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The Official Battlestar Galactica Thread : SPOILERS
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I agree, and we've already destroyed a Battlestar by ramming it into another ship.
Actually, the episode were they destroyed the Pegasusand two Basestars with itmight have been one of the high-points of the series.
There are too many things being presented late in the series, it will be interesting how they can wrap it up in 2 hours!
Explaining Starbuck will be a whopper, either we have a god, a super race, or they leave it totally hanging...
I just want to see Ellen surprise Cavil (John) by having the centurions and other "pet" cylons he thinks he has changed to do his bidding basically fall over themselves to help her.
I never really understood, looking from a purely logical standpoint, why they rammed the pegasus and not the gallactica. The Pegasus was a bigger, newer and more powerful ship, wouldn't it have made strategic sense to have kept that instead of the galactica?
The Pegasus wasn't originally supposed to go to New Caprica. Bill Adama ordered Lee to stay with the remains of the fleet whilst he took Galactica back for the rescue attempt. Despite rescuing the humans off the surface Galactica was about to be destroyed in orbit by the Basestars, until Lee turned up with an empty Pegasus and used it as a battering ram. There were too many people on Galactica to abandon ship in time, but most of the Pegasus people had stayed with the fleet as per Bill Adama's orders. I think the Pegasus actually managed to take out three Basestars in total, one with firepower, a second by ramming it, and the last was destroyed by flying debris when the Pegasus and second Basestar exploded. Not a bad way for the ship to go
They did pull it off pretty well. However, I think the whole Pegasus plot was full of missed opportunities. It was such a brilliant addition to the show, but ultimately it changed little and led to many false starts, including the interesting-but-aborted stint that Lee spent as Commander.
...then lawyer, then pilot again, then politician.
...then lawyer, then pilot again, then politician.
I, too, don't know how they will satisfactorily wrap everything up in the finale - I'm eager to see, but also a little wary. It's things like the Kara revelation this past episode (so she is, or isn't a Cylon? ) as well as the introduction of the Cylon Colony that concerns me. The Colony makes sense and in truth I have always wondered from the start exactly where the "Cylon homeworld" was, but still...
And yeah, using Galactica as a weapon has been done with Pegasus already, and I doubt it would be that cool and dramatic if they did it again - although the writers have surprised me before.
There just seems to be so much to tie up and so little time. Conversely, with al the revelations of the past few episodes, drinking backstory out of a fire hydrant has been a little overwhelming as well I must admit.
One question though - it was my understanding that the finale is actually in 2 parts, with part 1 being an hour and airing 03/13, and part 2 being 2 hours and airing 03/20, thus making the finale 3 hours - can anyone confirm the latest on this?
) as well as the introduction of the Cylon Colony that concerns me. The Colony makes sense and in truth I have always wondered from the start exactly where the "Cylon homeworld" was, but still...And yeah, using Galactica as a weapon has been done with Pegasus already, and I doubt it would be that cool and dramatic if they did it again - although the writers have surprised me before.
There just seems to be so much to tie up and so little time. Conversely, with al the revelations of the past few episodes, drinking backstory out of a fire hydrant has been a little overwhelming as well I must admit.
One question though - it was my understanding that the finale is actually in 2 parts, with part 1 being an hour and airing 03/13, and part 2 being 2 hours and airing 03/20, thus making the finale 3 hours - can anyone confirm the latest on this?
...I think the Pegasus actually managed to take out three Basestars in total, one with firepower, a second by ramming it, and the last was destroyed by flying debris when the Pegasus and second Basestar exploded. Not a bad way for the ship to go
Yes, one Basestar was destroyed by Pegasus' ramming, and the second was destroyed as a consequence of that.
Early in Season 4, when Baltar was gibbering at the Centurion, I expected his speech to have some consequences so that the Centurions and Raiders revolted against their "skin-job" masters.
Actually, it's surprising how ineffectual Baltar has become since he returned from the Cylon's care, even his trial seemed like barely a ripple after an episode or two. I've always expected Baltar to be similar to the original series character, who become the de facto leader of the Centurions in their war against humanity.
They did pull it off pretty well. However, I think the whole Pegasus plot was full of missed opportunities. It was such a brilliant addition to the show, but ultimately it changed little and led to many false starts, including the interesting-but-aborted stint that Lee spent as Commander.
...then lawyer, then pilot again, then politician.
Lee's career turn
Lee as a Commander was interesting, as was his weight gain and marriage to Dee, except that most of this happened off-screen. I did enjoy "The Captain's Hand" which showed Lee growing into command, but I also felt this story-line was aborted far too quickly. So was Admiral Cain's, I think.
This is as good a description as any. I'm really surprised how much time was spent on Adama's decision to abandon Galactica and how little time was spent on bigger issues like Starbuck's resurrection and Hera. If I don't find out why Baltar, Roslin, Caprica, and Boomer all had the same dream about Hera, I'm going to flip out.
If it was "all a dream...." I'm going to be upset.
TV.com has the next 3 episodes listed:
http://www.tv.com/battlestar-galactica-2003/show/23557/episode.html
Daybreak1 3/13
Daybreak2 3/20
Daybreak3 3/20
Its this Cylon called "Daniel" that has me thinking the most. "Daniel" is the model that was phased out by contaminating the cloning process. I'm convinced this haas something to do with the plot.
Either Baltar is the timid/creative "Daniel" model, or Kara is the daughter of "Daniel". It would explain how Kara and Hera both know the trigger song of the final five.........
Either Baltar is the timid/creative "Daniel" model, or Kara is the daughter of "Daniel". It would explain how Kara and Hera both know the trigger song of the final five.........
Ron Moore has said something to the effect of, Daniel was a creation to fix the numbering system, and a way to describe just how effed Cavil is. But, you could be right and Daniel could be the lynch-pin.
Excellent, thanks for confirming the finale as 3 hours, as I thought!
Thanks, I thought it was apt. Yeah, I feel the same way as you - so many loose ends to tie up - will they address everything satisfactorily, or have the writers simply bit off more they can chew?
I never understood the numbering issue. So what if Boomer was an '8'? There are/were 12 Cylons - each has a # - so what if the "final five" were simply random #s from 1-12? Why do they have to be #s 9-13? I don't see what they had to introduce the Daniel aspect - unless of course there is a lot more to it than just a band-aid for a plot hole...
Thanks, I thought it was apt.
Yeah, I feel the same way as you - so many loose ends to tie up - will they address everything satisfactorily, or have the writers simply bit off more they can chew?I never understood the numbering issue. So what if Boomer was an '8'? There are/were 12 Cylons - each has a # - so what if the "final five" were simply random #s from 1-12? Why do they have to be #s 9-13?
I don't see what they had to introduce the Daniel aspect - unless of course there is a lot more to it than just a band-aid for a plot hole...
Yep, 4 & 5 are almost background characters at this point. I find it easy to forget about them.
Yes, they haven't had as major of roles as the others. From what I read somewhere the actors themselves have simply been committed to other projects and have not been able to participate more due to shooting schedules and such - I don't think it's for lack of interest, as I remember RDM mentioning in a podcast way back about specifically wanting to have "Simon" in more epsiodes but, again, the schedules just didn't align.
I never understood the numbering issue. So what if Boomer was an '8'? There are/were 12 Cylons - each has a # - so what if the "final five" were simply random #s from 1-12? Why do they have to be #s 9-13?
Because the "final five" are actually the original five, and don't have numbers. The final five created the others, and numbered them as they created them, so they had to explain what happened to #7.
Part of the fun of BSG for me, more than other shows, is watching the writers write themselves out of the holes they've written themselves into. If they'd known where they were going from the outset, it wouldn't have even made sense to call them the "final five." First five would make more sense, or better yet, if they "don't talk about them," then why count them?
Okay, that's a little less impactful, I suppose.
The one question I want answered I bet won't be, of course, is who left Adama the note?
I have to admit that's one of the main reasons I keep watching.
They now have less than 3 hours to wrap everything up satisfactorily. Think they'll pull it off?
Are you going? I am jealous.
I am just starting season 3, which I missed most of.Only 2 hours left
I've loved so much, adios amigo.
He seemed very gentle with Hera, so I am curious what he has up his sleeve.
Ok, I stopped reading after post #1204ish or so, as I haven't seen all of season 3 and don't know (didn't know
) how it got destroyed.
Ah yes, I guess that makes sense.
Yep, I have wondered the same thing since the very beginning and have never read one satisfactory explanation yet. My guess is they never tie up this loose end.
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