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all this crap talk about the graphics card is hilarious. The AMD ATI 460M is the best graphics card within apple's thermal limits available on the market. That's pretty much it, end of topic.

Apple did make a lot of mistakes. The GPU is inferior to the competition and apple's thermal limits are ill advised and sub-par!
That's pretty much it, end of topic!

EVEN the desktop version of the card gets smoked by the competition:

http://barefeats.com/sierra_rx480.html
 
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all this crap talk about the graphics card is hilarious. The AMD ATI 460M is the best graphics card within apple's thermal limits available on the market. That's pretty much it, end of topic.

1050ti has the same tdp as the 460m (75 watt), and I'm willing to bet it smokes it. But don't let that stop you from planting those lips firming on that Apple logo
 
1050ti has the same tdp as the 460m (75 watt), and I'm willing to bet it smokes it. But don't let that stop you from planting those lips firming on that Apple logo

...and the Radeon Pro 460 (which is not the 460M, damn you AMD with these confusing names!) has half the TDP, 35W, but presumably the performance of a GTX 965M, which are the same of the 1050M.
what now?
 
...and the Radeon Pro 460 (which is not the 460M, damn you AMD with these confusing names!) has half the TDP, 35W, but presumably the performance of a GTX 965M, which are the same of the 1050M.
what now?

There is no 1050m. The NVidia gpus are all desktop models with lower clock speeds and/or reduced cuda cores.

Where's the tdp you found? I found 75 watt for 460m.
 
There is no 1050m. The NVidia gpus are all desktop models with lower clock speeds and/or reduced cuda cores.

I know that, but I prefer to call it NVIDIA 1050M than to write every time "NVIDIA 1050 for notebook with a lowered speed but almost the same TDP"
:D

Where's the tdp you found? I found 75 watt for 460m.

I found it with a little bit of logic. :D
In the last years Apple always used GPU between 70W-50W, so there is no way it was going to increase that.
Furthermore, directly from AMD webpage.
Operating in a power envelope under 35W, the Radeon Pro 450, 455, and 460 Series graphics processors...

Do not forget that Apple is using AMD Radeon Pro 400. Not AMD Radeon RX 400M.
It's confusing, I know.
:)
 
tech companies are the worst with naming conventions

they're either too dumb to be memorable (hurr durr our TV app is called TV and it's on our box we call TV that hooks to your TV so you can watch TV lol not confusing at all lol)

or they're arcane mumbo jumbo causing pages of arguments between people talking about two different GPUs with virtually the same name.
 
also the 1050m isn't even on the market right now. no matter what we're talking about, ti's not a chip apple has available to them at this point in time.
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Apple did make a lot of mistakes. The GPU is inferior to the competition and apple's thermal limits are ill advised and sub-par!
That's pretty much it, end of topic!

EVEN the desktop version of the card gets smoked by the competition:

http://barefeats.com/sierra_rx480.html
i mean there is a market for thin and light laptops so it's not like apple can perform sorcery
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There is no 1050m. The NVidia gpus are all desktop models with lower clock speeds and/or reduced cuda cores.

Where's the tdp you found? I found 75 watt for 460m.
http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/radeon-pro-400-2016oct27.aspx

"Operating in a power envelope under 35W, the Radeon Pro 450, 455, and 460 Series graphics processors deliver spectacular energy efficiency and cool, quiet operation to speed through the most demanding tasks in popular creative applications."
 
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