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An 8GB MacBook Pro is still serving me fine in 2020, and I expect will continue to do so.

MacRumors readers are really not the representative sample of the computing needs of the majority of the population, which is why some of the hand-wringing about the chip transition is so funny. The majority of people are going to buy a new MacBook Air now and yeah, it'll be snappier than their old one, but they're not going to notice anything else weird about it.

I definitely would encourage RAM over the other upgrades if you can, but the idea 8GB will kill your machine's appeal is as goofy as the people who are bemoaning their current machines being "obsolete". If you're still doing work on them, they're not obsolete.

(Also, I've got a long enough memory to remember when 'modern' Apple was shipping machines with 64 and 128MB of RAM when OS X required twice that just for acceptably smooth performance. Once Apple started embedding the RAM they got a lot more reasonable about pricing for upgrades and boosting the minimums.)
And to add insult, Apple soldered that low amount of RAM to the board leaving just one RAM slot for upgrading.
 
And to add insult, Apple soldered that low amount of RAM to the board leaving just one RAM slot for upgrading.
There is no slot for upgrading. The RAM, along with a lot of other stuff is all incorporated in the M1 "system on a chip". You choose what you require from a fairly limited range of options. The 2020 Mac Mini @ $699 (basic) to $1699 (maxed) it is once again the cheapest way to own a Mac...... Attractively enough priced for the average Joe or Jill, powerful enough for many pros. Dunno about the average dilettante though.
 
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There is no slot for upgrading. The RAM, along with a tot of other stuff is all incorporated in the M1 "system on a chip". You choose what you require from a fairly limited range of options. The 2020 Mac Mini @ $699 (basic) to $1699 (maxed) it is once again the cheapest way to own a Mac...... Attractively enough priced for the average Joe or Jill, powerful enough for many pros. Dunno about the average dilettante though.
After reading the benchmark between MacBook Air (intel vs arm), I am very impressed.
They opened EVERY app (50) including FCPX with 8gb version........... 😬 and the fans didn’t even start on the arm.
The built-in cpu/gpu/memory must handle apps very well.

As Apple have said, there is no comparison between ghz, the AS macs obviously function much like an iPad, where it just works..... ;)
 
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I'm pretty sure mr.steevo was referring to this:

(Also, I've got a long enough memory to remember when 'modern' Apple was shipping machines with 64 and 128MB of RAM when OS X required twice that just for acceptably smooth performance. Once Apple started embedding the RAM they got a lot more reasonable about pricing for upgrades and boosting the minimums.)
 
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I haven't posted here in a while. I'm finding a Mac Pro Mini to be pretty likely right now. Part binning is why. When Apple brings out the M1X or whatever, there's certainly going to be marginal speed parts. Instead of throwing those away, Apple can use them in a Mac Pro Mini instead. After all, we already have indications that Apple does this because they're not listing any Mhz speed on the new M1 Minis (not to mention using 7 core GPU parts on the M1 MBA)
 
iMac H1 2021 with M1 - maybe new design for the low end iMac
New iPad Pro first half of year maybe March with M1 type SoC.

Then we wait for next round of Macs with M1X - the kicked for anyone not yet pulling the trigger on a MBA or Mac Mini waiting out how long they’ll be for more powerful desktop/laptops

how many are holding back wondering if the Mac mini will have a more powerful version coming next year?
Mir even wondering if they could do with laptop M1 instead
 
Hi,

i work in an Apple Reseller and like many of you i'm waiting for the mini 2013 refresh.

From monday the two major Apple suppliers in Italy are suddenly and completely out of stock of minis. I know that this happen from time to time, but the timing is no coincidence.

Trust me, a new mini is coming next week, or at least we have solid evidence to believe it.
Told you so.
And so you did, seven years ago today.
 
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how many are holding back wondering if the Mac mini will have a more powerful version coming next year?
Mir even wondering if they could do with laptop M1 instead
I am waiting for the space gray M1X mini.

I think the M1 mini is just the low-end option, and there will be an M1X (or whatever it’s called) space gray mini that replaces the 4-port space gray Intel mini. The current Intel mini is capable of handling a 65W processor, and it looks like the M1 is really a 15W chip. There’s a lot of thermal headroom available for a much more powerful chip inside - which is also why the fans in the current M1 mini almost never turn on. It doesn’t need to.
 
Ya, this being just the introductory low end, minimum spec and featured, low cost base model, I rather wait to just get the middle of the road model with a couple more ports and whatnot. I wont need the high end Pro model, the increased cost and the ARM chips capabilities will allow for its specs to be way, way overkill for anything I’ll ever need it for.
 
The thing I'd really miss on the current M1 offering are the two Thunderbolt ports it lacks. And the space grey colour, of course!
Luckily, my 2018 Mini is still capable enough for what I do, so I can afford to wait for the (hopefully) space grey "Pro" Mini with at least 4 Thunderbolt ports.
 
So that loooong wait for a new mini after 2014 that we went through seems to have paid off. My 2018 is working great after two years, I sold my 2014 when the 2018 came out, and the new 2020 M1 mini seems to have become a mainstream desktop Mac. Remember back before the 2018 release when Tim said those waiting for a new mini will be pleased?
 
The thing I'd really miss on the current M1 offering are the two Thunderbolt ports it lacks. And the space grey colour, of course!
Luckily, my 2018 Mini is still capable enough for what I do, so I can afford to wait for the (hopefully) space grey "Pro" Mini with at least 4 Thunderbolt ports.
There is the theory that the limit has to do with the M1 but I have my doubts. Perhaps Apple figures a Thunderbolt hub for the few people who need the extra ports for what is an entry level machine made more sense.
 
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There is the theory that the limit has to do with the M1 but I have my doubts. Perhaps Apple figures a Thunderbolt hub for the few people who need the extra ports for what is an entry level machine made more sense.
Since the M1 appears to have two TB3 buses it would have been a conscious decision to not add extra hardware to support additional physical ports. The mini is a MacBook Air/Pro minus a display so was a low cost incremental design. Apple added two USB and one ethernet ports so may have exceeded their budget. Possibility that the chips to add extra TB3 ports weren't ready?
 
Yeah I'm holding on to my 2012 until an M1X or M2 model comes out. I just can't imagine being stuck with 16GB of RAM again. I mean it's fine today, but in a few years I know I'll want more, even 24GB would have sufficed for me.

A Mac Mini Pro could be interesting though. Double the high performance CPU cores and GPU cores, allow for 4 LPDDR4X chips (which appear to max out at 12GB each, so could increase the limit up to 48GB) and then do 4 Thunderbolt ports. It'd probably be overkill for my needs, so it might make more sense to wait until the M2, but I really want to upgrade my computer here soon.
 
Since the M1 appears to have two TB3 buses it would have been a conscious decision to not add extra hardware to support additional physical ports. The mini is a MacBook Air/Pro minus a display so was a low cost incremental design. Apple added two USB and one ethernet ports so may have exceeded their budget. Possibility that the chips to add extra TB3 ports weren't ready?
I doubt there weren't the chips as the M1 MacMini has two Thunderbolt / USB 4 ports, two USB-A ports, and an HDMI port while the last Intel Mini had two Thunderbolt 2 ports, four USB 3.0 ports, an HDMI port, and an SDIC slot. I think it was more 'this is an entry level Mac' and so they skimped on the ports.
 
At some point Apple will be introducing MacBooks Pros with 4 USB-C ports - the upper SKU 13" MacBook Pro (perhaps that will be 14" to accommodate and justify a mini-LED display?), the 16" MacBook Pro and ultimately the upper remaining upper SKU Intel Mini look like obvious models to replace.

We might even see a 24" iMac get the change with a 27" iMac/Pro coming after that alongside the Mac Pro.

At this stage it looks set that Apple will be charging directly for the RAM at least in their mobile/'low power' products which is closely integrated into the system to the point where adding RAM afterwards is unpractical. It might similarly be the case for the SSD used in the boot drive to maintain a high quality I/O experience.

I would daresay that the upper SKU Mac mini must be destined to be space grey with 4 proper Thunderbolt 4 ports and potentially better CPU/graphics performance commensurate with whatever is going into the 13" or 14" MacBook Pro with 4 TB4 ports (for the sake of argument).

If the 16" Macbook is going to be the same again but with more CPU cores and enhanced graphics it's hardly a stretch to suggest the rumoured 24" iMac would be capable of pushing a 4.6K retina screen using an SoC that would be capable of up to 16 high performance cores and possibly that many graphics cores.

If Apple are going to be trying to attract professional users then the 'black box' approach of all of the above might not be the most appealing to users who want more modularity in a single box. Perhaps Apple could be waiting until 2022 for DDR5 RAM and PCIe 5.0/Thunderbolt 5 to give a Mac Pro/iMac Pro the kind of boost they would want to see over existing products.
 
Saw Mac Mini described on a store display material for the first time in a long time. They didn't even bother with the 2018 incarnation, which seemed more pro oriented than the previous incarnations. Shops never even bothered to stock them.

Being more consumer friendly in price and specs, it seems that the new 2020 Mac Mini will almost certainly be coming to shop shelves, sooner or later.
 
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