SJA was actually better than I was expecting, once they got past the first Slitheen story, and not that much more kiddie than Who is. The show's format, with its 1/2 hour, cliffhanger-serial thing, is more Who than Who is these days....
--Eric
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SJA was actually better than I was expecting, once they got past the first Slitheen story, and not that much more kiddie than Who is. The show's format, with its 1/2 hour, cliffhanger-serial thing, is more Who than Who is these days....
--Eric
Stab me. Stab me in the eyes.
If the rumors are true, this means we're going to have a Russel-a-thon with Rose, Sarah Jane, Martha, K9, the Rani, Davros, probably Donna, with a chance of Astrid and sundries such as Jackie, Mickey, Sam, Martha's family, and maybe Captain Jack. Oh, God, I never knew so much wanking was possible for a man.
Yes this does seem to confirm the "everything but the kitchen sink" finale rumours that have been circulating
JB let it slip that Capt' Jack will be appearing late in series 4
and there are rumours that Sarah Jane will also be back.
I don't really have a problem with it, but knowing something big is coming kinda over-shadows the first half of the series.
JB let it slip that Capt' Jack will be appearing late in series 4
and there are rumours that Sarah Jane will also be back.
I don't really have a problem with it, but knowing something big is coming kinda over-shadows the first half of the series.
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I didn't think so at all. Not everyone is a fan of Fincher, granted, but I quite enjoy his style - if you do not, that's fine of course. I also thought returning to the original premise of a captive group facing a lone alien predator was a fitting way to end the series, taking it back to its roots. The use of devices such as foreshadowing and such really added to the story and Ripley sacrificing herself brought a fitting closure to the saga - or so I thought... In any case, even if one is not a fan of the 3rd installment, to say that Alien 3 ruined the series is somewhat excessive. Back on topic though...
The style was fine. But that's all it was for me...all style, no substance. Boring script and characters, boring atmosphere, not scary at all, did nothing interesting with the concept. So yeah: ruined.
--Eric
The style was fine. But that's all it was for me...all style, no substance. Boring script and characters, boring atmosphere, not scary at all, did nothing interesting with the concept. So yeah: ruined.
--Eric
Haha, fair enough! I have to agree there wasn't much for characters either, for me it was more the atmosphere, symbolism, etc.
We'll leave it at that.
No thoughts posted yet on the Christmas Special?
I just couldn't get into it myself. I tired, trust me, but it just didn't do it for me. I realize being that it's the Christmas Special, it perhaps is allowed to be a little more cheesy than usual, but I still found it to be simply too much. Usually I roll my eyes a couple times in a Who episode, but my eyes were getting tired after watching this one. I was watching it with a friend, and was almost embarrassed as we exposed so many plot holes, deus ex machina, etc. throughout the story. This episode also reminded me of how sappy and over-the-top (perhaps overconfident?) RTD has become as well...
So, a disappointing thumbs down from me for the Christmas Special this year.
That being said, I hope Season 4 turns out to be a great one. The potential is there in my opinion - more Daleks I'm sure, the return of Martha, the return of the Sontarans, perhaps the Master will return in female form after the ending from last season, perhaps some episodes involving the Time War... lots of potential...
And of course, if they do in fact get into the Time War as the season-ending 2-parter, this will conveniently explain how Rose and her family can return. Too bad, really, as I thought they ended that story very well. Bringing her back sort of cheapens things, if you ask me. Plus, having the Runaway Bride, Martha and Rose all back for the finale will probably just get too much, especially if RTD is writing it. Hell, might as well throw Sarah Jane in there as well!
So, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Season 4 brings us. Let's hope it's a good one!
I just couldn't get into it myself. I tired, trust me, but it just didn't do it for me. I realize being that it's the Christmas Special, it perhaps is allowed to be a little more cheesy than usual, but I still found it to be simply too much. Usually I roll my eyes a couple times in a Who episode, but my eyes were getting tired after watching this one.
I was watching it with a friend, and was almost embarrassed as we exposed so many plot holes, deus ex machina, etc. throughout the story. This episode also reminded me of how sappy and over-the-top (perhaps overconfident?) RTD has become as well... So, a disappointing thumbs down from me for the Christmas Special this year.
That being said, I hope Season 4 turns out to be a great one. The potential is there in my opinion - more Daleks I'm sure, the return of Martha, the return of the Sontarans, perhaps the Master will return in female form after the ending from last season, perhaps some episodes involving the Time War... lots of potential...
And of course, if they do in fact get into the Time War as the season-ending 2-parter, this will conveniently explain how Rose and her family can return. Too bad, really, as I thought they ended that story very well. Bringing her back sort of cheapens things, if you ask me. Plus, having the Runaway Bride, Martha and Rose all back for the finale will probably just get too much, especially if RTD is writing it. Hell, might as well throw Sarah Jane in there as well!
So, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what Season 4 brings us. Let's hope it's a good one!
I thought the Christmas Special was particularly campy and i felt it was a bit much and a bit fan service...
I'll take seeing Doctor Who over not seeing it tho.
I'll take seeing Doctor Who over not seeing it tho.
Yeah, I thought the Christmas Special was a little disappointing. It had some good moments but overall I wasn't really taken with it. However, what I was really looking forward to was the 'coming soon' trailer at he end of the episode.
We already knew about the return of the Sontarans, plus we saw Raquel from Coronation Street wielding what appeared to be a sonic screwdriver no doubt leading to a lot of 'the Rani's coming back' rumours.
No sign of Davros, though although Max Capricorn did remind me of him, wheeling around in a life-support wheelchair thingy, served by an army of death-dealing mechanical monsters... a bit of foreshadowing for the upcoming series, perhaps?
We already knew about the return of the Sontarans, plus we saw Raquel from Coronation Street wielding what appeared to be a sonic screwdriver no doubt leading to a lot of 'the Rani's coming back' rumours.
No sign of Davros, though although Max Capricorn did remind me of him, wheeling around in a life-support wheelchair thingy, served by an army of death-dealing mechanical monsters... a bit of foreshadowing for the upcoming series, perhaps?
Either the Rani, or, as I alluded to in my previous post, perhaps a female incarnation of the Master?
A female grabbed the Master's ring at the end of last season, so... No sign of Davros, though – although Max Capricorn did remind me of him, wheeling around in a life-support wheelchair thingy, served by an army of death-dealing mechanical monsters... a bit of foreshadowing for the upcoming series, perhaps?
We can only hope!
And was that hand not wearing red nail varnish as Raquel from Coronation Street was in the trailer? The plot thickens...Either the Rani, or, as I alluded to in my previous post, perhaps a female incarnation of the Master?
Perhaps the Master's "female friend" was not just a friend from the get-go and was actually the Rani, somehow hiding her Timelord-ness from the Doctor...
Personally though I think it would be a cool twist to see her back as the Master or at least possessed by the Master. The Rani would be cool of course as well, but how would they explain her also being under the Doctor's radar when it comes to sensing surviving Timelords?
As a final thought for now (and to possibly further complicate things!) RTD did make the comment that he wanted to slowly introduce the Doctor's old enemies season by season. Season 1 = Daleks, Season 2 = Cybermen, Season 3 = The Master, Season 4 = ??? I guess the Sontarans and possibly Davros would fit into this plan, but perhaps the Rani as well?...
Astonishingly bad. This Special was so clumsy a script from a writer who should really know better (if one goes only by his extensive experience). RTD's rare creative moments, such as his gunshy Britain or the occasional oneliner that doesn't fall so flat it's as two-dimensional as his plotting, are dwarfed horribly by the lazy premise. The episode, from about the meteor impacts on, was so horribly unoriginal that entire catchphrases, such as the chant "kill, kill, kill" that the robots utter can be discovered wholesale in The Robots of Death, from which the story inherits almost all of its setup. Same goes for the robot's arm caught in the bridge door, an image similarly lifted. The rest is borrowed from Enlightenment, another original series episode, leaving almost nothing but the fecal deposition of awkward "character moments" that so completely characterizes RTD's style.
That Davies is one of the most successful writers in Great Britain is proof that life is ironic at its core.
That Davies is one of the most successful writers in Great Britain is proof that life is ironic at its core.
I do think that posts like this, are much more entertaining if you imagine the Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons is reading it out
"worst Xmas special evah"
etc
Ornate golden robots off on a killing spree? You know, watching Voyage Of The Damned I had exactly the same thought...
I don't Know why people keep going on about the Rani?
She seemed like a very second division villain
I can only barely remember her ( the truth is i don't remember much Doctor Who from the 80's apart from Nicola Bryant in a bikini
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I don't Know why people keep going on about the Rani?
She seemed like a very second division villain
I can only barely remember her ( the truth is i don't remember much Doctor Who from the 80's apart from Nicola Bryant in a bikini
Yeah, my guess would still be on it being the Master, not the Rani, but we'll see.
And yes, Peri was hot. Annoying, but hot.
My bet would be on neither, to be honest.Yeah, my guess would still be on it being the Master, not the Rani, but we'll see.
I'm thinking Raquel from Coronation Street is a bit of a red herring. My prediction is that she'll turn out to be a normal human-type – possibly with some Saxon or Torchwood connection through which she's got her hands on a sonic screwdriver, if indeed that's what it is. I wouldn't put it past the production team to put together the clips of this character in the trailer to try and mislead us a bit, making us think that she's the Rani.
Meanwhile, I reckon Bernard Cribbins will return and be revealed as none other than the Meddling Monk – that newspaper kiosk was in fact his Tardis, cunningly disguised. You read it here first.
My bet would be on neither, to be honest.
To clarify, I guess I was meaning between the two, I would bet on the Master over the Rani. I agree that with such a short clip it is impossible to know for sure, as it can so easily be manipulated and/or taken out of proper context.
Meanwhile, I reckon Bernard Cribbins will return and be revealed as none other than the Meddling Monk that newspaper kiosk was in fact his Tardis, cunningly disguised. You read it here first.
Maybe he's the Valeyard.
Nah, now you're just being silly.Maybe he's the Valeyard.
Actually, the clue's in the picture. He's a new Time Lord – the Examiner!
Nah, now you're just being silly.
Gotcha: Valeyard = silly, Meddling Monk = not silly. What was I thinking?
Can we at least agree there's a chance he might be Rassilon?
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