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What you hold is to defend. Well done.

Ok, then. :D

Apple products are still way too expensive for what they are.
I guess Jobs dieing did real bad for the company. It's going back to the niche, and fast. That is sad.
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Nokia is gone. HMD Global zombified the brand. ‍♀️‍♂️

Just walk 200 meters from HMD offices, and you'll be in a Nokia Office. Hinthint.
 
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Trypophobia
is a silly, made up fad... it's not a medically recognised phobia, and the reason so many people say 'they have it' is because the examples given online are deliberately made to be as disgusting as possible (lotus boob for example). If you don't look at something innocuous like a cluster of bubbles floating on top of a coffee and feel a deep sense of unease, then you don't even have it by the medically dubious definition that does exist...
 
I've thought of another line of Apple product. The iCamera. With built-in smartphone functionality. It'll sell millions!
 
I love how most people here don't have any idea how cameras work, and why the new Nokia 5 is fantastic news especially for photographers... :)

Btw, Nokia is going to be big again soon. 5G is coming.

(HMD is just next to the actual old Nokia home offices, just a hint of what's to come... And Apple keeps paying Nokia royalties for its tech.)
5G may be coming, but the video showed 4G. Not with this phone.
 
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I hope that I'm not the only one who immediately thought of these things from the Matrix movies when they saw all the cameras in the back?
 
Aaaannndddd... still a crappy Snapdragon 845, and “only” 4G.

Unless there has been some sort of big advancement with in-display fingerprint sensors, they’re not ready for prime time.
 
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Larger sensor takes a lot of space, and most of the benefits of larger sensor (shallow depth of field, less noise, better low light) have been taken care off by software (see Google Pixel, Apple's own ISP and portrait mode, Huawei night mode, etc).
Physically zooming lens didn't work. Samsung (and I think Asus) have tried it, but those phones bombed. Nobody wants a clunky phone. So the solution some OEMs are doing is with multiple cameras with multiple focal lengths. We will see where the sweet spot is. Apple is baking on regular and telephoto lens. LG is betting on regular and wide angle lens. Samsung is trying everything with 4 cameras. And Nokia wants to trump them all. It's good though that these companies are willing to try and see what will work.

The additional cameras and lens adds up cost as well as space. If there was an option, I would choose a single lens, however, I would only choose to use my DSLR for important pictures. I know quality lens and larger sensors are what makes great pictures and I agree that with the physical size of the phone nearly make it impossible to compare to DSLR. For the average person, the added camera/lens and image software works best for them.
 
Despite the thread title, there is only one camera which happens to have five lenses.

Any old school SLR user will tell you that five lenses with varying focal lengths is about the minimum reasonable kit for a photographer facing various situations from action to portraits to landscapes.

Given the additional restriction of miniscule lens size on smartphone cameras, multiple lenses are an astute engineering design decision.
One lens is enough for me then.
 
5G may be coming, but the video showed 4G. Not with this phone.

What I meant was that main-Nokia is not interested in phones per se. It is a aiming to be a networking giant and having a large patent portfolia. HMD is basically Nokias phone-arm, but without the danger of loss - Everything HMD does is +++ for Nokia.

A smart move.
 
At some point the world will have been photographed. Then people are going to be asking what happened to my smart phone? By then we better have the ability to record smells or smart phones will be so "last year."
 
Using the name Pureview is ballsy, so HMD is going to have some big shoes to fill with this phone (which likely won't make it out of Asia, as usual). Looks to be 5 sensors, a dual-LED flash, and I assume laser autofocus (i prefer focus pixels; they're faster).

However, competition is good. Anything that can defeat the (false) claim that the Pixel phones have the best Android cameras is good in my book.

As for Apple, I just want them to use the same, big, fast, big-pixeled, OIS'd sensor they use in the main shooter, in the additional shooter(s).

A 3x zoom using the same as the main sensor would be awesome.
 
Exactly what the world needs so everyone can take photos that they will never print but upload to Instagram with a 1080px in width by 1350px max resolution. What's the point of all this camera BS when nearly no one uses the camera for what they are actually built to do. How many folks are printing large framed images for their home? Not many, but I am and the iPhone 5 did this just fine.
This is more about light than resolution. Instead of having a single large lens that will need to protrude, you make many smaller lenses and combine their light and computationally process a single photo from the multiple lenses.
 
Using the name Pureview is ballsy, so HMD is going to have some big shoes to fill with this phone (which likely won't make it out of Asia, as usual). Looks to be 5 sensors, a dual-LED flash, and I assume laser autofocus (i prefer focus pixels; they're faster).

However, competition is good. Anything that can defeat the (false) claim that the Pixel phones have the best Android cameras is good in my book.

As for Apple, I just want them to use the same, big, fast, big-pixeled, OIS'd sensor they use in the main shooter, in the additional shooter(s).

A 3x zoom using the same as the main sensor would be awesome.


Most (all?) Nokia phones are out in Europe. Apparently HMD starts focusing on the USA this year.
 
Most (all?) Nokia phones are out in Europe. Apparently HMD starts focusing on the USA this year.

Close enough. They're on the same continent at least.

While the Samsung clone design language ain't bad, I miss the polycarbonate unibodies of Nokia of old.
 
Nokia make the most durable phones. Always have, and still do. Their 2017-2018 phones did the best in all durability tests. Nokia... phones for clumsy people.

Android 7 and up is so much better than it used to me. I have been a Mac user since the 90's, but when it comes to smart phones I have always used Android. It sucked early only, but versions 5 and 6 made things much better, and 7+ is just as smooth and reliable as iOS. My Motorola has Android 8, and I want for nothing.
 
"The video depicts a Nokia device with seven rear circles, dedicated to five ZEISS cameras, a flash, and other sensors."

first thing I thought of:

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I like how it says edge to edge display and it has a huge forehead and chin.
Your’e looking at the wrong two edges
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Nokia Why stop at 5 cameras? Hell, lets just make a camera array on the whole backside of the phone?
Maybe by the time the iPhone XXs Edition Pro Plus is released Apple will adopt a 10 camera design and then what?

This is stupid. All these tech companies are like children bragging about their crap "We'll mines got this and ah that and ah can do this....ooh ooh and ah..." seriously... where is this fine line between innovation and absurdity?

Im all for being competitive but i just see this as being a miss before it even gets started.

Despite my view and how super silly this sounds, I am curious to see how this will look and work at the same time.
Less room to hold it. All I get is pictures of my fingers, what gives?
 
It does look pretty darn good, now remove the Nokia/Zeiss names and it's a winner.

I prefer an Icon instead of brand names on devices, for instance Blackberry, some brands/models
for instance LG on some of their TV sets have tiny logos, better than a huge Samsung on the
front of a TV.
 
This reminds me of AMD/Intel processor wars, more cores, higher GHz wars, they finally lost sight of processors for mobile devices, by the time they realized that people need processors with lower power consumption it was too late & ARM kicked X86 in the ass.
Google is smart they are real innovators in Mobile Camera space.
 
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