very latest technology is important, for whatever reason. However average Joes and Jills of the world, who hang on to their computers several years, might follow updates with passing interest, but they are only really relevant when the time comes to consider buying a new one.

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