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The Moffat-written episodes really do stand out as classier don't they? I enjoyed that, even the sub-plot as to what Donna was experiencing. Set it nicely up for the ending.

And a brilliant Wibbly-Wobbly Timey-Wimey line running throughout :)
 
Thing is though...**spoiler**
Book yes, screwdriver no is my guess, since he took that downstairs with him. The library is being abandoned to the Vashta Nerada, so surely nobody will find the diary other than them. Could it explain their sudden push for universal domination in the upcoming Rose episodes maybe? "The Darkness is coming" and all that?
 
True enough... the modded screwdriver is still connected to the computer core I guess. I suppose that would leave any self-respecting finalé super villain looking for a sonic device for his nefarious plans to rummage around in that litterbin for Miss Foster's sonic pen. That's another item that I suspect we might be seeing again at some point. ;)
 
First the screwdriver in the bin and now this one. At this rate I'll be finding one in a few years!
 
Excellent episode(s). To be honest I thought his relationship with Alex Kingston's character was obvious in the first one and the only disappointing part of that was the very small degree of plagiarism that showed to a popular book from a few years ago (The Time Traveller's Wife) - excellent book which throws up lots of interesting ideas about time travel.

Ending was a little mushy. I'm guessing that Song couldn't be re-materialised because it was only her neural impression that was saved as opposed to her physical person. Are we to assume that the computer nabbed everyone as they went because it was never mentioned at the time which is always a bit of a cheat.
 
jimN – they did mention... about how the explorers members ended up in the computer system. When Miss Evangelista was speaking to Donna she mentioned that the Library's wifi was able to pick up the data ghosts and save them. It wasn't as reliable a system as the normal teleport system used to save the others though, hence the errors that had crept in to her appearance and intelligence.
 
Not a bad 2nd part, I suppose.

But...How did the Dr. survive the jump down to the core without the gravity platform?
 
Episode 12 title confirmed
the title of the previously unnamed penultimate episode of series 4 has been released today, it's not very spoiler-ish but i'll white it out just in case

Doctor Who – The Stolen Earth Ep 12/13
Saturday 28 June
7.00-7.45pm BBC ONE



Earth's greatest heroes assemble in a time of dire need, in tonight's penultimate episode in this series of Russell T Davies's Bafta Award-winning time-travelling drama. But can the Doctor's secret army defeat the might of the new Dalek Empire?

With battles on the streets and in the skies, the Doctor and Donna must brave the Shadow Proclamation to find out the truth. However, a fearsome old enemy waits in the shadows...

David Tennant plays the Doctor and Catherine Tate plays his companion, Donna Noble.


The title doesn't really give anything away, wonder why they held it back?
 
I have one question regarding the last epsiode. If the computer was "saving people" my understanding is that it was essentially saving an "image" of them inside its VR matrix-like world, correct? Well, how then did it physically reconstruct everyone? In other words, what happened to their bodies, since their bodies couldn't physically exist inside the computer's hard drive? Even if the computer had all the details possibly on a person's physical make-up, etc., how did it go about reconstructing them via the teleporter? :confused:

Regardless, great second-parter. :cool:
 
As I understand it, all those people using the teleporters at once (in an attempt to escape) caused the system to crash. Their physical bodies were broken down into streams of data that would have been reassembled had they rematerialised properly at their intended destination. Unable to send them on CAL saved these streams of data and, once the Vashta Nerada were out of the way, finally used them to rematerialise the hapless library goers.

Essentially I suppose it was a normal teleport, only with a huge delay between dematerialisation and rematerialisation. :p

I suppose it's a bit like that episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation which had Scotty in it. He survived years and years of being trapped on his crashed ship by using the transporter to dematerialise himself and save his atoms and constituent bits in the transporter buffer.
 
I have one question regarding the last epsiode. If the computer was "saving people" my understanding is that it was essentially saving an "image" of them inside its VR matrix-like world, correct? Well, how then did it physically reconstruct everyone? In other words, what happened to their bodies, since their bodies couldn't physically exist inside the computer's hard drive? Even if the computer had all the details possibly on a person's physical make-up, etc., how did it go about reconstructing them via the teleporter? :confused:

Regardless, great second-parter. :cool:

I thought it mentioned that their memories were stored on the computer while their corporeal bodies were converted to energy and left drifting around somewhere in the Library.

Makes some sense, in order to teleport the body it had to be converted to energy and then "beamed" somewhere for re-materialization while the memories were stored then reloaded. Since the energy/matter cannot be created or destroyed it just hung around until it was safe to reconstitute the bodies and reload the memories.
 
"Genesis of the Daleks" is one of my favourite storylines for a number of reasons ;), not sure if the forthcoming finale will come up to my expectations, thanks for the links DAC47 though. The recent two parter which I've just watched was pretty much excellent, be afraid of the dark!.
 
Oh by the way, does anybody know if there's any historical significance to the... Red Dalek in the second picture?





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