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People complaining about the weight of the XR: It's literally .7 oz heavier than the iPhone X. It's not that heavy. it has a bigger battery and the longest battery life of any iPhone ever released, getting 3 hours more internet use and wireless video playback than the X. Heck the iPhone 8+ is 7.12 oz and its screen is .6" smaller than the XR (albeit a higher dpi display).

Seems Apple can't win. Smaller battery, lighter phone = "battery life sucks!" Bigger battery, better battery life = "OMG I can barely lift it!"
The X is already a heavy phone though. So anything even heavier is obviously worse.
 
I personally don’t like square designed back lens. That’s just me though. I like simplicity and eloquent.
 
Well that’s an unfortunate perception because it’s an incredibly capable phone. But all Android phones unfortunately fail to hold their value over time.

Samsung generally offers a lucrative trade in value of old phones that effectively subsidizes the purchase of an upgrade for existing customers. They often add in free accessories as well. I find my Samsung S10+ to be a very good value for the money because of such offers.

It can also often get a signal where our iPhones can’t. And right now it’s the only phone I’ve got with a super wide angle lens. I find that almost indispensable.

What I do not like is the curved glass display. I could do without that “feature.” The display does feel kind of flimsy compared to my iPhone display.

I go back and forth between iOS and Android. Generally, I favor Android, but I’m really excited about iOS 13 and the upcoming new iPhones. The rumored incremental improvements will suffice for me.

You the nail right on the head. Android phones in general drop in price very quickly. The unlocked S10+ can be had for $699 right now. And if AT&T didn't keep features from you because you use an unlocked phone (besides an iPhone lol) I'd buy one and put it through its paces for a couple weeks. It was refreshing to use, the two times I used one. It doesn't feel like a brick like the XS Max, and with its one handed mode, it was even easier to use one handed.

What stops Apple from putting a 4,000mah battery in the big boy phones? Is it cause they know they'll sell battery cases or is there something internal that takes up too much room?
 
Geez, I shouldn't read so fast: I read that as SIXTY percent bigger "what is it, a slice of pizza?"

My wife is super happy with her XR and it's ridiculous battery life. The other thing that it has that no other iphone seems to has is a ridiculously loud speaker. I've had to say "hey, can you turn that down" from the living room since her phone in the kitchen was drowning out the tv further in the living room.
This must have to do with the material being used. The XS and XS Max are in Glass while the XR is in Metal. My wife went from the 8 Plus, also metal to the XS Max and I indeed noticed the sound isn't as loud.
 
With everything in IOS being very bright and white, there isn't much the OLED can do. Will be interesting to see if battery improves with the new dark mode in IOS 13 to really take advantage of the OLED screen.

That's an interesting question. I would think it would have less of an impact on battery? I'm running the iOS 13 beta and it is DARK. It's pretty great.
 
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I hope this is true, I hated the phase Apple went through where they obsessed with shaving fractions of a millimeter from phone thickness and not increasing battery capacity.

A few months ago, I got a new Apple battery under the battery replacement program, but more and more I have apps that are running in the background and taking up precious battery power. Yes, I am very careful of which apps I allow to use Background App Refresh, but my current battery life is still not as good as in the past, when I had fewer background apps.

Apple must improve battery capacity AND battery drain (chip) efficiency ... this problem of battery drain from more and more apps will only get worse.
 
I wonder if this is because of that study from somewhere in the EU showing that the XR doesn't actually get the listed talk time that Apple states.
 
I’m confused. Macrumors says in this article that the XS consumes more power than the XR (paragraph after the first quote). How is that possible? The XS runs an OLED aaand it’s a smaller screen. How could the XS possibly draw more power than a XR?? We’ve been getting told all along “OLED, gooood. LCD, baaaad.”
 
I eventually upgraded from the 6S to the XR. Mainly because I decided the most important feature on any phone for me now is battery life.

This battery increase is welcome news but I do wish I could have a phone with the XR's camera/power/battery life, but the same size as an iPhone 4.

I don't hate the size of it, but for me there is just no need in a time where I'm trying to use my phone less.
 
Apple knew that one day they would need this to sell phones and exceed sales and that day has come with less than stellar sales from the past 2 yrs. Apple knew they could keep this in their pocket for only so long and now they will have to make a larger battery to market hype and make you feel you “need” this new iPhone.
[doublepost=1560375656][/doublepost]Also with a new chip, slightly larger battery and dark mode in iOS 13 could all translate to an hour more and that would be huge and a major selling point to get people to upgrade from their older phones like me on a 6s.
 
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That 6% gain in battery could be the 6% that would be drained by putting in a 401ppi screen?
Or maybe Apple intends to milk it and delay the screen bump for 2020 key upgrade.
 
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Well that’s an unfortunate perception because it’s an incredibly capable phone. But all Android phones unfortunately fail to hold their value over time.

Samsung generally offers a lucrative trade in value of old phones that effectively subsidizes the purchase of an upgrade for existing customers. They often add in free accessories as well. I find my Samsung S10+ to be a very good value for the money because of such offers.

It can also often get a signal where our iPhones can’t. And right now it’s the only phone I’ve got with a super wide angle lens. I find that almost indispensable.

What I do not like is the curved glass display. I could do without that “feature.” The display does feel kind of flimsy compared to my iPhone display.

I go back and forth between iOS and Android. Generally, I favor Android, but I’m really excited about iOS 13 and the upcoming new iPhones. The rumored incremental improvements will suffice for me.

TBH... I really am seeing myself wanting to do something similar with going back and forth. After all it is the best of both worlds.

Just don't have the time right now, or necessarily the means (especially, after buying Xs Max 256GB outright). HOWEVER, I feel an itch growing in my spirit to give Android a serious try. The last time I used Android as a daily driver was 2013, I had a brief fling in 2014 with the S5. So yeah, I'm well past due.

If I do anything this year, it'll be between Pixel 4 and/or One Plus Pro 7t. My only hangup at this point is Dual Sim. It is a "mandatory" feature for me from here on out. I hope Pixel 4 makes great strides in this regard, as I heard it's somewhat cumbersome on Pixel 3.
 
Doesn’t take away from how good the phone is. I don’t get how so many people are up in arms over the square camera enclosure. It least it’s symmetrical/neat. There’s plenty of other beauty in the phone’s design.

It would have been the greatest phone of all time if it had the PPI of the unbelievably great LCD screen of the plus phones.

After years of not seeing pixels, there's no way I'm going back to a grainy LCD or pentile OLED screen.

YUCK
 
Out of curiosity, what else about the battery drives battery life?
Voltage. mAh is not a good way to compare batteries, since their capacity will be different unless they have the same voltage rating. Watt hours (Wh) are the appropriate way to compare the power capacity of different batteries.
 
These phones are getting thicker and heavier by the iteration. What happened to having a phone in your pocket that aren't pulling your pants down for every step you take?
 
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