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The Ongoing Bittorrent Client Thread...(Azureus, Transmission, µTorrent, oh my!)

What is your primary client?

  • uTorrent

    Votes: 70 15.7%

  • Azureus

    Votes: 111 24.9%

  • BitRocket

    Votes: 1 0.2%

  • BitTorrent

    Votes: 5 1.1%

  • BitTyrant

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Tomato Torrent

    Votes: 7 1.6%

  • Transmission

    Votes: 234 52.6%

  • Other...

    Votes: 14 3.1%
  • Total voters
    445
tibi08 said:
I can only assume that people who votes for Azureus haven't used Transmission...
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I've used both, but I currently use Azureus. I used Transmission for quite a while before switching to Azureus. I don't know the cause, but Transmission is just slower than Azureus. It might be that the code is buggy or perhaps Transmission is still banned by some trackers. Whatever the reason for the slowness, I chose function over form and went with Azureus.

The main annoyance I have with Azureus is that instead of having a Dock menu, it has a menu bar item that functions poorly. And if you do without the menu bar item, when closing the window the application stops transferring (essentially quitting).
 
stupidregister said:
I've used both, but I currently use Azureus. I used Transmission for quite a while before switching to Azureus. I don't know the cause, but Transmission is just slower than Azureus. It might be that the code is buggy or perhaps Transmission is still banned by some trackers. Whatever the reason for the slowness, I chose function over form and went with Azureus.
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I think Transmission doesn't have dht which makes it slower than Azureus.
And yes, it's banned on some tracker sites so Azureus is still technically superior.
 
tibi08 said:
I can only assume that people who votes for Azureus haven't used Transmission...
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I've used both, and I use Azureus (2.5.0.4) exclusively now. For why, from the other thread...

I'm seeding or downing up to 200 torrents at a time, and the only client with a hope of managing them half as decently as µTorrent is Azureus. Transmission will not become a viable candidate for power users until they redesign its interface to make it capable of working with far larger numbers of torrents. It can't be that hard to code; BitRocket got it, and that client is ridiculously lacking in features. xTorrent, Deluge, Azureus, µTorrent, etc. have the design. Transmission needs to abandon that ridiculous vertical layout and join the horizontal standard.
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Why? Azureus is a cluttered, ugly mess. If you need to drill down to a torrent in Transmission and don't want to scroll, search. I don't want another gigantic wide program consuming huge swaths of my screen. If anything, I wouldn't want to have to seed 200 torrents in Azureus simply because of the system resources involved. At least Transmission is comparatively lightweight.

I appreciate that there's a program that isn't just slavishly copying every other torrent client out there.
 
But is it actually fast now? Who cares how good the UI is if the stupid thing is banned from 90% of trackers or cant manage sources worth a damn, whatever its problem may be (and it DOES have one, a big one).

I would like the use Transmission because of its good UI and ability to see speeds in the dock, but what matters is download speed. The UI kind of doesnt matter when downloading a 3gb file in Azureus at 150k/s vs downloading a 3gb file in Transmission at 0-15k/s. With Azureus its easy to download from around 200 peers after just a minute of it running, with Transmission its rare I get more than 10 peers.

Its easy to turn off VUZE too, in the GUI options you can select the classic interface without the VUZE crap
 
stainlessliquid said:
But is it actually fast now?
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It has always been fast for me.

stainlessliquid said:
Who cares how good the UI is if the stupid thing is banned from 90% of trackers
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Proof?

stainlessliquid said:
or cant manage sources worth a damn,
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What do you mean by this?

I just started a new torrent. I'll get back to you on this build (4479). I've been keep up with the 0.96+ builds so going to this one isn't a big leap.

stainlessliquid said:
I would like the use Transmission because of its good UI and ability to see speeds in the dock, but what matters is download speed. The UI kind of doesnt matter when downloading a 3gb file in Azureus at 150k/s vs downloading a 3gb file in Transmission at 0-15k/s. With Azureus its easy to download from around 200 peers after just a minute of it running, with Transmission its rare I get more than 10 peers.
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Connected doesn't always mean downloading either.
 
stainlessliquid said:
But is it actually fast now? Who cares how good the UI is if the stupid thing is banned from 90% of trackers or cant manage sources worth a damn, whatever its problem may be (and it DOES have one, a big one).

I would like the use Transmission because of its good UI and ability to see speeds in the dock, but what matters is download speed. The UI kind of doesnt matter when downloading a 3gb file in Azureus at 150k/s vs downloading a 3gb file in Transmission at 0-15k/s. With Azureus its easy to download from around 200 peers after just a minute of it running, with Transmission its rare I get more than 10 peers.

Its easy to turn off VUZE too, in the GUI options you can select the classic interface without the VUZE crap
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I get well over 150k/s with transmission.:D
 
I editted after you replied probably.
whatever its problem may be (and it DOES have one, a big one).
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This suggests that I dont know what the problem is exactly, but that there is one.

I get 150k/s from Transmission too, but never consistently and never for a long period of time. Azureus is always consistent with the quality of the torrent. There have been SEVERAL times Ive given up on a torrent in Transmission because it was going so slow, openning it in Azureus immediately solved the problem EVERY TIME and brought the download speed up to what it should be. I havent tried it before but Im sure that if I "raced" them side by side that Azureus would destroy Transmission in terms of speed.

I know for a 100% fact that there is or was (havent tried v1.0) a problem with it not being able to download very fast, most likely due to having a severe shortage of sources to download from. People arent imagining things when they say Transmission is slower compared to Azureus.

I'll give Transmission another shot since it allows you to set the max number of connections now (maybe early builds had it absurdly low), but I have my doubts that it will be any better.
 
One glaring flaw of Transmission (beyond the obvious one mentioned earlier) is its inability to show on the main interface whether a user is clever or not. My router likes to play musical IP addresses, and every 18 or so hours (sometimes when I go into/out of sleep), my Macbook gets a new address. This means I've got to go back into the router and change the port forwarding addy so things work again.

Azureus has a light on the main page that shows whether things are cool or not. Transmission doesn't. I won't even mention whether µTorrent did; y'all know how I feel about that client. Now I use Azureus, and see the light changing colors, I can easily reset the forwarding addy, and decide from there if I need to reset Azureus as well. I'd say this is a feature Transmission could well do to implement...after redesigning the interface, of course.

Finally, yes, there does seem to be a speed difference between the two. Transmission *always* seemed to slow to a crawl for me after about three to six hours of being open. I never understood why. I still don't understand why. It would just turn to molasses, and torrent speeds would drop to almost zero. It couldn't have been a forwarding issue, as each time I restarted Transmission, my speeds would jump up to whatever they'd been one minute after I'd restarted it the last time. So it was more likely an incompetence issue on the part of Transmission. Anyway, this seems to occur far less often in Azureus. It was maddening in Transmission, and that, along with the interface design (horrible), was what made me track down Azureus 2.5.0.4, and never look back.
 
heatmiser said:
One glaring flaw of Transmission (beyond the obvious one mentioned earlier) is its inability to show on the main interface whether a user is clever or not. My router likes to play musical IP addresses, and every 18 or so hours (sometimes when I go into/out of sleep), my Macbook gets a new address. This means I've got to go back into the router and change the port forwarding addy so things work again. Azureus has a light on the main page that shows whether things are cool or not. Transmission doesn't. I won't even mention whether µTorrent did; y'all know how I feel about that client. So basically, when things slowed in Transmission, I had no idea why that was happening. Now I use Azureus, and see the light changing colors, I can easily reset the forwarding addy, and decide from there if I need to reset Azureus as well. I'd say this is a feature Transmission could well do to implement...after redesigning the interface, of course.
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You could just make the DHCP lease longer.

Just a thought.
 
You could also assign DCHP reservations by MAC address... that is what I do. And makes the most sense when dealing with port forwarding.
 
I'll look into both of these suggestions. I've never been able to figure out this Netgear router...
 
heatmiser said:
It's a WGR614v6. Hey, I got it! It was under 'Address Reservation' in "LAN IP Setup". I had no idea this was so easy to do. Thanks! :^)
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No problem! Happy torrenting! I have that router before I got my AEBS. It was a good little router.
You could go even further and set the same IP manually on your computers. I don't know if it would really be worth it. In theory would technically be on immediately when coming out of sleep since the computer doesn't have to go out and grab it everytime.
 
timestamp said:
No problem! Happy torrenting! I have that router before I got my AEBS. It was a good little router.
You could go even further and set the same IP manually on your computers. I don't know if it would really be worth it. In theory would technically be on immediately when coming out of sleep since the computer doesn't have to go out and grab it everytime.
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Haha, I could try that...but right now, I'm just giddy over figuring out this static IP business. Enjoy the AEBS. Those things look sweet.
 
IMcD23 said:
selective file downloading, they have! it is one of the tabs in the inspector
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No, I meant back when Transmission didn't. :) I know it's had it for a little while now.

tibi08 said:
I can only assume that people who votes for Azureus haven't used Transmission...
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As much as I want Transmission to be good, it's yet to prove itself to me to be as fast and reliable as Azureus (for reasons I mentioned earlier); when I don't have time to worry if a torrent is going to download properly, Azureus is what I turn to. The new Transmission 1.0 is pretty nice so far though.
 
Looks like I'm the only person who voted for Tomato Torrent. I like it because it's incredibly easy to use and I didn't change any settings or anything. I also downloaded a little script called "download torrent to here". If you drop a .torrent file on this script it will download that torrent to the location where you have the script.
 
tibi08 said:
I can only assume that people who votes for Azureus haven't used Transmission...
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I can only assume that the people who voted for Transmission haven't used Azureus :rolleyes:

I tried out Transmission and went straight back to Azureus. Why: It is slower and has less features.

At the end of the day it is all about personal preference and how customisable you want it to be. If you want something simple Transmission if you want something with lots of features/options Azureus.
 
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