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iPod touch The Next iPod Touch

When will it be released?

  • July

    Votes: 7 1.1%

  • August

    Votes: 22 3.4%

  • September

    Votes: 520 79.8%

  • After September

    Votes: 55 8.4%

  • NEVER!!!

    Votes: 48 7.4%
  • Total voters
    652
Apple :apple: wont mimic the design of the new iPhone 4 seeing as they want to make a firm line between iPod's and iPhone's. Only small upgrades in design will be likely seen.

For the features, however, i wouldn't be at all surprised if Apple :apple: added a 3.2mp camera. If any camera is going to be added, it would be on the back over the front. A 5mp wont come in this generations iPod Touch seeing as Apple :apple: want more sells on the iPhone rather all eyes on the new iPod Touch.

It may get a Retina display, but thats unlikely due to the fact that they dont want iPod Touch's to become identical to iPhone 4.

FaceTime could be likely as in Apple's :apple: earlier Press Conference, they did mention that Apple's future products should come standard with FaceTime to promote such an App/Product. However, if FaceTime is included in this generations iPod Touch, then that will lead to a Front-Facing camera, which may not be plausible.

The Processor and battery-life will proberly increase in performance too, judging if Apple :apple: want to create more sales in the iPod Section...

Well thats my assumption on the upcoming iPod Touch 4G
 
d!sciple said:
There seems to be a lack of logic in a lot of this speculation on the new Touch.

Look at Apple's history, they leave an older version of models every time they upgrade. For the Touch last time it was an 8GB model so I would suggest they'll create a 16gig 3rd gen to put with the 4th gen, which will have 32 and 64gig.

There were strong rumours of a camera in the last gen so I would strongly suggest they put a rear camera in, it would be little extra to put a front facer with support for facetime over wifi using email as the source instead of phone numbers. I just hope they put a great camera in this like the 4 and not the 3gs version, there is no logical reason not to, it would help take business away from camera manufacturers and could increase sales quite a margin. It isn't quite a deal breaker but would mean I could purchase a Touch and not need any other camera with me as well while travelling (unless I wanted an SLR).

As it is strongly linked as a games device expect the retina display and A4 chip clocked at the same as iPhone 4. Gyroscope is a definite as it is for gaming anyway, shown by the jenga that Jobs played when announcing the iPhone 4.

This will probably be out in September along with new styling to the rest of the ipod range, to freshen them up. I wonder if they'll do something with the classic as it will severely struggle to sell with a next gen Touch, there is no logical reason to purchase one at the moment. If they bring a 128gig Touch then they may as well scrap it completely, could they turn it into a form of external hard drive with ipod capabilities?

Anyway that's my 2pence :p
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I agree with your post except for the highlighted areas.

Where was the gap of logic in this thread?

There is an EXTREMELY logical reason not to. The 5mp camera cannot fit. They would have to compromise the famed sleek design. https://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/08/iphone-4s-5mp-camera-wont-fit-in-current-ipod-touch-design/
 
First, think about it, everybody who has seen the ip4 and has some idea of what apple do (I mean releasing itouch with nearly the same specs as the iphone), will look at the ipod touch 3g and say to themselves "why should i buy this when the next one will be out lets say in a month or so..". This is why they gave ipod touch 3 free with macbook to get rid of abs every itouch 3. They've squezed this to the limit it's about time for itouch 4 :cool:
 
MaCamZa said:
Apple :apple: wont mimic the design of the new iPhone 4 seeing as they want to make a firm line between iPod's and iPhone's. Only small upgrades in design will be likely seen.

For the features, however, i wouldn't be at all surprised if Apple :apple: added a 3.2mp camera. If any camera is going to be added, it would be on the back over the front. A 5mp wont come in this generations iPod Touch seeing as Apple :apple: want more sells on the iPhone rather all eyes on the new iPod Touch.

It may get a Retina display, but thats unlikely due to the fact that they dont want iPod Touch's to become identical to iPhone 4.

FaceTime could be likely as in Apple's :apple: earlier Press Conference, they did mention that Apple's future products should come standard with FaceTime to promote such an App/Product. However, if FaceTime is included in this generations iPod Touch, then that will lead to a Front-Facing camera, which may not be plausible.

The Processor and battery-life will proberly increase in performance too, judging if Apple :apple: want to create more sales in the iPod Section...

Well thats my assumption on the upcoming iPod Touch 4G
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Faulty: your only argument was that they want to further iPhone and iPod. Not always the best argument, they have been extremely similar for the past 2 years (of course excluding phone stuff) (and camera, but that may change)

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How can there be facetime and not a front facing camera? I see you have doubts about a front cam. I will copy n paste a great post I made, hopefully it helps.

I don't think it's even possible for someone to even have a tiny doubt whether or not a front cam will be there.

Steve jobs quote
leaked digitizers
email based facetime
it can fit in touch
it is a $1.00 component
apple's ideas about facetime
iPhone 4 has it
common sense
ahead of competitors

those should be enough reasons to stop any doubt.


If you need clarification on any of these reasons, just ask, I will be glad to help.
 
GregR said:
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How can there be facetime and not a front facing camera? I see you have doubts about a front cam. I will copy n paste a great post I made, hopefully it helps...
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I never said that FaceTime will be their without a Front-Facing Camera. I said that if FaceTime was included, it would mean that their would have to be a Front-Facing Camera... And i can't see Apple adding the Front Camera until the next generation. I can definatly see a back-faced camera added, and im pretty sure it will, but i highly doubt the Front-Facing Camera, thus-enabling the lack of FaceTime.

Thanks for reply too :D Interested to see you changing my mind about the Front-Facing Camera :L
 
MaCamZa said:
I never said that FaceTime will be their without a Front-Facing Camera. I said that if FaceTime was included, it would mean that their would have to be a Front-Facing Camera... And i can't see Apple adding the Front Camera until the next generation. I can definatly see a back-faced camera added, and im pretty sure it will, but i highly doubt the Front-Facing Camera, thus-enabling the lack of FaceTime.

Thanks for reply too :D Interested to see you changing my mind about the Front-Facing Camera :L
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So does that mean you DID change your mind? And in my view, a front is more likely than back. Although I would rather back, than front, if I had to choose.
 
GregR said:
So does that mean you DID change your mind? And in my view, a front is more likely than back. Although I would rather back, than front, if I had to choose.
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+1 on back over front. honestly, Facetime is cool, but right now, it's only a just-for-kicks thing. I'm sure some out there are using it daily, but for most of us not. I had the iPhone 4, and I used Facetime a few times with a friend of mine. But it was mostly like..." hey, look , we're on Facetime, this is awesome. How's it working? It's working good? Can you hear me ok? See me ok? Wow, Facetime rules! ".. etc.

A back camera would be a much more useful tool.
 
GregR said:
There is an EXTREMELY logical reason not to. The 5mp camera cannot fit. They would have to compromise the famed sleek design. https://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/08/iphone-4s-5mp-camera-wont-fit-in-current-ipod-touch-design/
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I looked at the picture and said "yeah, that just may be a small problem". :D

Aside from the size issue, I have doubts that a HD camera will be given out since adding camera features is creeping close to iphone territory. However, more and more devices are getting cameras (albeit usually poor ones). So I would think that the touch will be the next device to get a camera (since that is where devices are going nowadays) and that the camera will likely be last year's 3GS camera.
 
boardbg said:
So we say гоодбъе to the back glass design on itouch 4 :S
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:confused: гоодбъе :confused:

Not sure what that is. Russian? Does it mean good bye?

Anyways, I personally would like to see the flat back return to the ipod touch, since the squaring up would give more room for the potential features that apple will give it.

A lot of people seem to like the current thinner than paper ipod. I'm guessing that apple has done some level of marketing survey to determine what it will look like.
 
MaCamZa said:
Sorry that came out wrong i meant... "IT WOULD BE interesting to see you change my mind about the Front-Facing Camera/FaceTime.
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Ok. I am going to convince you.

Steve jobs said there will be tens of millions of facetime devices shipped in 2010. There have not been tens of millions of iPhone 4s. AND he said devices, not iPhone 4s, hinting that there may e other facetime compatible devices.

There have been countless leaked front panels of the next touch. They all show a hole centered in the front. The hole is too large to be a sensor, it is the perfect size for a front facing camera.

In iOS 4.1, there is email based facetime, providing a different method of initiating a facetime call. That means there may be a device without a phone number which is facetime compatable.

iFixit's Kyle Weins checked out iPhone 4 parts compared to the touch. He announce the front facing cam can easily fit in the current touch design.

I did some research and checked out the iSuppli's teardown of the iPhone 4. They reported that the front facing VGA camera was a $1.00 component, so it would defonately be profitable to add, and is possible

Apple clearly loves facetime and wants to promote it. The only commercials for the iPhone 4 are about facetime. If apple really wants to promote facetime, they would add it on to different devices. As to provide greater access, especially to people who don't want to pay monthly data fees.

The iPhone 4 has it. Think about it, the iPod touch has been very close to the iPhone. The only difference has been the phone part (which I don't believe I need to justify) and the camera. They excluded the camera to have a groundbreaking release, and they didn't want to add a crappy 2 mp camera.

Adding a front facing camera would easily put the touch ahead of competitors. No other iPod touch-like device has a front cam. And a front cam in this can do so much, including videochat. Which competetors can not say they can do.

Common sense! think about it a front cam makes so much sense in an iPod touch. And look at these reasons! It can be put in, uncostly, it has support in iOS, apple want to promote it, all of this!!!

If this does not convince you, you are obviously very stubborn, OCD, and needs to always get your way.

Sorry about spelling and punctuation errors, I have don't this all from my first gen iPod touch.
 
Derkatwork said:
So I would think that the touch will be the next device to get a camera (since that is where devices are going nowadays) and that the camera will likely be last year's 3GS camera.
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I Totally agree with you on that one m8, there is no way that the iTouch 4G will get a 5MP camera due to the fine line between iPod's and iPhone's.
:apple: <3
 
MaCamZa said:
I Totally agree with you on that one m8, there is no way that the iTouch 4G will get a 5MP camera due to the fine line between iPod's and iPhone's.
:apple: <3
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Not because of that, mostly because it cannot fit in the design.

And please read my post I made in response to you. I put in slot of effort, and it better convince you.
 
GregR said:
Ok. I am going to convince you...
If this does not convince you, you are obviously very stubborn, OCD, and needs to always get your way.
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Thanks for your convincing essay :L Very appreciated seeing as you did all on your iPod :L

One's thing for sure, im definatly not stubborned, at least i don't want to look as if i am. I also dont get my way. I'm just learning new stuff from people like you (I'm new to Forums).

I guess you did convince me, and i hope these are true, and hope that the Front-Facing Camera doesn't get scraped at the last minute and have de-ja-vu like the previous experience from Apple where they said adding the camera and scraped last minute, giving unhappy customers :eek:
 
MaCamZa said:
I Totally agree with you on that one m8, there is no way that the iTouch 4G will get a 5MP camera due to the fine line between iPod's and iPhone's.
:apple: <3
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GregR is right. I didn't bring this to the table, so credit does go to him. ;)

GregR said:
Ok. I am going to convince you.

Steve jobs said there will be tens of millions of facetime devices shipped in 2010. There have not been tens of millions of iPhone 4s. AND he said devices, not iPhone 4s, hinting that there may e other facetime compatible devices.

There have been countless leaked front panels of the next touch. They all show a hole centered in the front. The hole is too large to be a sensor, it is the perfect size for a front facing camera.

In iOS 4.1, there is email based facetime, providing a different method of initiating a facetime call. That means there may be a device without a phone number which is facetime compatable.

iFixit's Kyle Weins checked out iPhone 4 parts compared to the touch. He announce the front facing cam can easily fit in the current touch design.

I did some research and checked out the iSuppli's teardown of the iPhone 4. They reported that the front facing VGA camera was a $1.00 component, so it would defonately be profitable to add, and is possible

Apple clearly loves facetime and wants to promote it. The only commercials for the iPhone 4 are about facetime. If apple really wants to promote facetime, they would add it on to different devices. As to provide greater access, especially to people who don't want to pay monthly data fees.

The iPhone 4 has it. Think about it, the iPod touch has been very close to the iPhone. The only difference has been the phone part (which I don't believe I need to justify) and the camera. They excluded the camera to have a groundbreaking release, and they didn't want to add a crappy 2 mp camera.

Adding a front facing camera would easily put the touch ahead of competitors. No other iPod touch-like device has a front cam. And a front cam in this can do so much, including videochat. Which competetors can not say they can do.

Common sense! think about it a front cam makes so much sense in an iPod touch. And look at these reasons! It can be put in, uncostly, it has support in iOS, apple want to promote it, all of this!!!

If this does not convince you, you are obviously very stubborn, OCD, and needs to always get your way.

Sorry about spelling and punctuation errors, I have don't this all from my first gen iPod touch.
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And also, all of those are good reasons. Good job. :) Aren't the fist gens so clunky? I will be glad for an upgrade.
 
GregR said:
I agree with your post except for the highlighted areas.

Where was the gap of logic in this thread?

There is an EXTREMELY logical reason not to. The 5mp camera cannot fit. They would have to compromise the famed sleek design. https://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/08/iphone-4s-5mp-camera-wont-fit-in-current-ipod-touch-design/
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Mostly from people saying there will be random sizes, features will be held off etc, not from you.

Umm, designs change. I don't see much resemblance from the iPhone 3gs to the 4, there is a complete redesign. Thinking this can't happen for the touch is a bit silly. I would actually expect a complete redesign for most of the ipods this year to make them stand out again, make people want the latest thing etc.

You are completely right about a front facing camera, logic and common sense would say there would be one this year.

What do you think they can do with the classic? Does it seem dead?
 
d!sciple said:
Mostly from people saying there will be random sizes, features will be held off etc, not from you.

Umm, designs change. I don't see much resemblance from the iPhone 3gs to the 4, there is a complete redesign. Thinking this can't happen for the touch is a bit silly. I would actually expect a complete redesign for most of the ipods this year to make them stand out again, make people want the latest thing etc.

You are completely right about a front facing camera, logic and common sense would say there would be one this year.

What do you think they can do with the classic? Does it seem dead?
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yes, designs do change, and I really want this one to. But the problem is, they would have to make it thicker. And the iPod touch is famed for it's sleek and sexy design. Apple doesn't want to compromise that (but I want them to!). It does seem silly that apple has to keep a similar design and an ugly scrath prone chrome back. I agree. The classic? Well that's for another thread. But if the touch capacity bumps to 128 (highly unlikely), then the classic is gone. But I think the classic has a chance. It's to appeal to those people who I've such large libraries they can't even coins how many albums there are in there.

I can easily see the faulty logic on this thread, I thought you meant from me, i've been realistic.

But can we keep the iPod classic's annhilation/rebirth to the proper forum section/thread?
 
GregR said:
yes, designs do change, and I really want this one to. But the problem is, they would have to make it thicker. And the iPod touch is famed for it's sleek and sexy design. Apple doesn't want to compromise that (but I want them to!). It does seem silly that apple has to keep a similar design and an ugly scrath prone chrome back. I agree. The classic? Well that's for another thread. But if the touch capacity bumps to 128 (highly unlikely), then the classic is gone. But I think the classic has a chance. It's to appeal to those people who I've such large libraries they can't even coins how many albums there are in there.

I can easily see the faulty logic on this thread, I thought you meant from me, i've been realistic.

But can we keep the iPod classic's annhilation/rebirth to the proper forum section/thread?
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Absolutely, but it is relevant here, as you suggest, as they are unlikely to increase the current touch above the current 64gig for this reason. It is also why they are highly unlikely to introduce SD cards as some commented early in the thread.

I really do think they will redesign all the iPods to the industrial feel of the iPhone 4, it would allow the touch to have a camera that can take pictures and not just video a la the nano. Again ... it is logic, something apple always seems to move towards.
 
d!sciple said:
Absolutely, but it is relevant here, as you suggest, as they are unlikely to increase the current touch above the current 64gig for this reason. It is also why they are highly unlikely to introduce SD cards as some commented early in the thread.

I really do think they will redesign all the iPods to the industrial feel of the iPhone 4, it would allow the touch to have a camera that can take pictures and not just video a la the nano. Again ... it is logic, something apple always seems to move towards.
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The touch will most definately be ble to take pics. The capacity will not go above 64 (what about 16?). I agree they really should change the design of the ipod lineup, cuz there is always a better reason to have it look THIS way.

But what do you mean by "the industrial feel of iPhone 4"?
 
GregR said:
The touch will most definately be ble to take pics. The capacity will not go above 64 (what about 16?). I agree they really should change the design of the ipod lineup, cuz there is always a better reason to have it look THIS way.

But what do you mean by "the industrial feel of iPhone 4"?
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Yeah I think they keep a 3rd gen 16gb at the entry level and have the 4 at 32 and 64. They never really go above the rule of 3 for memory capacity, probably too many products to make. This touch does need to be distinguished from the iPhone in some design capacity but there has to be a similarity, which means space for the 5mp cam. It will help distinguish between the old model and the new one as well. Limiting to the 3gs camera is shooting themselves in the foot and would hurt sales.

I mean the industrial style design of the iPhone 4, which it definitely is. Slightly more metallic looking with firmer edges, rather than the sleek design that was previously used on all ipods to the iPhone.
 
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