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I just re-watched "Lasting Impressions" and the final season episode was fore-shadowed when Kelly went to talk to Gordon about he deleting is simulated girlfriend's ex-boyfriend. She described a life if she didn't have Ed.

Talk about awesome writing..

:)
I liked that episode, and how it was handled.

There was one thing that happened...

When Gordon mentions that his father's name was Greg, the same as Laura's boyfriend, I thought that might be a setup for a twist ending, where it turned out that Gordon's family tradition is to give male children names starting with G, so Laura (and thus Greg) turns out to be his distant ancestor.

Clearly, this didn't happen, unless I dozed off and didn't notice.
 
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I liked that episode, and how it was handled.

There was one thing that happened...

When Gordon mentions that his father's name was Greg, the same as Laura's boyfriend, I thought that might be a setup for a twist ending, where it turned out that Gordon's family tradition is to give male children names starting with G, so Laura (and thus Greg) turns out to be his distant ancestor.

Clearly, this didn't happen, unless I dozed off and didn't notice.

I had the same thought. I guess we'll see just how far time unwinds.
 
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S2 Final:
Well there is a lot about quantum mechanics I don’t know, but I was hoping for something more. :) (4= good, 1= hard to buy)
  • Impressed with the start. 4
  • Kelly rounds up most of the crew. 3
  • They need a drug to make the mind wipe. 3
  • Chase scene though asteroids, too easy. Kaylon weapon’s too innacurate. 2
  • Hide out on edge of black hole, basis? Or too convenient? 2
  • The Orville crashes, but intact and flight worthy at bottom of Marianas Trench. 1
  • Fly to Kaylon and break into their network to find a disassembled Isaac, too easy. 1-2
  • How do they know where to send the Doctor? 1-3
  • Why did the doctor disappear after applying the second mindwipe? The ship was destroyed and could not pull her back? 1
 
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S2 Final:
Well there is a lot about quantum mechanics I don’t know, but I was hoping for something more. :) (4= good, 1= hard to buy)
  • Impressed with the start. 4
  • Kelly rounds up most of the crew. 3
  • They need a drug to make the mind wipe. 3
  • Chase scene though asteroids, too easy. Kaylon weapon’s too innacurate. 2
  • Hide out on edge of black hole, basis? Or too convenient? 2
  • The Orville crashes, but intact and flight worthy at bottom of Marianas Trench. 1
  • Fly to Kaylon and break into their network to find a disassembled Isaac, too easy. 1-2
  • How do they know where to send the Doctor? 1-3
  • Why did the doctor disappear after applying the second mindwipe? The ship was destroyed and could not pull her back? 1
I probably don't know enough about black hole mechanics, but that part would be a 1 (if not a 0) in my mind, if only on the very basics of being able to casually fly in and fly out of something from which even light can't escape.

The whole part about flying in atmosphere and out of it and swimming under water being basically the same kind of walks the same line.

Also found it interesting/odd when they showed what the Earth and the Moon looked like from space (being pretty much destroyed) and then things looked nice and sunny when they flew down to Earth, when all indicators seemed like there would be something along the lines of a nuclear winter going on with probably other weird things related to the Moon no longer being the Moon basically.

As far as the doctor disappearing goes, my take on that was that it was related to that timeline no longer being in existence essentially and therefore that doctor wouldn't be there.
 
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I probably don't know enough about black hole mechanics, but that part would be a 1 (if not a 0) in my mind, if only on the very basics of being able to casually fly in and fly out of something from which light can't even escape.

The whole part about flying in atmosphere and out of it and swimming under water being basically the same kind of walks the same line.

Also found it interesting/odd when they showed what the Earth and the Moon looked like from space (being pretty much destroyed) and then things looked nice and sunny when they flew down to Earth, when all indicators seemed like there would be something along the lines of a nuclear winter going on with probably other weird things related to the Moon no longer being the Moon basically.

As far as the doctor disappearing goes, my take on that was that it was related to that timeline no longer being in existence essentially and therefore that doctor wouldn't be there.

Hmm that is a good point, although this gets into time travel paradoxes. Even though I was cool with the original setup, young Kelly being pulled out of the timeline and brought forward, you’d have to ask why was the timeline not immediately changed, bringing about Krylon domination of the universe 7 years later because she was no longer there to date and marry Ed? I even said that was paradox free! But maybe I have changed my opinion, unless it was a parallel universe, uh, but then...never mind. :p

However, if you go with the premise of being pulled out of the past into the furture, there would be at least 2 possible options:
  • The future is immediately changed, Kelly disappears in the past, and appears in the future with a new altered future, due to her absence for 7 years. Therefore, the Krylon would be (maybe ;)) dominating the future, 7 years later.
  • Or she ends up pulled out of one time line and taken to a parallel universe where she can meet herself. Then it gets really complicated, so complicated that it’s not really worth trying to find a logical explanation, just go with the story, and not question. I mean if you can go back and meet yourself, it seems going forward to meet yourself is a solid maybe. :)
However my statement questioning why the Doctor dissapeared, was because if young Kelly could be pulled forward and meet herself, and be stuck there without a quantum machine to send her back, by the same logic, the Doctor going back in time, without something like that to pull her back, even though she would be from a time line that no longer exists, she’d be stuck there to, without a quantum manipulation. The show seems to want their cake and eat it too. :D
 
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S2 Final:
Well there is a lot about quantum mechanics I don’t know, but I was hoping for something more. :) (4= good, 1= hard to buy)
  • Impressed with the start. 4
  • Kelly rounds up most of the crew. 3
  • They need a drug to make the mind wipe. 3
  • Chase scene though asteroids, too easy. Kaylon weapon’s too innacurate. 2
  • Hide out on edge of black hole, basis? Or too convenient? 2
  • The Orville crashes, but intact and flight worthy at bottom of Marianas Trench. 1
  • Fly to Kaylon and break into their network to find a disassembled Isaac, too easy. 1-2
  • How do they know where to send the Doctor? 1-3
  • Why did the doctor disappear after applying the second mindwipe? The ship was destroyed and could not pull her back? 1

Black Hole = homage to the actual Black Hole pictures just published...cool...

Kelly knew where to send the Doctor.


Orville crashed with minimal Life Support and Shields...

The Doctor disappeared since the timeline was set straight again and didn't need to go back a second time.

IMHO - One of the best episodes of Sci-FI ever...
 
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Black Hole = homage to the actual Black Hole pictures just published...cool...

Kelly knew where to send the Doctor.


Orville crashed with minimal Life Support and Shields...

The Doctor disappeared since the timeline was set straight again and didn't need to go back a second time.

IMHO - One of the best episodes of Sci-FI ever...
It's a matter of accepting the premise or how much it is accepted. I stand by my analysis, while time travel itself is highly speculative, resulting in paradoxes because of the complex nature of the premise, making it harder to critique with any assurance of being correct. :D

My point, is that it was hard to maintain my suspension of disbelief at times.
 
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Very happy about that last episode. At least it didn't end with a cliffhanger. The music was absolutely amazing. I'm holding my tongue not to give away any spoilers. A+ episode. I was told that they haven't renewed for a third season yet!? :(
 
Not yet. Rumors that it might be moved to Disney+. Probably an announcement where it will be at SD Comicon.

If Fox doesn't keep it, I hear there's a long line of other companies already waiting to pick it up...

;)
Disney+
Very interesting times in TV Land. All these networks are deciding they want money for content, not just advertising revenue. When I look at CBS All Access, I see one thing Star Trek Discovery, which I need to subscribe to for 1 month to catch season 2. I have a hard time believing that CBS is coming out ahead versus the advertising revenue they’d get on a regular broadcast, but maybe times are a changing. I just hope the viewer is not screwed in the process.

I’m looking forward hopefully to ala cart services that are less than $10 a month per channel. I think I could make $5 a month work and come out ahead for the number of channels I watch.
 
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S2 Final:
Well there is a lot about quantum mechanics I don’t know, but I was hoping for something more. :) (4= good, 1= hard to buy)
  • Impressed with the start. 4
  • Kelly rounds up most of the crew. 3
  • They need a drug to make the mind wipe. 3
  • Chase scene though asteroids, too easy. Kaylon weapon’s too innacurate. 2
  • Hide out on edge of black hole, basis? Or too convenient? 2
  • The Orville crashes, but intact and flight worthy at bottom of Marianas Trench. 1
  • Fly to Kaylon and break into their network to find a disassembled Isaac, too easy. 1-2
  • How do they know where to send the Doctor? 1-3
  • Why did the doctor disappear after applying the second mindwipe? The ship was destroyed and could not pull her back? 1
Black Hole = homage to the actual Black Hole pictures just published...cool...

Kelly knew where to send the Doctor.


Orville crashed with minimal Life Support and Shields...

The Doctor disappeared since the timeline was set straight again and didn't need to go back a second time.

IMHO - One of the best episodes of Sci-FI ever...

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Despite the hard-to-buy plot elements, I liked the episode, partly because I enjoy watching Ed and Kelly's relationship and partly because it illustrates how seemingly-minor decisions can have profound effects on our and other people's lives.

Aside from time travel, which I don't believe is possible, the black hole scene was the biggest stretch for me (no pun intended). I don't think that a ship, even with quantum drive (whatever that is), could escape from inside the event horizon. The inclusion of gravitational time dilation was interesting, though, since it let the crew wait out the Kaylons.

I was OK with the Orville remaining in one piece more than 7 miles deep on the theory that shields would protect the hull from the pressure somehow.

I agree that the Kaylons' aim was lousy, but that's a criticism of pretty much every movie or TV show where bad guys are chasing and shooting at good guys, even with lasers, phasers, or what-have-you. Of course, the villains do better when it suits the plot, as when the flying Kaylon heads were attacking the outpost. I also agree that it was too easy to get the information from Isaac and correct the timeline at the end... for an instant, when the Orville exploded, I thought that the screen was going to fade to black, ending with another cliffhanger.

Regardless of nitpicks, I think The Orville has established itself as a solid sci-fi series, and I'll be looking forward to the next season wherever it ends up.

BTW, it was nice to have Halston Sage appear as Alara Kitan again, even if only for a few minutes.
 
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Despite the hard-to-buy plot elements, I liked the episode, partly because I enjoy watching Ed and Kelly's relationship and partly because it illustrates how seemingly-minor decisions can have profound effects on our and other people's lives.

Aside from time travel, which I don't believe is possible, the black hole scene was the biggest stretch for me (no pun intended). I don't think that a ship, even with quantum drive (whatever that is), could escape from inside the event horizon. The inclusion of gravitational time dilation was interesting, though, since it let the crew wait out the Kaylons.

I was OK with the Orville remaining in one piece more than 7 miles deep on the theory that shields would protect the hull from the pressure somehow.

I agree that the Kaylons' aim was lousy, but that's a criticism of pretty much every movie or TV show where bad guys are chasing and shooting at good guys, even with lasers, phasers, or what-have-you. Of course, the villains do better when it suits the plot, as when the flying Kaylon heads were attacking the outpost. I also agree that it was too easy to get the information from Isaac and correct the timeline at the end... for an instant, when the Orville exploded, I thought that the screen was going to fade to black, ending with another cliffhanger.

Regardless of nitpicks, I think The Orville has established itself as a solid sci-fi series, and I'll be looking forward to the next season wherever it ends up.

BTW, it was nice to have Halston Sage appear as Alara Kitan again, even if only for a few minutes.

Good post!
For myself, I just have to let plot accuracy/realism, at least my impression of what is accurate and realistic go as a requirement, take a suspension of disbelief reinforcement pill, and enjoy the crew relationships. However, I do not hold this series in the same regard as something like Star Trek Next Gen, Interstellar, Gravity, or The Arrival, projects where the producers were actually concerned with some level of scientific accuracy. I will place it in the company, although lesser than Galaxy Quest which was an excellent SciFi spoof.

As far as the Krylon laser accuracy, we know that accuracy with a laser is as easy as point and shoot. If the target is in your sights, you will hit It. I was expecting Gordon to comment that the Krylon were still working on an upgrade from Windows 3.1, a laughable explanation. ;)
 
BTW, it was nice to have Halston Sage appear as Alara Kitan again, even if only for a few minutes.

Awesome post. My wife screamed when Alara came back, lol. The whole jar of pickles thing, again, was pretty cool. lol.
 
Anyone know why Halston Sage left the series? Written that way, or the actress had her sights on bigger things? Vague speculation: https://heavy.com/entertainment/2019/04/why-did-halston-sage-alara-leave-the-orville-return/

My opinion:

I was at a Hollywood Show years ago and the guests were from Battlestar Galactica (Original), they said one of their greatest fears is to be "type-casted", especially when you're part of a successful movie or show.

Sage is young and started getting popular so maybe she wanted other roles before it got too late.
 
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For myself, I just have to let plot accuracy/realism, at least my impression of what is accurate and realistic go as a requirement, take a suspension of disbelief reinforcement pill, and enjoy the crew relationships. However, I do not hold this series in the same regard as something like Star Trek Next Gen, Interstellar, Gravity, or The Arrival, projects where the producers were actually concerned with some level of scientific accuracy. I will place it in the company, although lesser than Galaxy Quest which was an excellent SciFi spoof.

Like you, I don't hold The Orville in as high regard as Star Trek. When Gene Roddenberry was developing TOS, which introduced many of the technologies in the Star Trek universe, he made a concerted effort to follow scientific principles. A book he co-authored with Stephen E. Whitfield, The Making of Star Trek, chronicles this well. (I first read it in the late 60s or early 70s and highly recommend it. It's available used on Amazon.)

Some of the technology on The Orville mostly passes the sniff test. The ship's quantum drive is unexplained, but it's essentially equivalent to the warp drive on Star Trek. Ditto with the food synthesizers, which appear to make something out of nothing. Maybe it's an ultra-fast form of 3D printing.

My biggest complaints about The Orville are the characters' continual use of idioms and pop-culture references from our time, including by alien beings for whom English surely is a distant second language. I also sometimes cringe when crew members do things that would never pass muster in any functioning military hierarchy. And, speaking of aliens, I find it odd that so many are bipedal, with two arms, eyes, and ears, variations in skin, shape, and other features notwithstanding. I think that's why I like Yaphit so much.

Despite all this, I've become a dedicated fan of the series and look forward to more. To the best of my knowledge, though, The Orville hasn't yet been picked up for a third season.

As far as the Krylon laser accuracy, we know that accuracy with a laser is as easy as point and shoot. If the target is in your sights, you will hit It. I was expecting Gordon to comment that the Krylon were still working on an upgrade from Windows 3.1, a laughable explanation. ;)

Whether it's The Orville, Star Trek, or Star Wars, I've often found it silly when laser-like weapons are aimed by humans or aliens. Computers would do a much better job by accounting for rapid changes in position and trajectory between shooter and target. But it wouldn't be as much fun, and using The Force is the way to go if you can.
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My opinion:

I was at a Hollywood Show years ago and the guests were from Battlestar Galactica (Original), they said one of their greatest fears is to be "type-casted", especially when you're part of a successful movie or show.

Sage is young and started getting popular so maybe she wanted other roles before it got too late.

Perhaps, though it doesn't seemed to have harmed Emilia Clarke's career. Still while in retrospect it may seem foolish for any actor not to have stayed with Game of Thrones, I don't think it was obvious how in-demand it would be until a couple of years after it debuted. Not that I expect The Orville to ever achieve that level of success, sometimes it's worth waiting, especially if you're a regular.

When I consider actors leaving popular series, I always think of McLean Stevenson. He reportedly left M*A*S*H because he thought he could do better elsewhere, but his career slid after he departed. There were reportedly other issues, as well. Not only was his character replaced, Colonel Blake was killed, making a return impossible.

I'm happy that this hasn't happened to Alara Kitan/Halson Sage. It would be great to have her return for a guest spot every so often.
 
My opinion:

I was at a Hollywood Show years ago and the guests were from Battlestar Galactica (Original), they said one of their greatest fears is to be "type-casted", especially when you're part of a successful movie or show.

Sage is young and started getting popular so maybe she wanted other roles before it got too late.
My counter was she was only there for one season. I think the smart actors are the ones that try out the new waters say movies and see how it goes before abandoning their show. There have been several actors and actresses who jumped ship, and the movie career they imagined never materialized. Yet others fall right into movies without drooping their show first. Who knows?
 

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Browsing though Disney+, there sits The Orville and the new 3rd Season. I thought this was on Hulu?
I’ll catch up on Season 3…

It is on Hulu, but I think Disney+ got second dibs for the series.
 
Browsing though Disney+, there sits The Orville and the new 3rd Season. I thought this was on Hulu?
I’ll catch up on Season 3…
They are part of the same company. I guess they want it to get more exposure. I think there’s some other properties cross promoted.

I will say season 3 is quite good. But the character of the show is rather different than prior seasons. It’s much more serious.
 
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