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Whoa! Close call. Caroline was counting on the usual BBC3 repeat (oddly enough she missed the last episode because she was at a music festival :D where she also contemplated buying a set of drums!). It's unlike the BBC to just throw away a repeat like that. This isn't Channel 4!
 
8 hours left :) I can't wait. And now Jekyll has been thrown into the fray. Ah, good ol BBC on Saturday nights :D
 
Can't wait for today's episode! Unfortunately I'll going on a road trip today and won't be back until tonight, so I'll be downloading it a good 12 hours later than I usually do...

One little thing that I thought of - Captain Jack said he basically had to wait 100 years for the Doctor to return. He knew what the TARDIS looked like and so forth, so why couldn't he have kept his ears to the ground etc and met up with the Doctor during the 60s, 70s, 80s? Especially when the Timelords disabled the dematerialization circuit and exiled the Doctor to Earth, you would have thought that Jack could have perhaps linked all the alien activity at the time with the Doctor - plus, it shouldn't have have been too hard to find the Doctor since he was with UNIT all the time as well...
 
I suppose the problem with hooking up with him in the 1970s or whenever would be that the Doctor wouldn't know him from Adam. He'd have to hope that the Doctor would believe his story and let him on the Tardis.

There's also the fact that if the Doctor told him to get lost, it would influence their later meeting and he perhaps wouldn't get taken from WWII London by the Ninth Doctor, creating a big paradoxy type thing. Given that he's effectively immortal, I reckon he thought it best to bide his time and wait somewhere where 'his' Doctor was bound to show up sooner or later. Besides, I can't imagine Jack wanting to miss any of the 1960s, what with it being the era of free love and all that... :p
 
It's written by Stephan Moffat, the same chap who wrote the rather good crying angels episode from a few weeks ago.

Yup. I'm getting increasingly fond of his writing. RTD's episodes seem to be filler episodes with minute references to the "arc word", or fan service episodes. I'm normally a fan of Matthew Graham for his work on The Last Train, but I really didn't like Fear Her. :eek:
 
Far more confusing is the fact that he's called Jack Harkness. If he's been hanging round for 100 years or so between the Daleks and Torchwood you can understand how he's got that name, but we know he'd already adopted the name prior to The Empty Child. So the actual Captain Jack must have met our Captain Jack at the same time as the immortal Captain Jack was on the Earth, knowing of the meeting et al. Therefore the non-immortal Captain Jack must have met the one he took his name off at some point after the time-slip Torchwood episode. In which case didn't the real Captain Jack recognise him?
 
Far more confusing is the fact that he's called Jack Harkness. If he's been hanging round for 100 years or so between the Daleks and Torchwood you can understand how he's got that name, but we know he'd already adopted the name prior to The Empty Child. So the actual Captain Jack must have met our Captain Jack at the same time as the immortal Captain Jack was on the Earth, knowing of the meeting et al. Therefore the non-immortal Captain Jack must have met the one he took his name off at some point after the time-slip Torchwood episode. In which case didn't the real Captain Jack recognise him?

You confuse me...
 
Jesus christ! That was an epic episode and so so cleverly written! My heart was beating faster than the drums.. Spoiler...

The spaceship in the sky is so smart! I just dont know what to say! But I wonder if the drumming noise would effect the iPhone?

Can't wait for the next episode!
 
this just keeps getting better and better

bravo

is it me or they can not keep up with this style all the time - Dr Who will end at series 4 and go out in style with a movie

thoughts?
 
Not too impressed with that one. I thought John Simm was good as The Master, who's always been a pantomime villain. But the rest of it? I'm not going to go into details because there are people here who won't have seen it yet, but there were one or two aspects of it that just seemed too contrived for my liking. Bit of a letdown after last week.
 
Well I liked it :eek: not as much as I normally do but that's to do with something else that I'll probably divulge on Monday.
The ol' White Text - I didn't like that song at the end though! Very naff indeed. But just after that when the proverbial feces hitting the metaphoric fan I did like. I'll be watching it again no doubt.
and I knew it! I knew there was a link with Saxon and that Lazarus thing. That logo/ring gave it all away.
 
Not very impressed with episode 12... felt like we'd been there before (with the Slitheen in Number 10) - and as a previous poster said, it was all bit too contrived and convenient.

Also, did anyone else get reminded of Red Dwarf when the Doctor and co. were running around behind the scenes on the aircraft carrier?

I will consider buying a Vauxhall Corsa though - those bullet-proof side windows are great! Submachineguns and assault rifles at close range should've shredded that car.
 
Hah, I was thinking more along the lines of "who puts purple bulbs in a spaceship?" :D

also - if them floating ball things turn into what I think they are then I will cry. Would also be a bit predictable. Please be something new :eek:
 
I just hope that The Doctor doesn't have to regenerate. I like David Tennant. :(

Oh, and when Martha says "thought you were going to say he was your secret brother or something" that was an interesting look Jack gave. :p
 
A so-so episode, I thought – not disappointingly dreadful but for me it didn't reach the heights of the past few installments. Hopefully things will pick up in next week's finale.

A few thoughts, masked by a cunningly constructed perception filter... :cool:

A bit of idle speculation to start off with... I'm guessing that the Toclofane are the Time Lord children who were sent mad by the vortex. It wouldn't surprise me given some of the nastier and darker aspects of Time Lord society that they'd quietly try to dispose of these 'failures', unable to brig themselves to kill them so instead imprisoning their crazy little minds in the void or an alternative dimension or something. I think the Master referred to them as 'kids' at one point, and they did seem to have a childlike way of talking. Mind, it doesn't explain why the orbs are fitted with blades and lasers...

That would also set us up for the Doctor to have to face an emotional dilemma – save the Earth but destroy the last remnants of the Time Lords. RTD laps that sort emotional cliffhanger right up. ;)

I did like the little conversation between the Doctor, Martha and Jack about the Doctor and Master's past –*I suppose that puts to bed the "Doctor and master are brothers" debate that's been going on for 30-odd years, unless of course the Doc was fibbing. :p

And the poor Tardis – the old girl didn't look well at all. It was quite poignant too, hearing the cloister bell ringing away... like the Tardis had spent the last 18 months calling out for help but no one came. It doesn't look like the sort of thing that can be easily rectified – and the 'next time' trailer shows a large explosion in the console room – does this mean that we could see the Doctor Earthbound for a spell while he fixes his machine, a lá Pertwee?


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