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Jaffa Cake said:
It may have been more fun, but (and correct me if I'm wrong) isn't '601' the twelfth ranking here at MacRumors? Don't forget, you only get twelve regenerations and then you're a goner... ;)
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Damn, you're right - good catch! Although 601 is the 12th ranking, so that would only equate to 11 regenerations, meaning I'd have one left still. And thankfully, it doesn't look like rankings beyond 601 kick in until the 10,000 post mark most likely, so I should be good for a while yet... phew! ;) :cool:
 
Awesome, thanks for the link Jaffa Cake! Sounds like it should be a great season. A couple interesting things though:

1) If Sarah Jane comes back, what about K-9? She was given K-9 a s a present by the 4th Doctor - will we see "man's best friend" again?

2) The article says the Cybermen will return, yet I seem to recall Russell T. Davies stating himself that they decided not to have the Cybermen return because they "weren't scary enough" anymore - I believe he made the comment in reference to the Dalek episode when the Cyberman's head is on display in the museum. Curious...

For anyone too lazy to click on the link, here's the pic:
 
I did wonder about the possibility of K-9 returning, too – although I'm sure they'd have mentioned him if it were the case. I would have thought it would catch the public's imagination more than than Sarah Jane, and would likely have got a couple of column inches in the papers. Unless of course they're waiting until a little closer to transmission before announcing his return... I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

I know too that Russell T. Davies said the Cybermen wouldn't be back – but I also remember Steve Jobs saying flash-based MP3 players were a waste of time. ;) To be honest I always found them more scary than the Daleks – they'd just kill you but the Cybermen would actually make you one of them. I suppose that the success of the Dalek episodes has boosted his confidence in bringing back another classic baddie, and it never hurts to keep the fans wanting...

As for the outfit... not bad, but you can never really tell until you see it in 'action'. A few people on various Who forums had predicted Tennant might go for a 'Troughton' style look – smartish but dishevelled – and they're not a million miles away I suppose.
 
Jaffa Cake said:
I did wonder about the possibility of K-9 returning, too – although I'm sure they'd have mentioned him if it were the case. I would have thought it would catch the public's imagination more than than Sarah Jane, and would likely have got a couple of column inches in the papers. Unless of course they're waiting until a little closer to transmission before announcing his return... I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.
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Yes, we'll have to see. To me though, it's the perfect opportunity to have K-9 in the show, as I think he would be quite popular for any new fans, and a nice dose of nostalgia (along with Ms. Smith!) for us "original" viewers.

Jaffa Cake said:
I know too that Russell T. Davies said the Cybermen wouldn't be back – but I also remember Steve Jobs saying flash-based MP3 players were a waste of time. ;) To be honest I always found them more scary than the Daleks – they'd just kill you but the Cybermen would actually make you one of them. I suppose that the success of the Dalek episodes has boosted his confidence in bringing back another classic baddie, and it never hurts to keep the fans wanting...
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True, Davies is of course entitled to change his mind! :) I always liked the Cybermen as well, so it'll be cool to see them return. I wonder if the Daleks will return or not, what with the outcome of the final episode last season and all.

Speaking about bringing back classic baddies, I just finished downloading the Pertwee episode "Terror of the Autons" - it was quite cool to see the mannequins again just as in this past season's first episode. ;)

Jaffa Cake said:
As for the outfit... not bad, but you can never really tell until you see it in 'action'. A few people on various Who forums had predicted Tennant might go for a 'Troughton' style look – smartish but dishevelled – and they're not a million miles away I suppose.
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Yah, I guess that could be an accurate description. Like you say though, I think we'll just have to wait until we see it in action. :cool: I wonder what the general audience's reaction to Tennant willl be since he's so young - all the other Doctors (save Eccelston) have always been more mature (in age at least!) And Tennant wasn't even born when Doctor Who first aired! ;)
 
~Shard~ said:
If Sarah Jane comes back, what about K-9? She was given K-9 a s a present by the 4th Doctor - will we see "man's best friend" again?
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The Beeb has announced today that K9 will indeed be making a return alongside Sarah Jane.

The link also includes the following tidbit...

K9 and Sarah Jane will join the Doctor and his current sidekicks, Rose and Mickey, in a fight against the evil Krillitanes.

So... is Mickey going to be joining the Doctor and Rose as a regular companion?
 
I have to say that as a kid I liked Sarah Jane (oh alright I had a big crush on her) but thought that K9 was too far fetched even for my imagination and I hated his voice as well, I didn't even bother to watch their spin off series.
 
HydroMan said:
I have to say that as a kid I liked Sarah Jane (oh alright I had a big crush on her) but thought that K9 was too far fetched even for my imagination and I hated his voice as well, I didn't even bother to watch their spin off series.
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There wasn't any spin off series. Just a pilot. Apparently they realized most people weren't likely to watch it either....

--Eric
 
Jaffa Cake said:
The Beeb has announced today that K9 will indeed be making a return alongside Sarah Jane.

The link also includes the following tidbit...

K9 and Sarah Jane will join the Doctor and his current sidekicks, Rose and Mickey, in a fight against the evil Krillitanes.

So... is Mickey going to be joining the Doctor and Rose as a regular companion?
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Thanks for the link, that's good news. I actually always liked K-9, as impractical at times he may have been. ;) I'm glad to hear this is happening though for consistency's sake if nothing else - if Sarah Jane is back, you gotta have K-9 too! :)

Should be an interesting Season 28... :cool:
 
Hmm, and while my mind is now back on Doctor Who, I had another thought regarding "The Parting of the Ways" after recently watching it again.

I think I previously mentioned how I was unsure how Rose lived through having the temporal vortex flowing through her, yet it "killed" the Doctor. Beyond this though, if all it took was to have the "life" of the TARDIS inside Rose to end up wiping out the entire Dalek fleet, why couldn't a Time Lord have done this during the Time War? I mean, they're freakin' Time Lords, why wouldn't one of them sacrifice a regeneration, do the exact same thing Rose did, and wipe out all the Daleks then and there? I guess I still don't quite see how the Daleks would be a match for the Time Lords, but ah well, it's all good... ;) :cool:
 
This is the longest thread I've ever started! Huzzah!

I must say though, my interest in season 28 is.... unfortunately minimal. I found series 27 to be too family-oriented for my liking. I've only seen bits and bobs of Doctor Who over the years, but I also listened to a couple of shows on the Radio too and they always scared the bejesus out of me!

This series just wasnt scary, it was.... tame :(
 
hob said:
This is the longest thread I've ever started! Huzzah!
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And an excellent thread it is! :)

hob said:
I must say though, my interest in season 28 is.... unfortunately minimal. I found series 27 to be too family-oriented for my liking. I've only seen bits and bobs of Doctor Who over the years, but I also listened to a couple of shows on the Radio too and they always scared the bejesus out of me!

This series just wasnt scary, it was.... tame :(
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Are you sure it isn't just because you saw the earlier Who's when you were younger? Or is this not the case at all? Actually, truth be told, I agree with you - I found the older Doctor Who's a bit more edgy as well. Even though the special effects, costumes, sets, etc. may have been more "amateur", it still did have that "darker" feel sometimes. I still remember "Resurrection of the Daleks" with Davison for instance - that episode holds the record for the highest death count of any Who series EVER - I think it even had more kills than Terminator. :eek:

That being said, I still liked Season 27 - very good writing and very good stories. But in all fairness, it is tough to compete with the classic, original series. As for Season 28, I'm excited to see it, but I do have a few small concerns on how Tennant will do in the role - I guess time will tell... :rolleyes: ;) :cool:
 
~Shard~ said:
...if all it took was to have the "life" of the TARDIS inside Rose to end up wiping out the entire Dalek fleet, why couldn't a Time Lord have done this during the Time War? I mean, they're freakin' Time Lords, why wouldn't one of them sacrifice a regeneration, do the exact same thing Rose did, and wipe out all the Daleks then and there? I guess I still don't quite see how the Daleks would be a match for the Time Lords, but ah well, it's all good...
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Interesting point. Maybe no Time Lord has 'merged' with his TARDIS in this way before, so maybe it just didn't occur to them as an option? In anycase, there's still a hell of a lot we don't know about the Time War (including, as you mention, how the Daleks became powerful enough to challenge the Time Lords so effectively) – maybe some of these questions will be answered across the next couple of series?
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Interesting point. Maybe no Time Lord has 'merged' with his TARDIS in this way before, so maybe it just didn't occur to them as an option? In anycase, there's still a hell of a lot we don't know about the Time War (including, as you mention, how the Daleks became powerful enough to challenge the Time Lords so effectively) – maybe some of these questions will be answered across the next couple of series?
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Yeah, I had thought that too, that maybe no Time Lord had "merged" with his TARDIS, but wouldn't they at least have the knowledge or awareness of that potential? They may be arrogant, but they're not dummies. ;)

And yes, you're right, we don't know a lot about the Time War, so maybe more will be revealed next Season - it would definitely be appreciated! Although personally I would almost prefer not to see the Daleks again next season - showing them too often seems to diminish their presence for me - even last season, they just didn't seem quite as scary and dark as I remember them from the classic series. I just don't want them going the way of the Borg in ST:TNG - they basically lost their impact.
 
Just thought I'd revive this thread for fun. ;)

I have started watching the Pertwee series again from scratch and have noticed a couple interesting things so far, only 3 episodes in.

In "Spearhead From Space", The Brigadier cannot enter the TARDIS even with the TARDIS key, and the Doctor explains the key/lock is actually "metabolic", apparently only working for the Doctor. How does this work then when he gives a key to a companion and they have been able to enter? Even recently, with Rose this was the case. I seem to remember the Rani just barging in too, when she caused the 6th Doctor to regenerate.

In "Doctor Who and the Silurians", the Doctor refers to his lifetime, and mentions it's "thousands of years". Yet in the new series, the 9th Doctor refers to being 900 years old. Interesting...

I also found this interesting from the perspective that if the 3rd Doctor was really thousands of years old, his first regenerations must have lasted ages, and much longer than his subsequent incarnations. Because from the point of view of the series, it does not take the Doctor thousands of years to regenerate, unless we assume the time he had no companions lasted a LONG time - otherwise, his companions don't age significantly, so we must assume his adventures with them all occur in a relatively short amount of time. Not sure if this makes sense or not, but just an observation. :cool:
 
~Shard~ said:
In "Doctor Who and the Silurians", the Doctor refers to his lifetime, and mentions it's "thousands of years". Yet in the new series, the 9th Doctor refers to being 900 years old. Interesting...
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Maybe it depends on which planet's years he's talking about... ;)

The age thing was something I'd been thinking about with the new series – the 900 years tally is mentioned on quite a few occasions, and I was pretty sure that he was supposed to be older than that based on what had been said in the 'classic' series. But you know what people get like when they reach a certain age – they start lying to make themselves seem younger...

There are some more thoughts on the Doctor's age on his Wikipedia page.
 
Jaffa Cake said:
Maybe it depends on which planet's years he's talking about... ;)

The age thing was something I'd been thinking about with the new series – the 900 years tally is mentioned on quite a few occasions, and I was pretty sure that he was supposed to be older than that based on what had been said in the 'classic' series. But you know what people get like when they reach a certain age – they start lying to make themselves seem younger...

There are some more thoughts on the Doctor's age on his Wikipedia page.
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Yes, that's a good point, I suppose it's all relative - perhaps he either forgets or chooses to forget about his real age at times... I still think it would be cool if he was actually the Zero-th Doctor (or at least not the 9th), but I realize this isn't the case, and I realize this wouldn't work either. ;) Thanks for the link though, interesting read. :)

Only 3 months until the Xmas Special! :cool:
 
Jaffa Cake said:
The age thing was something I'd been thinking about with the new series – the 900 years tally is mentioned on quite a few occasions, and I was pretty sure that he was supposed to be older than that based on what had been said in the 'classic' series.
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Depends on what point in the "classic" series...in one of the Colin Baker episodes, he says something about being a 900-year-old Time Lord. They seemed to have come to some sort of "official" tally about the time of the fourth or fifth Doctor; before that, it was whatever the writer said it was at the time. Heck, at the very beginning, he was just a eccentric human time traveller for all anyone really knew....

--Eric
 
Eric5h5 said:
Depends on what point in the "classic" series...in one of the Colin Baker episodes, he says something about being a 900-year-old Time Lord. They seemed to have come to some sort of "official" tally about the time of the fourth or fifth Doctor; before that, it was whatever the writer said it was at the time. Heck, at the very beginning, he was just a eccentric human time traveller for all anyone really knew....

--Eric
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Ah yes, the Meddling Mionk - they had to change some of that in the series...

I guess it is all relative. When the Doctor has mentioned years before, he could be referring to a) his lifetime, b) the amount of timer he's actually been traveling, c) the amount of time relative to the time he is currently in (unliekly though), or d) the amount of time relative to where he is (i.e. Human years vs. Gallifreyan years).

From the link above:

In the serial The Tomb of the Cybermen the Second Doctor told Victoria that he was around 450 years old. The Second Doctor was also seen to carry around a 500-year diary in which he kept notes.

By the time of The Brain of Morbius, the Fourth Doctor was stated to be 749 years old ("something like 750 years" in the prior Pyramids of Mars). In The Ribos Operation, the first Romana said the Doctor was 759 years old and had been piloting the TARDIS for 523 years, making him 236 when he first "borrowed" it. In Revelation of the Daleks the Sixth Doctor was 900 years old, and in Time and the Rani, the Seventh Doctor's age was the same as the Rani's, namely 953. In Remembrance of the Daleks the Seventh Doctor said that he had "900 years’ experience" rewiring alien equipment. In the 1996 television movie, the Eighth Doctor kept a 900-year diary in his TARDIS.
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Interesting, fun stuff. :)
 
Kay, thanks to our lovely torrent sites, I now have every single episode of Doctor Who since 1963, with the exception of the missing Troughton ones - I estimate about 175 GB worth of video! :eek: If anyone needs a copy... ;) :cool:
 
~Shard~ said:
Kay, thanks to our lovely torrent sites, I now have every single episode of Doctor Who since 1963, with the exception of the missing Troughton ones - I estimate about 175 GB worth of video! :eek: If anyone needs a copy... ;) :cool:
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Please don't take this as a personal insult ;)....but ~Shard~, mate, buddy, really, are you insane?! :eek: :p ;)
 
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