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Second episode was a bit of a letdown. The "Geoff" electric car segment was one of the more poorer "How Hard Can It Be?" segments and The News wasn't.

Did like Michael Sheen and while I wouldn't compare a ZR-1 with an R8 (V8 or V10 edition), that segment was decent enough.

Why wouldn't you compare the R8 vs the ZR1? They are both high end sports cars.

I just love how Clarkson feels obligated to go after the Corvette. " The car is made out of plastic" No sir it made out of fiber glass and carbon fiber. Sure there are plastic pieces on the car somewhere, but that is not the sole reason why it is so light. And how he could not keep it under control where the Stig could.
 
Also, can't find confirmation of it, but I'm hearing that The History Channel has picked up Top Gear: US for the 2010 broadcast season.

I would really much rather see a channel just air the UK version of Top Gear uncut from it's original version on the same day it airs in the UK. Us Yanks are going to ruin it.
 
Why wouldn't you compare the R8 vs the ZR1? They are both high end sports cars.

I'd posit the R8 as being a bit more of a GT, but toh-may-toes and toh-mah-toes. :)

I would really much rather see a channel just air the UK version of Top Gear uncut from it's original version on the same day it airs in the UK. Us Yanks are going to ruin it.

Well music licensing restrictions prevent a straight re-broadcast of the BBC2 version. All of the US iTunes Store releases other than Series 10 have had all the content kept intact (so identical running times to the BBC2 broadcast) with some music changed as required for licensing.
 
Second episode was a bit of a letdown. The "Geoff" electric car segment was one of the more poorer "How Hard Can It Be?" segments and The News wasn't.

Did like Michael Sheen and while I wouldn't compare a ZR-1 with an R8 (V8 or V10 edition), that segment was decent enough.

I agree... The Geoff segment was too drawn out, although I love The Stig's cousin and when the chimney broke and they were filled with smoke... Next epi will be better :p
 
I must say I am getting a bit sick of the whole Electric/Hybrid-cars-are-a-great-big-joke-theme.

I just wish there was just a tiny bit of balance.

and in a completely unrelated piece of news
it turns out that "Top Gear Live" is being sponsored by Shell.
 
Hmm... most boring episode ever, I'm afraid.

A caravan airship (a Lambo involved..?), and a tribute to the worst car-maker in the world: Lancia.

Even the Stig DNF in one of those crappy Lancia's.

Nothing to report here. :rolleyes:
 
I thought it was a great episode.
On a side note, does anyone know where those hangars were that James flew the blimp out of? They must be some of the biggest buildings in Britain...
 
Liked seeing them old Lancias, dont agree that they are pretty but they're quiet interesting, look like them radio controlled cars.
 
Just saw the previous episode with "Geoff". I agree it was a little too drawn out, but still amusing. I like challenges with older cars so I want to see the Lancia thing in the new episode. I'm not a big fan of all the silly "projects" (the Reliant Robin Space Shuttle, for example was just boring and contrived).

I'm still running a G4 so I can't watch in HD. :(

Oh, and I just finished watching the 1st and 2nd season for the first time...MUCH more like the "old" Top Gear. I bet Clarkson hated the segments where they talked abut used car deals.

I would really much rather see a channel just air the UK version of Top Gear uncut from it's original version on the same day it airs in the UK. Us Yanks are going to ruin it.

I think it could be done well, but probably won't be. It will be too American.....and I'm speaking as an American who desperately wants to like American cars (and often fails, but there are a few gems in there). If they give glowing reviews to any big SUVs or call flabby FWD midsize sedans "sporty" I will tune out. I don't care to find out how many cupholders the new Malibu has or what the 0-60 of a Ford F-350 diesel is...

Clarkson likes to trot out the same lame jokes about Americans over, and over, and over - but he does the same with everyone else so I'm not going to complain. I laugh at the German and French jokes every time, even though they are incredibly trite. ;)
 
Last nights Ep was manic lmao, loved the replica strato's going about the track, didnt think much of chris evans screeching everytime he had the chance,
 
Originally posted on a forum. It's by the guy who build the kit-car they slagged off so much. Quite an interested insight...

As you know I don't often make comments on the forum but I think that the facts as I see them need to be aired. I was there at the top gear studio all day and saw everything outside the studio first hand. Because of my personal view of the programme I refused the offer of participating inside the studio.I was informed after the recording of what was said and shown by my friends from Noble Motorsport who were also there on the day.

We know that Nico volunteered his car at very short notice to the people at Top Gear who has asked for an Alitalia. Nico made it abundantly clear in his many emails to them that the car had been standing and had been rallied over the last few years and was a little 'distressed'. They arranged transportation for the car to be collected from Edinburgh and delivered to the studios where it was filmed with sticking brakes and showing the Stig getting out of the car after it had broken down. But they omitted to report that they had blown the engine. The Stig then leant on the side window and it crashed down, then the wiper blade dropped off. The Stig walked away. Then they transported the car back to Nico in Edinburgh declaring only trouble with the brakes and still not admitting to an engine problem and a broken door where they had pushed it so far back it had broken the check strap and cracked the fibre glass edge!

This is the point where I came in. I was asked by Nico if I could collect the car from him and put a new engine in which the BBC would pay for (after liaising with the BBC they agreed to pay for a new engine and my transportation from Edinburgh to Dunsfold via my workshop). Due to the short timeframe in which I had to work on the car I had to drop everything to collect the car from Edinburgh. I collected and fitted the engine and gearbox kindly donated by Ken from his Rothmans car. In addition Nico also wanted ugrades to the gearbox by fitting a 2 litre diff and an Alfa LSD - I duly obliged. Nico then arranged with Talon to put extra spotlights on the front and fill the empty lamp pod with working spotlights and all associated wiring and respray of stonechips. A new set of wheels was supplied by them with slick racing tyres in an effort to give the car a quick time. On investigating the problem with the brakes - I identified this as a sticky slider and not wanting to risk any further problems, new callipers and pads (the old pads were glazed and overheated to such an extent that they were breaking up) were put on the front and a new master cylinder fitted. I had problems bleeding the brakes and could't understand why I wasn't getting a pedal.Again, time was running out and I had to take the car to Talon for them to fit the front end and wire in the new spotlights. While I was there we all three tried to sort out the prblems with the brake - to no avail. The next day after a sleepless night I took out the pedal assembly and discovered that it was bent out of line and not giving any stroke on the pedal. After re-jigging everything the pedal was restored and we had good working brakes. A late night that night!!

Early start next morning to load the car and all tools for a shake down test at Bruntingthorpe. After a couple of slow bedding-in laps, checking temps and levels, etc (this was the first time that the car had run). The speed was gradually built up and everything seemed OK. My biggest concern was that Nico was unable to keep the car on the track for very long resulting in some spectacular spins across the grass and once into the tyres, narrowly avoiding damage. Owing to Nico's time constraints no adjustments were made to the suspension in any way - setting of shocks, tyre pressures, tracking etc. My concerns had already been raised regarding the fitting of the secondhand shocks from his green car. Later I put this issue in writing but time was spent on getting the car to look spectacular - which it did!

Back at the workshop more work was carried out as instructed to further enhance the appearance of the car by painting in the stonechips and polishing etc. I must admit the car did look brand new.

On Wednesday, the day of filming, I had to be at the studios by 8am which meant leaving home at 4.30am. After off loading the car on its slick tyres I went through the start procedue with them and handed over the keys. I then went to park up my truck and trailer away from the studio but with a good vantage point of the test track. At 9am the editor came to ask me if I wouldn't mind fitting the 2nd set of wet weather tyres as it was pouring with rain and he said that they wouldn't get far on the slicks - I duly obliged. Then this week's Stig driver came round(Andy something, I think) and got in the car, started the engine revving it's nuts off making it bounce off the rev limiter. To which he remarked "I thought I was pressing the brake" - I explained to him that the brake is the next one along and the clutch the next one after that. Off he shot.

The car flashed down the track and to me it sounded as though it was firing on 5 cylinders but it was going so fast and it was raining so hard it was difficult to tell.

For the next hour and a half I watched through binoculars as they filmed the supposed one power lap. In fact he drives two or three laps and then the camera team move to the next corner and he does two or three more laps and so on. In all he must have done 30+ laps. Then he did the supposed spinning out of control on the power lap. I must admit though, he is a very good driver in the way that he provoked and recovered the spins - or maybe they were just his practice ones. From this you can see how contrived it all was.
My view is that from the outset this was the direction that the programme was going to take. Even if the car had performed spectacularly they would have still slated it.

Nico went in to the studio filming and immediately expressed his anger and concern over the way everything had been handled and portrayed. Including Clarksons comments - a great looking car but a **** build (or words to that effect).
My emails and telephone conversations with the BBC were met with 'media talk' and I was told hat they were going to show the footage and nothing was going to change. Legal action by Gerry and Nico to remove all footage of the car and all references to it have just been sidestepped by the BBC.

What have we come away with? Nico has come away with hurt pride. Gerry has had his most excellent product criticized and future worldwide sales jeopordised and I, although not mentioned by name, everyone knows that I built the car originally and they will associate it's failings with me. However, I have to carry out work as per my customers' instructions over and above my personal preferences.
The script for the show was written even before they had the car and the issue is with the people who design the programme and not the three stooges who front it. It just goes to show that these are no different to any other treacherous ******** in the media. Both Gerry and I are absolutely devastated about the programme and fear the negative knock on effect on our businesses. I am personally well known throughout the industry - as is Gerry.

I have a meeting with one of my prized customers on Wednesday and I have 14 of his cars in my workshops. I am dreading what his thoughts will be about me and my capabilities after he sees the programme as he knows that I built the car.

I believe that in future if a car is offered to any influential media for road testing etc it is only fair that it should first be vetted and approved by the manufacturer before it 'goes out'.

If this does have a negative effect I am sure that there will be 3 suicides in the motor industry very soon.

In my view it is no good whinging about the media if you are going to sit and watch this type of programme every week or indeed go out and buy their books etc - you are just encouraging them. Take my advice and turn the [Censored] s off and go and read someone else's quality publication instead.
Chris
 
I think it could be done well, but probably won't be. It will be too American.....and I'm speaking as an American who desperately wants to like American cars (and often fails, but there are a few gems in there). If they give glowing reviews to any big SUVs or call flabby FWD midsize sedans "sporty" I will tune out. I don't care to find out how many cupholders the new Malibu has or what the 0-60 of a Ford F-350 diesel is...

Yeah, it's going to focus too much on American cars, which are all crap.

Europe is the perfect location for such a show, because that's where all of the manufacturers that make cars worth reviewing are located. I'm sure it's a lot cheaper and easier for Ferrari, Lamborghini, BMW, Audi, etc, to transport their latest creations up to the UK than it would to get them to the US. Are they going to pick up the cost of shipping their cars over to the states to be reviewed by a few unknown hosts on a TV show that only a few are going to watch when they can transport them a few hundred miles by road to what is perhaps the most watched show in the world (if you count both legal viewings and illegal downloads in other countries)?

American Top Gear will be about American cars, and while that might make sense, America just doesn't have the automotive industry Europe has. And the non-American cars they review will be Hondas and Toyotas and the like, cars which are easily obtained here and will be quite a snoozer around a track.
 
Europe is the perfect location for such a show, because that's where all of the manufacturers that make cars worth reviewing are located. I'm sure it's a lot cheaper and easier for Ferrari, Lamborghini, BMW, Audi, etc, to transport their latest creations up to the UK than it would to get them to the US.

I think, mostly, the cars are in the UK anyway for press duty. The Lambo on last nights show looked identical to the one Evo magazine had for their car-of-the year issue last month for example...
 
Just watched the latest, and I have to say, I love the Fulvia and the Delta HF Integrale, awesome cars. I remember seeing an HF Integrale on ebay once and though I'd be willing to do almost anything to own that car. Although, where was the Lancia Aurelia B20 GT? An older car (1950s) and not really all that fast compared to later cars, but beautiful and I think one of the great Lancias still.

They were obviously hamming it up with the Stratos replica, but I had an opposite reaction to Clarkson - I loved it. Awesome car.

Originally posted on a forum. It's by the guy who build the kit-car they slagged off so much. Quite an interested insight...

Not particularly surprising though, is it? Top Gear is generally less about objectivity (which would be boring) than airing Jeremy Clarkson's views on motoring in a spectacular and theatrical fashion. Clarkson isn't really the kind of "car enthusiast" who would actually work on cars or build one from a kit. He's more of an automotive media pundit.

It's interesting to note that they didn't do a direct comparison with a real Stratos - probably because a) a real Stratos woudn't be any better and b) nobody would be foolish enough to lend Clarkson a 100,000 pound car just so he could beat on it like that....

The one thing that annoys me consistently about Top Gear is that their deep pockets allow them to buy and destroy cars they don't like - cars I am too poor to ever hope to own. :eek:

Are they going to pick up the cost of shipping their cars over to the states to be reviewed by a few unknown hosts on a TV show that only a few are going to watch when they can transport them a few hundred miles by road to what is perhaps the most watched show in the world (if you count both legal viewings and illegal downloads in other countries)?

True - although to be fair, guess which country is BY FAR the biggest consumer of luxury cars? Yep, that would be the United States. Ferrari sells more cars here than anywhere else. So I suspect that they would be accommodating if the show became popular here.

American Top Gear will be about American cars, and while that might make sense, America just doesn't have the automotive industry Europe has. And the non-American cars they review will be Hondas and Toyotas and the like, cars which are easily obtained here and will be quite a snoozer around a track.

IF Top Gear USA ever happens and is successful, it will be because it focuses on interesting cars regardless of their origin, like the UK Top Gear does... If, on the other hand, it focuses only on what middle class people can buy here, or only on American cars...well, let's just say I'm not going to tune in to watch the latest Camry - Accord - Taurus - Malibu shootout.
 
IF Top Gear USA ever happens and is successful, it will be because it focuses on interesting cars regardless of their origin, like the UK Top Gear does... If, on the other hand, it focuses only on what middle class people can buy here, or only on American cars...well, let's just say I'm not going to tune in to watch the latest Camry - Accord - Taurus - Malibu shootout.

I'd be fine with a Camry-Accord-Taurus-Malibu shootout as long as the next episode has a Veyron-Zonda-Reventon shootout :D
 
Just watched the latest, and I have to say, I love the Fulvia and the Delta HF Integrale, awesome cars. I remember seeing an HF Integrale on ebay once and though I'd be willing to do almost anything to own that car. Although, where was the Lancia Aurelia B20 GT? An older car (1950s) and not really all that fast compared to later cars, but beautiful and I think one of the great Lancias still.

They were obviously hamming it up with the Stratos replica, but I had an opposite reaction to Clarkson - I loved it. Awesome car.

on the other side i found the part in the red (original ?) stratos hugely funny with all the "stop touching me" jokes

though i was sad not seeing the S4 featured... on the other side i prefer seeing the three guys alive
 
If I got a Stratos it would be blue. ;)

I'd still vote for Ford in their little poll though.

And , now that I think about it, why didn't they do at least one serious lap in the replica Stratos?
 
Because it was a kit car made out to look like one. It really really wasn't a Stratos. Different engine, different suspension etc etc etc. It would not have been an appropriate entry onto the power laps board.
 
Anyone seen tonight's episode?

Nice one, this time! Had lots of laughs. :)

Especially love Hammond's scientific way of trying to speed up traffic on airports. :D
Always good to hear the names of BTCC drivers. :cool:
 
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