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Savage Henry said:
On another tangent: I wonder if the choice of 'Torchwood' was entirely deliberate ... seeing as it is an anagram of Doctor Who.
Apparently, the Doctor Who production crew who worked on the last series used to label documents and tapes 'Torchwood' to protect them from prying eyes – they used the name simply because, as you rightly say, it's an anagram. When it came to coming up for a name for the spin off and it's shadowy organisation, the name seemed to fit really well so that's what they went with.
 
Theory update!

In the commentary to Army Of Ghosts (listen to it at http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/episodes/2006/armyofghosts.shtml) Russell T Davies says the blue and red 3D glasses the Doctor wears are genuinely used for something in Doomsday.

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All we know about the glasses are that one eye is red, which is the spectrum of colour seen when travelling forward in the time vortex and the other eye is blue, the spectrum seen when travelling to the past. The intro sequence to Doctor Who uses these 2 colours if you hadn't noticed.

So! The 3D glasses are used to view some kind of time event, triggered by the Genesis Ark perhaps...
 
Jaffa Cake said:
You're welcome. And it is nice to see the show in the hands of people who do take it seriously. ;)

If they were taking it that seriously why did they have Earth have first contact with an alien species (The Christmas Invasion) in the year 2006, presumably just because it is needed in the Torchwood spin off series! Doctor Who is supposed to be set in our dimension and I don't think we are going to get alien visitors this year (unless RTD knows something we don't)!

Sorry but it really annoyed me when they done this. I'm scared they'll mess up our Doctor Who, which has been running for 43 years.

Parting Of The Ways already had one huge paradox in it and Doctor Who is about the only sci-fi program in the world which adheres to cause and effect properly. Star Trek et all have had some fantastic episodes with time travel in them but they are all flawed in that they would all cause paradoxes (and put the Earth in a time loop).

In the world of Doctor Who, such events in Parting Of The Ways are impossible, as they would be in real life aswell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_paradox). And before you say I'm being pedantic, Doctor Who's expertise is in time travel before any other science.
 
As mentioned above, the password into the Torchwood website is "doomsday".

Once inside, to access the restricted Cybus Corporation files, use the password "delete". There's some cool wallpaper there, among other things. :cool:
 
Metal Zombie said:
Doctor Who is supposed to be set in our dimension and I don't think we are going to get alien visitors this year (unless RTD knows something we don't)!
For one thing, it's for dramatic reasons. If what we know is threatened, we feel a greater sense of danger. That's one reason why it's always Earth he seems to be saving, and especially contemporary Britain. If it's some other planet and some other species we're going to feel the drama less because frankly it's not our way of life that's under attack.

Plus, it's easier on the budget. ;)

I do know what you mean though – at least the invasion storylines of, say, the Pertwee era were generally more covert operations rather than the big, grand affairs we see today. It does seem that with each big event (The Christmas Invasion, Aliens of London/World War Three, and now the big Cyberman incursion) it's taking us more and more away from our 'reality', which does grate a little with me too. I suppose that now shows like Doctor Who have to compete more with the big blockbuster type alien threats that always seem very huge and looming.

Still, time in flux and all that...
 
I know, nearly all invasions have been covert so that they can be included in our universe (bar The Tenth Planet! But I'm sure a reason can be made up for that one).

If humans are to make first contact in the Whoniverse it should have been made further into the future to us, say 2015, not this bleeding Christmas. I assume they needed this to happen for (an unknown reason in) the Torchwood spin off series. But I thought Torchwood would be like the X-files, not with everyone on Earth aware of aliens and wondering when the next ones might arrive (although I'm not saying this wouldn't make an excellent series).

Russell T Davies is always going on how we need to keep returning to Earth and Rose's chavvy mother so that we can connect with it all and it makes it more believable but this is going to make it completely unbelievable!

I am currently making a huge Doctor Who site (which is taking me ages) and it has a Timeline of all the events in the Whoniverse as seen in Doctor Who. I'm not too pleased with it currently saying '2006 Christmas first contact is made'. Cos it isn't gonna happen Russell! It isn't going to happen! -Slaps Russell round the chops- :mad:

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(Yes I've just noticed the future date for Parting Of The Ways should be red, not blue)
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Thanks for the tip. I might just have to make use of some of those desktops... :cool:

Yeah, I thought they were quite well done as well. Say what you want about their extreme tactics, but you can't fault the Cybermen for being stylish! :D ;)
 
~Shard~ said:
Say what you want about their extreme tactics, but you can't fault the Cybermen for being stylish! :D ;)
Indeed. Seven foot high steel suits are what a number of well dressed Londoners will be wearing this Saturday evening, I fear. :D

I will say one nitpicky thing though... the Cyberconversion desktop shows the 'donor' inside the suit and the faceplate being lowered onto his human face – the 'Cybusmen' only use the brains of their victims so the ribs and stuff we can see wouldn't be there. None the less, they're great desktops and it's nice to see so much effort going into 'hidden' downloads that a lot of people won't ever actually get to see. :cool:
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Indeed. Seven foot high steel suits are what a number of well dressed Londoners will be wearing this Saturday evening, I fear. :D

I will say one nitpicky thing though... the Cyberconversion desktop shows the 'donor' inside the suit and the faceplate being lowered onto his human face – the 'Cybusmen' only use the brains of their victims so the ribs and stuff we can see wouldn't be there. None the less, they're great desktops and it's nice to see so much effort going into 'hidden' downloads that a lot of people won't ever actually get to see. :cool:

Yeah, exactly - but it's all good. ;)

On another topic, one issue I have with Torchwood is the fact that, well, it's been around since Queen Victoria - and the Doctor has never once run into them, or vice versa?!? Especially during the Pertwee years, when the Doctor was working almost exclusively with UNIT, another government agency of sorts? And on top of that, all the stuff UNIT was involved with, like the Master (another Timelord, why wasn't Torchwood watching him as well?), Autons, the Nestene consciousness, Silurians, Sea Devils, Daemons, Axons... Just seems kind of odd, that's all.
 
~Shard~ said:
On another topic, one issue I have with Torchwood is the fact that, well, it's been around since Queen Victoria - and the Doctor has never once run into them, or vice versa?!? Especially during the Pertwee years, when the Doctor was working almost exclusively with UNIT, another government agency of sorts?
Apparently, I heard that RTD stated in one of the commentaries that Torchwood and UNIT are two entirely separate organisations (like the CIA and FBI was the example I think he used) so they don't collaborate or share intelligence. I think Torchwood is aware of UNIT, but not vice versa, what with them being all shadowy and everything. Mind, how Torchwood manages to remain such a secret when they plaster their logo over everything and extras are mentioning it every other week, I don't know... :p ;)
 
Well, as I said before, I can't wait until "Doomsday"... I must say though, a small part of me is slightly nervous that RTD might, well, screw things up. :eek: ;) I hope he does it right, but this whole "Daleks vs Cybermen" premise has shades of "Alien vs Predator". Two great enemies, combined essentially for the hardcore fans' sake in many ways - and in the case of AvP, with disastrous results. :( I hope RTD had a grand vision in place before doing this, as opposed to just saying, "Hey, every geeky Doctor Who fan has been wanting this for ages, I'll give it to them just to make for a spectacular finale!" ;)
 
Yeah I don' think RTD will mess this one up on the strength of the first episode, which I think was the best episode yet of the New Who. Mind you most of the conclusions of the 2 parters so far haven't lived up to their first episodes (The Doctor Dances was a fantastic exception).

Oh and Jaffa is right, UNIT were not aware of Torchwood because:
1) UNIT is a United Nations organisation (not British)
2) The Doctor is a listed enemy of Torchwood (British and with imperial intentions)

So they're not even like the CIA and the FBI as RTD said, they're much further apart.
 
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