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The new side dock in Mavericks
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That picture is 400x250 pixels. So I cant really see much detail in it, but that small, yes, it looks fine.
It's not about the detail, it's about the colours. Sure you aren't a trolling fanboy?
I'm not.
Looking at your image, I legitimately dont see a problem.
Whats wrong with the colours? Do you just not like the contrast between the dark background and the light dock? Is that all? Or is there another issue?
If you don't see it, you don't see it. Same as some people are quite happy to wear brown shoes with a navy blue suit. Just not most people's cup of tea.
I like the transparency look myself, but I totally understand how the others in the thread feel. Of course I have the feeling a 3rd party transparency is way out of the question with the way the dock is rendered now.
You know what really bugs me, and I could be wrong, but why doesn't Apple read these things and give the people what they want. I know a lot of you have put up big bucks for your setups. Just doesn't make sense to me. Just my 2 cents.
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You know what really bugs me, and I could be wrong, but why doesn't Apple read these things and give the people what they want. I know a lot of you have put up big bucks for your setups. Just doesn't make sense to me. Just my 2 cents.
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I know you mean it as a joke, but that's exactly what I've done for now. Luckily my background is an image that works just as well when the colours are inverted.Then don't use a black background.
I prefer to have a dark background but until there's a real fix then I'd prefer to have a light background than the awful visual clash I get from the new side-dock.
-- Pete.
In fact, now I'm using a light background, I'm seeing all the shadow effects from the OS which are actually quite nice (although completely invisible with a very dark/black background). It's just a shame that without the shadow effect the elements really don't work at all.
I would prefer it if the OS automatically detected if the user has a predominately dark background, and if GUI elements were appropriately modified.
-- Pete.
I would prefer it if the OS automatically detected if the user has a predominately dark background, and if GUI elements were appropriately modified.
-- Pete.
I thought it was hideous at first too. Then I got over it. More to the point, if you have a flat background picture, the dock is going to look mostly flat grey. If you use a background picture with a good amount of color variation, the dock will take the colors of the background into it (i.e. it looks like semi-transparent bright crystal and thus my photo of Katy Parry with purple hair and out-of-focus flowers around here shades the dock quite well as does my pink background photo of Alessandria Ambrosio which makes the dock quite pink in shade instead of grey. Yeah, I'd like to tone down the brightness of the transparency, but I would NOT call that "black" look "perfect" in prior versions of OSX. Somewhere in-between would be preferable, IMO.
More disturbing to me is the fact that the side mounted docks do not "migrate" to other monitors like the bottom mounted dock does. If you run a program full screen on the primary monitor with a side-mounted dock, you can't easily start programs for the other monitors running since the dock is MIA in full screen mode. I don't know why Apple couldn't simply put a dock on every monitor like they did the menu bar. Like some have said, it's like the Apple developers didn't test any of this stuff with actual usage. But then that Johnny Ive guy that designed the putrid color scheme of iOS7 strikes me as not responding well to criticism of his "taste" in colors, etc. and I'm guessing he thinks ultra-white backgrounds and docks are just utterly beautiful and that a white "line" is better looking than a circle as a "dock light". Frankly, I would have imagined Tim Cook having a better eye for fashion, but maybe he's into crazy color schemes or something. Who knows. I can't imagine turtleneck Steve Jobs going for these bright backgrounds and crayon colors, though. I thought the new look for OSX was going to be black (i.e. the Final Cut X black interface). I guess not.
I don't see it either.
You can't articulate a short statement like "I think brown shoes look ugly with a blue suit." about your example picture?
I think his point was that he has a relatively dark background and now with Mavericks there is this very noticeable light colored rectangle on the side which draws your eye to it. Of course it would help his argument if he hadn't GeekTooled much of the rest of the desktop with white/light text.
Apple is just keeping us on our toes. In Mountain Lion people had the same issue with light colored wallpapers. They obviously don't want us to get too comfortable.
Wearing a navy suit with brown leather shoes is considered poor taste and against etiquette. You can be of the opinion that it looks good, but it may be seen as a faux pas by many others.
The comparison is not quite the same though. You could say that a brightly-coloured dock with a frosted-glass effect looks garish and should not be matched with darker wallpapers. You can think that it looks good, but it may be against style rules. However, compared with all other UI elements in OS X (menu bar, windows and the regular dock), the new dock does not look out of place. It may be unusual or not be to your liking, but it is not necessarily bad design.
I agree with Sital though, it would be much more convincing if the desktop wasn't covered with a lot of bright text. Moreover, it looks quite different as soon as windows is open.
I think Apple just took the save UX route here. With to much transparency and a dark background people would complain that dark icons (e.g. terminal) have not enough contrast to the background. So a neutral grayish it is.
The fact that you have a gray wallpaper does not help one bit in showing it's transparency. Yes, the differences are subtle but they are there.
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It's not that any brown shoes with a navy suit is seen as a faux pas. The brown should never be brighter than the navy suit itself, a chocolate brown or a darker brown is perfectly acceptable with a navy suit.
I agree with the dock though. The new 2D dock only works well with light coloured backgrounds vs. the old 2D dock which I think works better overall with either dark/bright backgrounds. As the new dock, I like it, I'll just have to use a lighter background when I do use it.
I personally dislike the black dock look as well but to each his own.
I keep my dock at the bottom, as small as can be but not auto-hidden. Everything is removed from it except Finder, a couple folders, and Trash.
I use Launchbar to launch apps and the dock is only used to provide easy access to those folders and trash as well as showing which apps are open.
The dock is antiquated in my opinion. Almost everything these days can be done with only a keyboard.
I'm probably in the minority though.
I keep my dock at the bottom, as small as can be but not auto-hidden. Everything is removed from it except Finder, a couple folders, and Trash.
I use Launchbar to launch apps and the dock is only used to provide easy access to those folders and trash as well as showing which apps are open.
The dock is antiquated in my opinion. Almost everything these days can be done with only a keyboard.
I'm probably in the minority though.
i'm with you; i use launchpad to open apps, the app switcher to switch between. and 'mailunreadmenu' in the menubar to notify me of new email. 'dockgone' to lock the dock away...on a 13" macbook, it's space i'd rather use for app windows...
Don't apply the latest update to Mail....it breaks mailunreadmenu compatibilty for now.
i did already, then found instructions to update the bundle in mail,
and all is well... (just did the first one, NOT the iMessages one...)
update mail bundle