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The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming

The_Interloper said:
There's nothing consumer friendly here, pricing or otherwise. Soldered, non-upgradeable RAM and storage, 4 "high-efficiency" cores which are pointless on a machine that doesn't run on battery and a staggering $200 for a $30 8Gb memory upgrade. Oh, and they've removed two Thunderbolt ports, eGPU support and faster Ethernet options. Really consumer friendly.
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The only valid criticism you make is regarding the obscene cost to upgrade RAM. The rest (eGPU, 10Gig Ethernet, etc.) have no place in an entry level consumer product to begin with. I’ll gladly take the $100 price cut (and a vastly more powerful processor) while “losing” a bunch of superfluous stuff I’d never use in 100 years.

I’ll wait for reviews, but this looks like it could be the first truly great Mac mini since 2012. The 2014 was junk and the 2018 was a Frankenstein-Mini with abysmal graphics that couldn’t drive a 4K display properly (according to pages of complaints on this forum).
 
Megahump6000 said:
The only valid criticism you make is regarding the obscene cost to upgrade RAM. The rest (eGPU, 10Gig Ethernet, etc.) have no place in an entry level consumer product to begin with. I’ll gladly take the $100 price cut (and a vastly more powerful processor) while “losing” a bunch of superfluous stuff I’d never use in 100 years.

I’ll wait for reviews, but this looks to be like the first great Mac mini since 2012. The 2014 was junk and the 2018 was a Frankenstein-Mini with abysmal graphics that couldn’t drive a 4K display properly (according to pages of complaints on this forum).
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Did something force you to choose 10G or eGPU before?
All the display problems are created by Apple (tons of 630 machines are working just fine in m$ ecosystem), why they'd be gone now?
The greatness of 2012 model was, that you could add both ram & storage. Mine is still running Fusion, so there's also TWO internal storages. After that, things has gone bad with macs...
 
Megahump6000 said:
The only valid criticism you make is regarding the obscene cost to upgrade RAM. The rest (eGPU, 10Gig Ethernet, etc.) have no place in an entry level consumer product to begin with. I’ll gladly take the $100 price cut (and a vastly more powerful processor) while “losing” a bunch of superfluous stuff I’d never use in 100 years.

I’ll wait for reviews, but this looks like it could be the first truly great Mac mini since 2012. The 2014 was junk and the 2018 was a Frankenstein-Mini with abysmal graphics that couldn’t drive a 4K display properly (according to pages of complaints on this forum).
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Been driving 4K display’s on mine for the last two years without any issues.
 
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Megahump6000 said:
The only valid criticism you make is regarding the obscene cost to upgrade RAM. The rest (eGPU, 10Gig Ethernet, etc.) have no place in an entry level consumer product to begin with. I’ll gladly take the $100 price cut (and a vastly more powerful processor) while “losing” a bunch of superfluous stuff I’d never use in 100 years.

I’ll wait for reviews, but this looks like it could be the first truly great Mac mini since 2012. The 2014 was junk and the 2018 was a Frankenstein-Mini with abysmal graphics that couldn’t drive a 4K display properly (according to pages of complaints on this forum).
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2018 Mini ( 13, stock RAM) drives my LG 4K display just fine....
 
I am skipping this mini and instead will go for the M1 Air. I need more memory and ports for a desktop.

So... The new Mac mini is almost certainly coming. But not for me this year. Maybe 2021?
 
The_Interloper said:
I'll refer you to what I wrote in this thread.

The new version of Parallels Desktop will not support an x86 VM. It may be able to do emulation, who knows? But that's not an acceptably performant solution.
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There is nothing in "Parallels is also amazed by the news from Microsoft about adding support of x64 applications in Windows on ARM." that definitely supports the idea that Parallels Desktop will not support an x86 VM. In fact the line right before that says "We switched Parallels Desktop to universal binary and optimized its virtualization code; and the version that we are eager to try on these new MacBook Air, Mac mini and MacBook Pro 13″ looks very promising."

University binary means Parallels Desktop will support an x86 VM...on the Intel Macs and they may have written it so that everything that uses x86 code passes through Rosetta 2 on an ARM Mac.
 
saulinpa said:
At least with the Intel architecture this is determined by the number of DP pipes that are fed to the TB controller. The LG 4K is able to pass through a 2nd DP stream to one of its USB-C ports. Even the updated LG 5K doesn't have this feature as far as I know since it uses 2 DP streams to get 5K.
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This is what invalidates the "They don't go into details but sounds like only one monitor is supported on the TB ports" which was supposedly verified by an Apple representative.

If you go for the LG 4k you should by Apple's own webpage be able support two monitors via one of the USB-C ports. Also I have to ask - does nobody use HDMI monitors or do that use that port for something else?
 
Waiting for the more beefed up M chip Mini to replace my 2013 27” iMac. Bought an M1 MBA as I need a laptop now (a nice stop gap for the iMac.)

I am excited to see what they do with the more powerful Macs with the M chip transition including a more powerful Mac Mini.
 
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Megahump6000 said:
Sure, as long as you don't use scaling outside 2x.
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Not seen any issue in my use cases at any sizes. No need to waste time on manufacturing scare stories. This thing works fine. I'm sure a professional designer would want and need to use the LG 5K screen- I have one at my desk at work and it's even better - but honestly this 4K one is fine.
 
Megahump6000 said:
Sure, as long as you don't use scaling outside 2x.
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Scaling is hidden so not sure but looks like system will let you pick a retina resolution regardless if the monitor can take it. Then the hardware does scaling for the final output so normally no noticeable impact.
 
toke lahti said:
Did something force you to choose 10G or eGPU before?
All the display problems are created by Apple (tons of 630 machines are working just fine in m$ ecosystem), why they'd be gone now?
The greatness of 2012 model was, that you could add both ram & storage. Mine is still running Fusion, so there's also TWO internal storages. After that, things has gone bad with macs...
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If the only pleasing model will be one in which you can upgrade RAM and internal storage, you're never going to be happy, honestly. The writing has been on the wall for a decade at this point.
 
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fuchsdh said:
If the only pleasing model will be one in which you can upgrade RAM and internal storage, you're never going to be happy, honestly. The writing has been on the wall for a decade at this point.
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The moaning isn't just here. I watched Apple ARM M1 Macs: Outstanding ARM64 performance, bit should you buy one? and...sigh.

It is effectively complaining about not getting an M1 mac to develop on and the ever popular 30% thing come up (I have to wonder just how out of touch are the complainers who don't know this 30% is effectively the freaking industry standard). Like one of the commenters pointed out it makes sense that Apple would do the same thing that they did with the PowerPC to Intel DTK - only here it would be a replacement ARM Mac.
 
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It is effectively complaining about not getting an M1 mac to develop on and the ever popular 30% thing come up (I have to wonder just how out of touch are the complainers who don't know this 30% is effectively the freaking industry standard).
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Apple's profits for (internal, soldered) ssd is about 500%.
Not to mention that soldered ssd might reduce the computer's lifetime significantly.
 
fuchsdh said:
If the only pleasing model will be one in which you can upgrade RAM and internal storage, you're never going to be happy, honestly. The writing has been on the wall for a decade at this point.
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Well even the "new" MP (2019) has these upgradeable. If the new mini-pro will come and...

This is where Apple could really make a change: with their own silicon, they could finally make a nice desktop computer. Since G4 powermacs.
 
I may be buying one today to use as my AS Mac test machine. I was holding out for a 24" iMac but it might not make sense to buy that as my very first one in case I can't realistically use it the way I use my 27". I can always sell the mini or reuse it for something else if I end up with a 24" iMac.

Also, I just find it funny that this thread about a false rumor of a 2013 mini refresh carried on to today with this many posts, almost the main thread of the mini board.
 
Micky Do said:
How so?
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You have been here a long time. You should know the answer to this. A soldered in ssd dies the gear is now dead. Unless you set up external boot drives with back ups. So you either buy a unit with the smallest internal drive to save money thus forcing you to clutter desk with two external drives. One to boot and one to be a back up. I waited almost 2 years to buy my 2018 because I was annoyed that the imternal boot drive was locked in place.

Most likely I will never have as many pieces of apple gear as I used to have. As a locked down ram and or a locked down ssd are more then I can bear.

The gpu sucking I can live with. But the 2018/2020 locked ssd is annoying.

The newer m1 has 8 or 16gb ram I will most likely not get it due to limits in ram.
 
philipma1957 said:
The newer m1 has 8 or 16gb ram I will most likely not get it due to limits in ram.
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Depends of what use case you are looking at.

This RAM is incredibly fast (on-package, 4266 MHz) and storage is also faster than before. Maybe then paging on SSD isn't as dramatic as before. And 16 GB of RAM should suffice for a wide range of use cases.
 
pldelisle said:
Depends of what use case you are looking at.

This RAM is incredibly fast (on-package, 4266 MHz) and storage is also faster than before. Maybe then paging on SSD isn't as dramatic as before. And 16 GB of RAM should suffice for a wide range of use cases.
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Yeah but I know what I do and use my pc's for 32gb option with a 1tb nvme would have better a sweet spot for me.
I have that with my 2018/2020 model and don't page out much. If I had 16gb I would page out often. As I type on my 2018/2020 mining I am using 15.97 ram I usually use 14-22 ram. So buying a unit that will need to page out simply does not make sense to me. Also I think the new 2020 with 16gb ram and 1tb ssd is more then 1000 I will check. 1299 - 130 discount = 1169 + 80 sales tax = 1249
 
toke lahti said:
Apple's profits for (internal, soldered) ssd is about 500%.
Not to mention that soldered ssd might reduce the computer's lifetime significantly.
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But they aren't even talking about that. They are just going for the 30% and forgetting everything else.
 
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