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The Orville (TV show)
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That last episode! Just got done watching it! Woo hooo.
A+ again. One of the best seasons I've ever purchased on Apple TV.
I can't believe the amount of CGI ship battles. I'm going to watch this again. I'm happy they didn't make it like TNG - where one cube wipes out a fleet of starships (Wolf 359 for us Trekkies). Glad to see Issac isn't gone and he has come back. All in all, a great great episode. Wish they had more time to play some of it out, but it was great.
A+ again. One of the best seasons I've ever purchased on Apple TV.
Yeah, Holy Crap, I did not see that coming and it’s a 2 parter so it’s not yet resolved.I just hope it’s not a simplistic resolution.
I enjoyed part 2.
Defeating the Kaylon on The Orville was a bit too easy, but the battle at Earth was very well done and the alliance with the Krill opens some interesting possibilities.
Are you internet only or bought it cause you love it so much?
Are you internet only or bought it cause you love it so much?
Internet only - but I would have bought it had I had cable cuz I love it so much. So yes to both lol.
Good review of the last excellent episode,
https://trekmovie.com/2019/03/02/review-the-orville-finds-itself-in-identity-part-2/
Defending Earth,
Rebuilding,
https://trekmovie.com/2019/03/02/review-the-orville-finds-itself-in-identity-part-2/
Defending Earth,
Rebuilding,
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Identity was an enjoyable 2 episodes! They pulled no punches! I thought changing the minds of the Krill was too expedited, but I can live with it.
I especially liked the conversation between Ed and Gordon. I didn't see the very ending coming, either. I wonder if they're going to follow the timeline.
Another great episode. Ahaha. THE BATHROOM IS THAT WAY!!!! and the dance... the dance... ahaha. Had us rolling.
The ending was a smack in the face - didn't expect it... wonder what next episode is going to bring.
Way to go The Orville. Becoming one of my most favorite TV series ever.
It's continuing to climb on my list, too.
I hope Seth MacFarlane doesn't drop the "Kelly remembers" storyline. He has one more episode to pick it up this season, but how? The only way 7-years-ago Kelly's knowledge about her and Ed not working out and turning down a second date can affect the new timeline would be for Commander Grayson's behavior or condition to be altered somehow. She's already made it clear to Ed that she doesn't want to get back together, so it would have to change her in other ways. I just don't want the series to go Primer on us.
I admit that when the younger Kelly went to Ed's cabin, I thought that it might be the older version pretending to be her previous self to restart the relationship again, which would have taken the episode in a different direction.
I admit that when the younger Kelly went to Ed's cabin, I thought that it might be the older version pretending to be her previous self to restart the relationship again, which would have taken the episode in a different direction.
Well, the title of the next episode (which is the season finale) is The Road Not Taken.It's continuing to climb on my list, too.
I hope Seth MacFarlane doesn't drop the "Kelly remembers" storyline. He has one more episode to pick it up this season, but how? The only way 7-years-ago Kelly's knowledge about her and Ed not working out and turning down a second date can affect the new timeline would be for Commander Grayson's behavior or condition to be altered somehow. She's already made it clear to Ed that she doesn't want to get back together, so it would have to change her in other ways. I just don't want the series to go Primer on us.
I admit that when the younger Kelly went to Ed's cabin, I thought that it might be the older version pretending to be her previous self to restart the relationship again, which would have taken the episode in a different direction.
Its description says, "The crew must contend with the disastrous fallout from Kelly's decision."
I think the last episode set things up for the finale. Something's broken!
Spoiler
S2:E13- Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow:
I’ve dealt with a lot of time travel paradoxes in my SciFi viewing history, and this story was just about paradox free, return young Kelly to her past 7 years ago with a mind wipe, no issues, except she spent an extra week or whatever on the Orville 7 years in the future, so she was one week older when she came back, ok never mind. That’s not it, at least I don’t think so...anyway.
But where they got me was with that ending and the second time for this series, I cried out Holy Crap!
For whatever reason young Kelly decided to break off her relationship with Ed changing the future, unless young Kelly was put on a split timeline. Plus after that scene, they did not cut back to a normal Orville. AND THEN in the preview for next week they showed a very brief shot of both young and old Kelly together! Looking forward to this next episode to see how the story twists itself around!
I was also impressed at how little makeup and acting, really made one Kelly seem more mature than young Kelly.
This is a 2 Part Season Finale, dispite it not saying continued, just cause they are screwing with us!
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S2:E13- Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow:
I’ve dealt with a lot of time travel paradoxes in my SciFi viewing history, and this story was just about paradox free, return young Kelly to her past 7 years ago with a mind wipe, no issues, except she spent an extra week or whatever on the Orville 7 years in the future, so she was one week older when she came back, ok never mind. That’s not it, at least I don’t think so...anyway.
But where they got me was with that ending and the second time for this series, I cried out Holy Crap!
For whatever reason young Kelly decided to break off her relationship with Ed changing the future, unless young Kelly was put on a split timeline. Plus after that scene, they did not cut back to a normal Orville. AND THEN in the preview for next week they showed a very brief shot of both young and old Kelly together! Looking forward to this next episode to see how the story twists itself around!
I was also impressed at how little makeup and acting, really made one Kelly seem more mature than young Kelly.
This is a 2 Part Season Finale, dispite it not saying continued, just cause they are screwing with us!
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Are you streaming Fox Network? If so, what streaming service are you using?Internet only - but I would have bought it had I had cable cuz I love it so much. So yes to both lol.
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Purchased the season on Apple TV. Means I have to wait till the day after to watch.
And agreed 100% with your post. Haha
Spoiler
S2:E13- Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow:
I’ve dealt with a lot of time travel paradoxes in my SciFi viewing history, and this story was just about paradox free, return young Kelly to her past 7 years ago with a mind wipe, no issues, except she spent an extra week or whatever on the Orville 7 years in the future, so she was one week older when she came back, ok never mind. That’s not it, at least I don’t think so...anyway.
But where they got me was with that ending and the second time for this series, I cried out Holy Crap!
For whatever reason young Kelly decided to break off her relationship with Ed changing the future, unless young Kelly was put on a split timeline, AND THEN in the preview for next week they showed a very brief shot of both young and old Kelly together! Plus after that scene, they did cut back to a normal Orville. Looking forward to this next episode to see how the story twists itself around!
I was also impressed at how little makeup and acting, really made one Kelly seem more mature than young Kelly.
Star Trek (TOS) dealt with the paradox in an episode in which the Enterprise travels back to the 1960s and transports a fighter jet pilot aboard before his plane breaks up. They discover that he has to live because his son led/will lead an important space mission in his future, so they go back in time and transport him into his aircraft just before the initial encounter, so he has no memory of the Enterprise.
But the series wasn't consistent in handling time travel. In Assignment: Earth, when Roberta Lincoln becomes aware of future technology after being hired by Gary Seven, it turns out that the timeline was supposed to be that way, so there was no paradox. In All Our Yesterdays, when McCoy and Spock go back into a planet's ice age, Spock loses his Vulcan logic because people on his planet haven't matured yet. But in The City on the Edge of Forever, Spock, McCoy, and Kirk all retain their knowledge when they go back to the depression era through the time portal.
I'm looking forward to see what The Orville does with this.
I have watched documentaries on time travel and there are many theories of what would happen if you were to travel in the past. On theory is that you if you tried to change your timeline, for example if you were to meet your parents and somehow manage to make them never to get together. You would just create another timeline and that timeline would just continue on with those new events. However, the most bizarre theory is that there are actually multiple timelines that happening at the same time (I think they call it multiple universes). For instance Adolph Hitler actually succeeds and wins WW2 in one timeline which brings me to "The Man in the High Castle" follows that premise. (I haven't watch the whole series yet, so I don't know if they continue with that premise.) The most boring theory is no matter what a time traveler does the past can't be changed. You would just be an observer to events.
So going back and forth from the future might or might not wreck havoc on the general timeline. Yes, it's going to be interesting to see what The Orville does especially when humor is part of the series.
So going back and forth from the future might or might not wreck havoc on the general timeline. Yes, it's going to be interesting to see what The Orville does especially when humor is part of the series.
I love time travel theory. Because today there is no way to prove or disprove any of the varied theories around it. I've read many stories/books and seen many tv shows/movies where they posit that certain paradoxes will cause a complete collapse of time and the end of the universe(s).
My reaction at the end of this episode was "ohhhhh...she did come from an alternate timeline." We don't know yet. Yet.
I have also come to really love this series, and the way they treat some really deep subjects, especially with the Moclan. It's such a window into our own society and our confusion concerning our own behaviors.
My reaction at the end of this episode was "ohhhhh...she did come from an alternate timeline." We don't know yet. Yet.
I have also come to really love this series, and the way they treat some really deep subjects, especially with the Moclan. It's such a window into our own society and our confusion concerning our own behaviors.
I’m enjoying TO, but think the show has to decide what they want to be, as there is a fine line between comedy and drama.
Galaxy Quest is one of my favorite Star Trek style spoofs and it is funny. Star Trek can cover some weighty issues just because it’s not particularly funny, although there were some funny moments, like tribbles, and Captain’s Holiday here Picard picks up an “I Want Sex” statue for Ryker on a vacation planet, but does not know what the statue symbolizes, as he keeps being propositioned.
For The Orville, I’ve noticed that the best episodes in this series, the comedy takes a back seat, or is absent all together. Think about Star Trek Discovery Season 1, imagine that story if they threw in lame jokes, or haha moments. The story would be diminished.
In the Moclan episode Sanctuary (S2E12) with the hidden planet, I don’t remember anything funny in that episode. In the Identity Episode Part 2 (S2E9) where Gordon ends up in a Krill Fighter, and he throws a mean look growling at his Krill contemporary in a second ship flying next to him. Ok, it was funny, meant to be funny, but this battle was serious business, and I felt it was out of place and diminished the character and the seriousness of the event, people were dying. Do we want to take him and this battle seriously or not?
I watch Fox On Demand with Fox Now on my Xbox One...
I just re-watched "Lasting Impressions" and the final season episode was fore-shadowed when Kelly went to talk to Gordon about he deleting is simulated girlfriend's ex-boyfriend. She described a life if she didn't have Ed.
Talk about awesome writing..
So Fox On Demand or Fox Now does not require a traditional cable subscription to sign in with and are you paying for it?I watch Fox On Demand with Fox Now on my Xbox One...
I just re-watched "Lasting Impressions" and the final season episode was fore-shadowed when Kelly went to talk to Gordon about he deleting is simulated girlfriend's ex-boyfriend. She described a life if she didn't have Ed.
Talk about awesome writing..
No subscription required anywhere, free...
If you have a cable/dish subscription, you can log in with that and programs don't expire as quickly (available to view for longer after broadcast).
That series had a lot of inconsistencies. Then a lot of the knowledge and tech seemed to be absent in TNG and onward. If Spock could simply send the Enterprise back in time for Assignment Earth. You'd think by the TNG era. Time travel would be trivial for the Enterprise D.
All Our Yesterdays just needed some extra explanation to get rid of the inconstancy of his mind changing. If you'll recall it was explained their bodies had to be properly prepped to survive the time period. Perhaps changing the brain was a side effect of their time portal without preparation. Which would have been a simple one liner to slip in.
I’m enjoying TO, but think the show has to decide what they want to be, as there is a fine line between comedy and drama.
Galaxy Quest is one of my favorite Star Trek style spoofs and it is funny. Star Trek can cover some weighty issues just because it’s not particularly funny, although there were some funny moments, like tribbles, and Captain’s Holiday here Picard picks up an “I Want Sex” statue for Ryker on a vacation planet, but does not know what the statue symbolizes, as he keeps being propositioned.
For The Orville, I’ve noticed that the best episodes in this series, the comedy takes a back seat, or is absent all together. Think about Star Trek Discovery Season 1, imagine that story if they threw in lame jokes, or haha moments. The story would be diminished.
In the Moclan episode Sanctuary (S2E12) with the hidden planet, I don’t remember anything funny in that episode. In the Identity Episode Part 2 (S2E9) where Gordon ends up in a Krill Fighter, and he throws a mean look growling at his Krill contemporary in a second ship flying next to him. Ok, it was funny, meant to be funny, but this battle was serious business, and I felt it was out of place and diminished the character and the seriousness of the event, people were dying. Do we want to take him and this battle seriously or not?
As I recall. McFarlane had to pitch the show as a comedy so that Fox would approve it. He probably just inserts the jokes in hopes Fox execs will finally concede that they are not necessary. Giving him the go ahead to make it a serious Sci-Fi.