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The old Intel model is almost 300% of Max for gaming FPS
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Nope. Over 50 tabs of YouTube with no slowdown. You are doing something wrong. My 16gb model flies (and my 10900k beats your expensive 5900x). Talk about value...
He said this M1 Pro Max is only good for 1 h 30 minutes gaming. This sounds not so amazing for me, for an arm soc, because a power supply is still a need, if you want use this laptop for several hours with high demands. I thought it will allowing high performance for ~4 hours.
Gaming is a different load than general computing or video watching. Gaming runs the CPU and GPU constantly. It's a tough heavy load.
But you'll notice that the gaming laptop lost 9% battery just running that gaming benchmark... while the 16" MBP only used 2% of its battery. So of those two laptops... the MBP would last longer on battery.
The MBP has a bigger battery... but it's also because the ARM chips are very efficient.
I'm not sure "gaming on battery" is what Apple was going for when they designed these laptops... yet you keep mentioning it for some reason. ?
The truth is... NO gaming laptops last a long time on battery. Period. It's pretty much understood that you're gonna be plugged in to do serious gaming.
In normal non-gaming tasks... the 16" Apple Silicon MPB gets 10-11 hours of battery life... versus 5-6 hours on the 2019 Intel model. And the new models do it with less heat and hardly any fan noise.
Once again... showcasing the super-efficient Apple Silicon chips in these machines.
If you're upset that these new Macbooks only get 1.5 hours of gaming on battery... I'm not sure what to tell you.
I thought Macs weren't for gaming anyway? Buy a Windows gaming laptop. But you'll have to plug it in...
Both have to be plugged in. And there is no benchmark about the aging of the battery. When the macbook pro battery got older it will be much earlier empty. The swapping of the battery i a pain on apple laptops. For most otherlaptops it's pretty easy. Only a power cable detaching and removing a strip or screw mounting than its out. For mbp you have to remove the trackpad also.
Then they're both trash!
Or they're the same?
What the hell are we doing here?
Something something right-to-repair.
Goddamn son... just buy a Windows laptop. Clearly these Macbook Pros aren't for you. And that's fine!
Stop wearing out the MacRumors server with this pointless thread!
Yep, both are not very suitable for mobile usage at heavy load. Ideling or low performance use cases are another matter.
You are like others here, if someone is mentioning the significant disadvantages of the macbook, they say always: "The mac is not for you, buy a pc!".
You are like others here, if someone is mentioning the significant disadvantages of the macbook, they say always: "The mac is not for you, buy a pc!".
Yep, that's correct, gaming is pulling more power than single cpu/gpu use cases, but it shows what is happening when both units are under load.
The arm soc has many disadvantages, a much better battery life (it must be initially much, much better, because of battery aging) would be a main advantage. This is gone under full load.
10+ hours when only surfing. Nice.
The arm soc has many disadvantages, a much better battery life (it must be initially much, much better, because of battery aging) would be a main advantage. This is gone under full load.
10+ hours when only surfing. Nice.
Better at what? Games?
You know what’s also much better than both at games? My PlayStation 5. And it cost 6x less!
I don’t know how you can accept this.
Also, my air conditioner is much better at regulating my room temperature than the M1 Max. I mean, that thing can barely keep itself warm, let alone the entire appartment!
When I think about it, a lot of things are better at specific tasks than the M1 Max! The only thing the M1 Max is best at is, you know, what it was made for. But for climate control, cooking, gaming, frisbee throwing, snow gliding - and I believe many, many more activities - there are much better devices out there.
Maybe you can accept this but I can not. You deserve much better!
I just remembered - the old Intel Macs were also 300% better as white noise machines than the new M1 Macs.
Better at what? Games?
You know what’s also much better than both at games? My PlayStation 5. And it cost 6x less!
I don’t know how you can accept this.
Also, my air conditioner is much better at regulating my room temperature than the M1 Max. I mean, that thing can barely keep itself warm, let alone the entire appartment!
When I think about it, a lot of things are better at specific tasks than the M1 Max! The only thing the M1 Max is best at is, you know, what it was made for. But for climate control, cooking, gaming, frisbee throwing, snow gliding - and I believe many, many more activities - there are much better devices out there.
Maybe you can accept this but I can not. You deserve much better!
Almost no app is totally rewritten for M1, so it does not help much other than benchmark or boot up macros. People have all kinds of problems with M1 because it is like a lab product, welcome to be the lab white mice.
But if finalcut is the most important thing you have to do on this macbook it's worth it.
For me it's an office laptop, with long(er) battery life and good audience when using it for office things.
One of the problems is the memory usage when using browser tabs.
www.techradar.com
It's also safari, not only chrome and firefox.
For me it's an office laptop, with long(er) battery life and good audience when using it for office things.
One of the problems is the memory usage when using browser tabs.
Move over Chrome, macOS Monterey is the new RAM-eating monster in town
Memory leaks are causing issues with macOS Monterey
It's also safari, not only chrome and firefox.
Yes, and the real-life experiences where people report amazing performance at every level is a part of a global conspiracy. They are experimenting on us.
They even modified the M1 Pro Macs I've tried to work incredibly fast, just to fool me. It was probably Intel chips hidden inside.
It's ok, I've been called a sheep so many times, it's refreshing to be compared to a new animal this time. It's also white, though. Can I be something brown next time?
Cool, a whole thread of 350+ posts based off an error.
I'll add my take - the older MBP were better at cutting pizza with its sharper edges, keeping my lap warm, and drowning out my dogs barking with the loud fans.
I'll add my take - the older MBP were better at cutting pizza with its sharper edges, keeping my lap warm, and drowning out my dogs barking with the loud fans.
Youtubers got the pro for free of course need to say something good if they want to keep getting free Apple stuff to "review".
I don't see real users enjoy that much, cannot even open many tabs in web browser, even $199 Chromebook can do that.
Ah. The old “bribed reviewers” argument.
There are numerous videos where you can see the performance for yourself - from insane export times to render times, to general system performance. Also matches my limited experience with these devices. And a lot of these reviewers were pretty negative about previous MacBook Pros and didn’t hold back before. And there are reviewers that don’t get review units from Apple.
You actually believe these computers are not super fast? You believe Intel chips are faster? Like, everyone is lying or pretending? Including people on these forums? That’s insane. Anyway, believe what you wish.
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That’s the best part with this whole thread.
aevan, never ask yourself why most "reviews" are only containing pseudo critics? Because this products have of course no real faults? I have seen so much monitors with serial faults. How many reviewers have reported about them? 0. Some a little bit after the community is sharing them with the "reviewers". This "reviews" are a marketing instrument and they need the manufacturers (for free test samples and advertising). The consumers with not much experience and knowledge went into the trap: "Oh yeah, xxxx says it's good or very good, there is no bad fault, i keep it!"
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Ok great, the reviewers are useless and you have a lot of arguments against them! How about turning these arguments in a 'real' review and show us your take on things through real data!
I am eagerly awaiting your 'real and unbiased' review! Go for it!!
The reviewers data is not useless at all for the shown use cases. But it's only a small part of the whole story. In terms of M1 architecture there are many downsides which they haven't mentioned. Who of the reviewers is mentioning what is going on with only 16 gb ram for example, not only within this apple dedicated rendering softwares?
For finding all problems i need much more time with mac os. This os/device is not so amazing, pretty boring (like a cutted linux distribution), so i wont spend so much time with it.
But i think many users will bring up all the problems up. A lot problems about m1 have been already shown.
For finding all problems i need much more time with mac os. This os/device is not so amazing, pretty boring (like a cutted linux distribution), so i wont spend so much time with it.
But i think many users will bring up all the problems up. A lot problems about m1 have been already shown.
It’s amazing how committed you are to being wrong.