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Make sure you have TRIM enabled using TRIM Enabler or another tool. Then boot to single user mode and enter the command "fsck -fy" (without the quotes). That will TRIM all unused blocks on the SSD and should restore performance to like new. Type reboot when complete.
Weasel, I cannot thank you enough. This has restored my ssd to full speed in terms of boot times and no more beach balls. Took all of 5 minutes.
To answer previous questions I had Trim enabled and the drive is 65% full. I searched for 3 days to find a solution and was about to wipe my drive and start again so this was an amazing help. Just need those people at Samsung to write a magician for Mac and enable a firmware update without an optical drive (surely a USB drive could be used). Thanks again
Hi guys, been a lurker for a long time here (Going on 5 years) sorry in advance if this is very long, but this seemed like the perfect thread to ask what to do.
In 2013 at Christmas I bought a SSD for my 13" MacBook Pro Early 2011 model, I upgraded from a HD to a Intel 530 Series 120GB I had a couple of bumps installing OS X on it but they were resolved and I got things working, I'm a student and I study networking so I do a lot of virtual work and this was a huge help to me, going on July/August my SSD took a big hit to performance and I had no idea why, it literally happened just one day after starting my mac up one day, I tracked the problem down to TRIM not knowing what it was at the time really screwed me over, I had a small idea on what it did but didn't realise it was completely necessary until my drive got down to about ~50MB-R/W. I started troubleshooting took my SSD out and put it in a USB 3.0 dock, slow speeds still so I made a Carbon Copy Cloner backup image of my SSD and then put it into my PC to use the Intel SSD program to secure erase it (Completely erase the cells, not just fill with 0s in Disk Utility) after I had done this I still suffered a performance hit so I resulted to it being the cable, I went to the apple store spoke to a guy he said I need to make an appointment, I knew this prior so I told him I want to speak to a genius about trim technology on 3rd party drives (Just something to boggle his mind, it worked) when talking to the genius I went upfront honest with him and told him I was running a optibay setup we shot the problem down to my Logic Board so I made an appointment for a week later. After getting my laptop back the techncian rang me saying that its my SSD because doing a logic board and SATA cable replacement didn't fix anything, so I took my SSD back since it had a 3 year warranty and got a Samsung 840 Series Pro instead.
I must say, I have had the absolutely worst luck with this SSD but that doesn't bother me, as long as I can get it to work I don't mind. First I did a quick format on my PC to make it usable, I then restored the backup CCC Image onto it, I then thought that it should work fine in my mac and theoretically it should however this didn't happen, my mac said it couldn't find the drive (Popped up with the folder with the ?), now its been roughly 4 days I've been troubleshooting, I have now installed OS X on a USB and can confirm my SATA cable works fine as I've put a mechanical HDD in it and it spun up fine and got recognized, I have put my SSD in my optibay and it was recognized but not booted, I can boot from my SSD in a USB 3 dock but I do not feel safe doing this due to no TRIM support. After doing all of this I stumbled across this thread and saw all the success stories and also the problems with mac not recognizing it due to the firmware, so I checked that my firmware was up to date by putting it into my PC and I can confirm it is up to date, so I'm very very confused what the problem could be now as it cant be the SATA cable, SSD, OS, Firmware, Controller, or the newly replaced Logic Board.
Help me guys, please.
In 2013 at Christmas I bought a SSD for my 13" MacBook Pro Early 2011 model, I upgraded from a HD to a Intel 530 Series 120GB I had a couple of bumps installing OS X on it but they were resolved and I got things working, I'm a student and I study networking so I do a lot of virtual work and this was a huge help to me, going on July/August my SSD took a big hit to performance and I had no idea why, it literally happened just one day after starting my mac up one day, I tracked the problem down to TRIM not knowing what it was at the time really screwed me over, I had a small idea on what it did but didn't realise it was completely necessary until my drive got down to about ~50MB-R/W. I started troubleshooting took my SSD out and put it in a USB 3.0 dock, slow speeds still so I made a Carbon Copy Cloner backup image of my SSD and then put it into my PC to use the Intel SSD program to secure erase it (Completely erase the cells, not just fill with 0s in Disk Utility) after I had done this I still suffered a performance hit so I resulted to it being the cable, I went to the apple store spoke to a guy he said I need to make an appointment, I knew this prior so I told him I want to speak to a genius about trim technology on 3rd party drives (Just something to boggle his mind, it worked) when talking to the genius I went upfront honest with him and told him I was running a optibay setup we shot the problem down to my Logic Board so I made an appointment for a week later. After getting my laptop back the techncian rang me saying that its my SSD because doing a logic board and SATA cable replacement didn't fix anything, so I took my SSD back since it had a 3 year warranty and got a Samsung 840 Series Pro instead.
I must say, I have had the absolutely worst luck with this SSD but that doesn't bother me, as long as I can get it to work I don't mind. First I did a quick format on my PC to make it usable, I then restored the backup CCC Image onto it, I then thought that it should work fine in my mac and theoretically it should however this didn't happen, my mac said it couldn't find the drive (Popped up with the folder with the ?), now its been roughly 4 days I've been troubleshooting, I have now installed OS X on a USB and can confirm my SATA cable works fine as I've put a mechanical HDD in it and it spun up fine and got recognized, I have put my SSD in my optibay and it was recognized but not booted, I can boot from my SSD in a USB 3 dock but I do not feel safe doing this due to no TRIM support. After doing all of this I stumbled across this thread and saw all the success stories and also the problems with mac not recognizing it due to the firmware, so I checked that my firmware was up to date by putting it into my PC and I can confirm it is up to date, so I'm very very confused what the problem could be now as it cant be the SATA cable, SSD, OS, Firmware, Controller, or the newly replaced Logic Board.
Help me guys, please.
That won't work ... you need to partition/format it for OS X on your Macbook Pro, then restore the CCC image. Your PC can't read/write/format Mac OS X format (without extra drivers).
I know you can enable TRIM on a Fusion drive, but do not know if the fsck command will TRIM unused blocks on a Fusion or not. Never have been able to test it. It would not hurt anything to run the command and find out. You should see a message at the end that says "Trimming unused blocks." Let us know if it works please, because I am curious now.
Can no one think of any reason to why my Mac wont even detect my 840 Series? Early 2011 MacBook Pro, 8GB RAM, Optibay setup, OS X 10.9, 840 Series 128GB Pro
Its in the main bay now, I refuse to run my SSD in the optibay seeing as thats only SATA 3GB/s, however in the troublshooting process I put it in there and it detected the drive but did not boot (Spinning Apple Logo nonstop) If I put it in the main bay my mac does not detect it, but does detect a mechanical HDD
When I turn chameleon trim on It triggers the restart pop up window. When I restart I get the no smoking symbol. The first time I was able to restore via time machine. So I tried it again and again get no smoking and now haven't been able to get a good restore, getting the no smoke now on 2 restore attempts.
Gonna call AppleCare later today.
I think it has something to do with the public beta Yosemite I am running.
WJ
Add: also could be that my chameleon version is not suppose to work with Yosemite. I didn't download the chameleon beta for Yosemite !
Gonna call AppleCare later today.
I think it has something to do with the public beta Yosemite I am running.
WJ
Add: also could be that my chameleon version is not suppose to work with Yosemite. I didn't download the chameleon beta for Yosemite !
I know you can enable TRIM on a Fusion drive, but do not know if the fsck command will TRIM unused blocks on a Fusion or not. Never have been able to test it. It would not hurt anything to run the command and find out. You should see a message at the end that says "Trimming unused blocks." Let us know if it works please, because I am curious now.
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Have you tried it with another Mac?
Edit: And is the same thing happening with both the old and the new drive?
Haven't tried it with any other macs as I don't have any other on hand, might be able to do testing on another mac in a couple weeks if my problem still isn't solved. So far I've restored my CCC image onto my SSD and put it in my main SATA bay, after that I held command + option + R to go into internet recovery so I can launch Disk Utility and see if the Drive is recognized, with the SSD it isn't but with the Mechanical it is. Please not this is all in the same SATA bay so it cant be a cabling issue, and the SSD is recognized in the Optibay and External enclosure so it isn't a SSD issue.
Oh yeah.. that's your issue right there. Yosemite has kext signing that checks to make sure the default kext files have not been messed with. I did read the Cindori TRIM enabler app had a work around for that.
Hi everyone, I have a mid-2010 MBP and I upgraded the RAM from 4GB to PNY 8GB about a year ago but the thing is still sluggish (currently on OSX Mavericks) so I've been looking into installing an SSD in it.
Well I finally have enough saved up and I am going for the Samsung Pro 512GB SSD after reading reviews and whatnot.
My question is, I usually backup all my important files on an external portable hard-drive, so do I need to do any other backup because replacing the old HDD with the new SSD?
I know I have the option of installing the new SSD in the DVD-rom bay but I don't want to spend more (or rather lack the funds) to buy the conversion kit so I figured I'd just yank out the old HDD and replace it with this new SSD.
Secondly, after installing the SSD, how would I load OSX back onto it because I'm assuming it is completely formatted. After the install, I'd just copy all my files back onto the SSD using the external hard-drive.
Thank you! and if there is a better SSD out there, please let me know! I have about $380 to spend on a new SSD at the moment.
Well I finally have enough saved up and I am going for the Samsung Pro 512GB SSD after reading reviews and whatnot.
My question is, I usually backup all my important files on an external portable hard-drive, so do I need to do any other backup because replacing the old HDD with the new SSD?
I know I have the option of installing the new SSD in the DVD-rom bay but I don't want to spend more (or rather lack the funds) to buy the conversion kit so I figured I'd just yank out the old HDD and replace it with this new SSD.
Secondly, after installing the SSD, how would I load OSX back onto it because I'm assuming it is completely formatted. After the install, I'd just copy all my files back onto the SSD using the external hard-drive.
Thank you! and if there is a better SSD out there, please let me know! I have about $380 to spend on a new SSD at the moment.
I don't have either of the 840 iterations but I do have the 850. Here are some benchmarks on a relatively virgin machine:
Sorry for the huge size, I don't know how to make it smaller.
Sorry for the huge size, I don't know how to make it smaller.
The main issue is while it will still be a large improvement you MBP cannot reap the full benefits as it only has a 3GBps SATA connections. 2011's started with 6Gbps SATA's. I believe 3Gbps will top out about 280-290MBps. You will not see the 400-500MBps read and writes like in the pic above. You mentioned low on funds... well go with the 840 evo instead of the pro. You won't see the gains of the pro over the evo with the current machine.
Thanks for the input. I looked into what you said and I could also go with the Samsung Evo 840 - 250GB SSD. I've been using the original 250GB HDD with no problems for the past 4 years so I don't really need 500GB because I have an external 1TB HDD.
I can pick up the Samsung Evo 840 250GB (Model: MZ-7TE250BW) for $155 including tax. Is this a good deal?
And how is the reliability of these Evo series? Should I buy the 3 year replacement plan for an extra $19.99 with the purchase?
Probably not - Amazon has it for $129, so even if you have crazy-high tax, it probably wouldn't be that much. I've seen it as low as $119 on Amazon, too.
So far, mine has been pretty reliable. We've bought some more at work for some 2009/2010 MacBook Pros to keep them running a few more years. I would skip the replacement plan - it has a 3-year warranty from Samsung.
Play some soothing music for it, and take it out to dinner. That'll help.
(Seriously, do you assume we automagically know what is wrong?)
I'm going to assume you didn't read my post above stating what I have done to troubleshoot it and still have had no success, so no I don't expect you to "automagically" know what is wrong, but I'd appreciate a little help, it seems this is a thread dedicated to the Samsung 840 Series but everyone seems to be avoiding my question :\
Like you, I don't memorise who write in this thread - Seeing now that I have already commented on your posts. Quoting your own entires will help a lot in these cases.
In any event, my guess would be some controller incompatibility, as you mention that you only have this specific issue in the main bay, and not with the HDD in the same place. If it is, then there's nothing you can do to fix it, apart from getting another drive.
Welcome to Ontario, 13% sales tax
The cheapest I've found this at a Canadian retailer is $139.99, add tax to that and its $155.
I think I'm going to jump the gun and get it...my only concern again is the warranty.
You said Samsung has a 3 year warranty on it, is that a replacement warranty or repair? The retailer that is offering a 3-year replacement for $19.99 basically gives you your full money back on a gift-card, they don't even fix it...so that could work in my favor if something goes wrong within the next 3 years and I can just use the $155 towards a newer model.