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~Shard~ said:
So, with all this inter-dimensional/parallel universe mingling going on, I wonder if we will indeed see an appearance by the Timelords as well? And will it be just a brief thing, since they will e from the parallel universe, or will it be some type of a permanent thing, where they get brought back somehow when all is said and done?
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Hmm... briefly bringing them back tantalisingly and then snatching them away from the Doctor could be interesting from a writer's point of view, emphasising what the Doctor lost – it's the kind of emotive thing RTD loves. I would be surprised if we see them back in the next two episodes, though.
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Hmm... briefly bringing them back tantalisingly and then snatching them away from the Doctor could be interesting from a writer's point of view, emphasising what the Doctor lost – it's the kind of emotive thing RTD loves. I would be surprised if we see them back in the next two episodes, though.
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Yeah, I tend to agree. It looks like we'll have enough on our plates as it is, and there almost isn't room for the Timelords! ;) Plus, if the Timelords did come back, um, what exactly what they do to help? :eek:

Also, to elaborate on my somewhat brief comment above regarding "Fear Her", I found the story to be average as well. Yet another story of people either getting mind controlled or captured in some way, shape or form. I really see the previous 2 episodes as being targeted towards kids, with "The Impossible Planet" and "The Satan Pit" being more darker and adult - and that's what I prefer. :cool: This story just seemed too simplistic and boring. And how did the Doctor point towards the Olympic torch for Rose in that drawing? Where did the torch come from? The Doctor lighting the Olympic flame at the end was a little cheesy too.

Also, I get a bit tired of the stories always being based on Earth, let alone in the UK. That's why I enjoyed the Baker years so much, and why I enjoyed The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit series. It seems like there has been an abundance of stories set in the UK this year in the not-too-distant past or future. Meh. "Fear Her" would have been better if it was some alien child on some distant planet 20,000 years in the future - why did it have to be London 6 years from now? Not very "sci-fi" IMO.

That being said, yes, I realize the 2-part finale will be set in the UK as well, present day, and it looks to be completely amazing, so that's fair enough - I'm not trying to over-generalize with my above comments.

How many times has the Earth been invaded now (or at least had some hostile alien encounter) throughout the Doctor Who series? 17, 18 times? I can count about 10 from the Pertwee years alone... ;) You think they would be used to it and better prepared now, wouldn't you? :p ;) :D
 
~Shard~ said:
Also, I get a bit tired of the stories always being based on Earth, let alone in the UK. That's why I enjoyed the Baker years so much, and why I enjoyed The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit series. It seems like there has been an abundance of stories set in the UK this year in the not-too-distant past or future.
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Russell has gone on record as saying his favourite Dr. Who era was when Jon Pertwee was trapped on Earth, so it looks like we're stuck with the UK in 2010 or so for a bit yet.
 
~Shard~ said:
The Doctor lighting the Olympic flame at the end was a little cheesy too.
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Good God, yes. I must admit to cringing a little at that point. :D

I'll say one thing in defence of this story and its setting – Stephen Fry was supposed to be penning an episode for this series, but it had to be put on hold fairly late in the day due to budget/logistical constraints. Fear Her was written as a last minute replacement to fill the gap, so setting it in contemporary(ish) Britain is an understandable move, given the fact that they wouldn't have the time to go creating an alien world or extraterrestrial species and doing them justice. Still, the writing wasn't exactly what I'd call top notch either and you can't go excusing that.

And yes, it always does seem to be Earth getting invaded (and especially the UK), but as for us Brits getting better at sorting out alien invasions over time – given the fact that in this country we get totally caught out by something as obvious as the seasons (droughts and hosepipe bans in summer, roads closed by a light dusting of snow in winter) it's not surprising that we still have to rely on the Doctor to repel unwanted extraterrestrial attentions. :D
 
Cybermen VS Daleks seems confirmed...

I was looking in this weeks TV Times and on the back page they have a preview of whats in the next weeks mag and guess what... There is a picture of cybermen V Dalek and it says underneath "Its the battle for the universe".

So it would seem that its gonna happen...
 
dynamicv said:
Russell has gone on record as saying his favourite Dr. Who era was when Jon Pertwee was trapped on Earth, so it looks like we're stuck with the UK in 2010 or so for a bit yet.
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Yeah, but the thing is, I really liked the Pertwee years as well. Not sure why it's bugging me more this time around... Maybe because the Master isn't involved as he was back then.. :eek: ;)

Jaffa Cake said:
I'll say one thing in defence of this story and its setting – Stephen Fry was supposed to be penning an episode for this series, but it had to be put on hold fairly late in the day due to budget/logistical constraints. Fear Her was written as a last minute replacement to fill the gap, so setting it in contemporary(ish) Britain is an understandable move, given the fact that they wouldn't have the time to go creating an alien world or extraterrestrial species and doing them justice. Still, the writing wasn't exactly what I'd call top notch either and you can't go excusing that.
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Actually I wasn't aware of this, so good to know. Still, as you say, that's no excuse for the uninspired writing.
 
yup, bored of the UK locations myself... wait. did I say UK? I mean London.

Did the Doc visit Ireland, Wales or Scotland this episode? did he at all take a visit outside of London? *sobs*
I thought that was the main criticism of last series, the lack of alien homeworlds. Thought maybe "hey, that means more alien worlds in the next series!"

... what happened with the ice-world scene we keep saying for the TARDISode stuff, and the original trailer for series 2? I demand to know :p I like snow.
 
So, any predictions on what will actually happen to Rose? Will she actually "die in battle", as the Beast said, or not? Or, will she instead decide to go to the parallel universe to never return? Perhaps alternate-Pete misses his alternate-Jackie, Jackie misses her Pete, and if they all go into the other dimension they can be a family again, and Rose can be with Mickey/Ricky again. Mind you, would they want to be in that alternate universe, since the Cybermen are evidently still running amok in it?

Any other thoughts on how Rose will make her exit? I don't know if she'll die, per se, but I could see her committing some selfless act to save the Doctor and/or the Earth which results in some sort of demise for her. Mind you, she's already consumed the time vortex from the TARDIS, which didn't kill her but killed the Doctor, so who knows how hard it will be to destroy her! :eek: ;)

And with this presumably darker ending to the season, what exactly will RTD have in store for the "merry" Christmas episode? A companionless, lonely Doctor, the world rebuilding from an invasion, Rose gone...? Doesn't set itself up well for a very festive episode, does it? ;) :cool:
 
Jaffa Cake said:
And yes, it always does seem to be Earth getting invaded (and especially the UK), but as for us Brits getting better at sorting out alien invasions over time – given the fact that in this country we get totally caught out by something as obvious as the seasons (droughts and hosepipe bans in summer, roads closed by a light dusting of snow in winter) it's not surprising that we still have to rely on the Doctor to repel unwanted extraterrestrial attentions. :D
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Very funny and very true :D

raggedjimmi said:
Did the Doc visit Ireland, Wales or Scotland this episode? did he at all take a visit outside of London? *sobs*
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Wasn't the episode with Queen Victoria and the werewolf set in Scotland? :p
 
Jaffa Cake said:
I think the final two-parter is set in Wales (Cardiff of course), but I might be wrong. Still, not exactly Raxacoricofallapatorius, is is?
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Or somewhere really alien like Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch :) Note to non-UK readers. That's a real place in Wales.
 
dynamicv said:
Or somewhere really alien like Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch :) Note to non-UK readers. That's a real place in Wales.
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That's in the next valley along from Raxacoricofallapatorius. The Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogochians aren't as green and scary as their neighbours, but they do better tea towels.
 
I bought a pencil from Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch bearing the towns name.
it was a very big pencil. and actually being able to say the name is a great party trick ;)
 
Good episode! funny little moment - I was watching on my eyeTV in my bedroom, but because of the footy we had tea late so I was forced to watch Who about 4" away from my screen... just had to be when the Cyberman jumped out! I actually jumped back.

I did like that. recorded it. haven't seen the trailer just yet. sorta knew all that was coming. but the whole "sphere" theory was excellent. a ship that travels between dimensions! top dog.

To be honest I thought big, red and horny was going to return. That ball made me think of some kind of compressed black hole. like it was "frozen" or something. and he was inside. waiting.

EDIT= nevermind just watched the trailer. Genesis ark aye? good name.
 
^ you! shhh! some folks haven't seen it yet! some might have not seen the trailer! White text :p
 
Well, just watched tonight's episode - wow! What a cliffhanger! I have no idea how the Doctor & Co. is going to get out of this one... "Doomsday" should be an episode to remember. Mickey, Pete, Cybermen army, Daleks, Genesis Ark (whatever that is!), and of course Rose "dying"... :eek: :cool:

I'll add more detailed comments later I'm sure after I've had time to soak everything in, but for now, wow! :D :cool:
 
Theory about Doomsday:

The Daleks in the Void Ship were hiding in the void after the time war. The Genesis Ark is clearly a device for resurrecting, or recreating the Dalek race. I predict it is designed to convert the DNA of a species (humans in this case), perhaps with a good dose of raditation for starters, into Dalek creatures but the Doctor sets it to alter and kill the Cybermen instead. How the daleks are destroyed I can not guess, piece of Torchwood tech I suppose.

Shame to see the (a) Supreme Dalek killed again (the black one), hope it escapes :p

Oh and how good was Army Of Ghosts! Best new series episode yet. Russell T Davies's vision of Doctor Who is finally fully paying off.
 
Well, I was glued to BBC 1 yesterday as the events unfolded – some top drama mixed with moments of horror and disbelief, and an ending that left you staring at the screen thinking "What now – where do we go from here?"

Anyway, that's enough about the England match – once that was over it was time for Doctor Who! :cool:

So, my thoughts about last night's episode, as visible as England's involvement in the next round...I enjoyed it. It was a bit more slowly paced than I expected it would be, but it's ramping up the tension nicely for next week's final episode. And I have no doubt that the sight of a family cowering on their stairs as the Cybermen tear through their home to get them will have led to a large number of the nation's children having problems sleeping last night. :D

As for the Daleks and the sphere... a couple of points that sprung to mind. The sphere, as the Doctor explained, is a method of travelling outside of all known dimensions – it's possible that it was used by the Daleks to place a number of their race outside of our dimension. After all, a foe like the Time Lords is able to manipulate time and remove a race from existence, so placing a Dalek squad in the void outside of their influence would be a wise insurance policy. This could then indicate that the 'Genesis Ark' is a device for cloning more Dalek mutants, allowing them to repopulate their species?

The sphere being Dalek also throws something else up. The Doctor said that such a device was impossible and that he'd never seen anything like it before – and yet the Daleks have (at least) one. Is this a sign that Dalek technology and knowledge has somehow surpassed that of the Time Lords? :eek:

And did my ears deceive me or was was that a Jaffa Sun Glider Torchwood had captured? I didn't realise I'd mislaid one but if they'd be so kind as to return it to me that would be very much appreciated.

~Shard~ said:
What a cliffhanger! I have no idea how the Doctor & Co. is going to get out of this one...
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Hopefully more in the manner of The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances than Rise of the Cyberman/Age of Steel. ;)
 
You can bet on it the Daleks, and Cybermen, will be destroyed at the end of "Doomsday". Over the years of Doctor Who from the First Doctor to the Tenth - the Daleks always get defeated only to return again and again!

The Daleks are the Doctor's biggest enemies and the show wouldn't be the same without them though the Daleks obivously will reappear again somewhere in series 3 or 4. The Doctor will never see the last of them...
 
I wonder who the "him"is that the Daleks kill?

Rose's alter-dad? Micky? the Doctor?
 
Southerner said:
The Daleks are the Doctor's biggest enemies and the show wouldn't be the same without them though the Daleks obivously will reappear again somewhere in series 3 or 4. The Doctor will never see the last of them...
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Hopefully they are defeated by getting chucked back into the Void for a vast amount of time.
 
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