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As a side note does anyone else wonder why cars have such huge tyres today? Does a basic Ford Focus really need 215 section tyres all round? Consider that the S2 Elise was originally specified with 175 section front tyres (yes it's lighter but also much higher performing).

I think it's almost exclusively a style thing for most cars. Big wheels look nicer on the clay styling bucks and concept cars. Most cars in the US come with standard 16 or 17 inch tires anymore, even smaller (for us) cars like the Civic or Focus.

Aside from ride quality, one bad side effect that large wheels/tires have on performance is mud or snow traction. I've lived my entire life in snowy places, and the narrower tires found on cars from the 80s/90s do a much better job of cutting through snow and gripping whereas the fatter rubber you see today is more likely to spin uselessly.

I personally think that the style obsession with larger alloys and wider tyres has killed ride and handling in a lot of cars. I'm possibly in the market for a E46 M3 (as my Elise is going to be written off) and I'd prefer to buy one with the smaller, non-optional wheels as it'll ride and handle better...

:eek: Glad you're OK. That car is definitely a mess. You and I are on the same car wavelength - I hope to own an Elise or M3 at some point, with the major difference being I'm years away from affording either. ;) How did you like your Lotus?

P.S. Didn't you write off a Jag a few years ago? So far I've only totaled one car myself, but I've plenty of time to increase that tally...

Equally there are times when I'd miss the noise, a country lane, B road thrash for one, where the sound of the engine is more than just an aural accompaniment, and is of far more use than a rev-counter (an entirely pointless and superfluous instrument in modern motoring if ever there was one).

When lucky enough to be driving next to a hill, tall bank or in a heavily forested area (and in warm weather), I like to open all the windows and drop a gear sometimes to amplify the engine noise. My Subie is pretty buzzy though, you really need 6 or more cylinders in most cases to get a nice note.

I've done a few 2500-mile drives in my Forester, and countless 500-800 one-day trips. After a few hours the hum of that big 4-cylinder does get a bit incessant (the Forester is not a quiet car when cruising at 75mph on a highway crossing the Great Plains). On my last long trip I listened to a 20-some hour audio book version of Crime and Punishment. It wasn't much better than the engine. :eek:

I don't think it'll ever disappear entirely, but two, three, four hundred years in the future I can't imagine they'll be anything other than a curiosity.

Very possible, though I'll bet internal combustion engines will cling on in certain niche market for a very long time to come. But in a couple hundred years, people will look upon the gasoline auto engine the same way we look at early Boulton & Watt steam engines today.
 
:eek: Glad you're OK. That car is definitely a mess. You and I are on the same car wavelength - I hope to own an Elise or M3 at some point, with the major difference being I'm years away from affording either. ;) How did you like your Lotus?

P.S. Didn't you write off a Jag a few years ago? So far I've only totaled one car myself, but I've plenty of time to increase that tally...

The Elise was the best car I've ever owned. Yes it was impractical. Yes it leaked a little in heavy rain. Yes I needed to wear earplugs to drive long distances on the motorway. But the directness of the controls make it stand out from anything else you can buy.

And yes, I did write off an XK8 a few cars back :eek:
 
And yes, I did write off an XK8 a few cars back :eek:

Nothing to be embarrassed about... if I remember correctly that wasn't you fault either.

I've only ever had the one crash, and that was in my old VW Beetle, into a lamp post in the snow, did quite a bit of damage, the lamp post put a big V shaped dent right up to the fuel tank, but because all the panels are bolt-on's, with the exception of the front valance/spare wheel well, it was a doddle to fix, the wings were something like £15 each new (back in '96 this was) and a new bonnet not much more... just had to get a professional to replace the front valance/wheel well and had to get it resprayed, which was a little more expensive because it was a custom metallic green, unfortunately they (NRC in Nuneaton) didn't match it quite so well, wrong shade of green, and a different metallic flake too. :mad: :rolleyes: :(

You not tempted by another Lotus then? Or are you craving a little more comfort and practicality but still with an enthusiasts bent?
 
You not tempted by another Lotus then? Or are you craving a little more comfort and practicality but still with an enthusiasts bent?

Whilst I'd love another Lotus I'm trying to see it as a chance to try something different and enjoy whatever I buy for what it is. Buying another Elise would be like dating a girl who looked just like an ex: sort of the same but you'd always notice the differences :p
 
Whilst I'd love another Lotus I'm trying to see it as a chance to try something different and enjoy whatever I buy for what it is. Buying another Elise would be like dating a girl who looked just like an ex: sort of the same but you'd always notice the differences :p

Point taken. :p

Anything else other than the M3 on your shopping list? Didn't you once say you liked the Maserati 3200 GT's?
 
Point taken. :p

Anything else other than the M3 on your shopping list? Didn't you once say you liked the Maserati 3200 GT's?

I'm not convinced I'd like the running costs of a 3200 GT. Although they are very pretty. I might consider a 996 911. My basic aim is to use the insurance payout for the Elise to buy a car and a years insurance and have something fun out of it.
 
The Elise was the best car I've ever owned. Yes it was impractical. Yes it leaked a little in heavy rain. Yes I needed to wear earplugs to drive long distances on the motorway. But the directness of the controls make it stand out from anything else you can buy.

Damn you, as if I didn't want the car bad enough before... :D :eek:

Whilst I'd love another Lotus I'm trying to see it as a chance to try something different and enjoy whatever I buy for what it is. Buying another Elise would be like dating a girl who looked just like an ex: sort of the same but you'd always notice the differences :p

I have the same rule - never buy the same car twice. Life is too short, and there are too many interesting cars out there to keep getting the same one.

Did you ever consider a DB7? Or is that too similar to your old XK8 (and perhaps too pricey)?
 
4 car "pile up" on the A12. I was in the middle so car smashed up front and back. I'm pretty much fine, just a bit of belly-bruising from the buckle on the harnesses. The car is a mess.

Glad to hear you are ok. Presumably that fella in the white t-shirt is the Merc driver, the Peugeot driver must have had a few butterflies in his stomach when that man mountain stepped out of the vehicle!
 
^ I'd only be surprised by TG-related marital infidelity if it involved James May in some way rather than Clarkson.

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The ones with the real engine (not the 6 cylinder ones) are pricey.

I'm sure. How do they compare with the 3200GT in terms of cost? The last time I checked, 6 cylinder DB7s were running over $40,000 USD, and the V12 was usually $20k more. A contemporary 911 (non-turbo) is worth little more than half what a V12 DB7 Vantage costs...
 
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I'm sure. How do they compare with the 3200GT in terms of cost? The last time I checked, 6 cylinder DB7s were running over $40,000 USD, and the V12 was usually $20k more. A contemporary 911 (non-turbo) is worth little more than half what a V12 DB7 Vantage costs...

3200GT = £10500 (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2599715.htm)
DB7 V12 Vantage = £23000 (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1850408.htm)
911 (996) C2 = £11000 (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2611251.htm)
E46 M3 = £8000 (http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2582804.htm)

All of these are at the very cheap end of their respective price ranges.
 
All of these are at the very cheap end of their respective price ranges.

At those prices it makes it all seem almost affordable. ;) The heart says Maserati but the head says 911.

E36 M3s are actually quite reasonable now, though they are possibly the most unloved version - but you can get one as a sedan here in the US which is nice. Finding one in good condition is more of a challenge though.

EDIT: Top Gear's executive producer has written an editorial on the Tesla lawsuit. While I agree with a couple of his points, I think overall he's trying to have it both ways. He basically admits that the segment in question was scripted, but also attempts to explain that their scripted segment was essentially truthful anyway, or at least that is what I take from it. Which is it?
 
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Damn you, as if I didn't want the car bad enough before... :D :eek:

Make him an offer... don't worry about the damage, that'll buff right out. heh.

I have the same rule - never buy the same car twice. Life is too short, and there are too many interesting cars out there to keep getting the same one.

I suppose... that said I'd love a soup'd up Beetle, pretty much like this actually, black (though I did see a brand new Land Rover Defender last weekend in a super dark grey almost black - think washed SWAT uniform - that looked so immense I've emailed Land Rover for the code so I can paint my current mountain bike project in it, but I digress) , fuchs', though I'd have bumpers and I'd be tempted by a ragtop... 2387 cc, twin 48 IDA's, long valve with a Berg 5 speed and a Quaife limited slip but I'd build it on a cab-IRS floorpan. It'd also cost upwards of £25k but it'd also trounce anything out of Stuttgart over the standing quarter. :D

All of these are at the very cheap end of their respective price ranges.

In the case of the DB7, that'll be because of the colour then. :p :p :p

At those prices it makes it all seem almost affordable. ;) The heart says Maserati but the head says 911.

I'm not a fan of 911's, except perhaps an '80's Targa in red or the 964 Carrera 4 with it's 959 derived tech.

I was going to suggest a Cayman, until I looked at the prices on Autotrader that is. :eek:

But in silver, the shape is somewhat reminiscent of the old 550. :cool:

E36 M3s are actually quite reasonable now, though they are possibly the most unloved version

There's a reason why... in both cases. :p

I'd rather have a E28 M5. A classic BMW and quicker & cooler than a E30 M3.

EDIT: Top Gear's executive producer has written an editorial on the Tesla lawsuit. While I agree with a couple of his points, I think overall he's trying to have it both ways. He basically admits that the segment in question was scripted, but also attempts to explain that their scripted segment was essentially truthful anyway, or at least that is what I take from it. Which is it?

Tiff didn't have a problem getting from London to the south coast and back via a few laps of Goodwood on a single charge... 150+ miles. And he wasn't exactly holding off giving it the beans. :D Does make Top Gear look a little silly on this.
 
Tiff didn't have a problem getting from London to the south coast and back via a few laps of Goodwood on a single charge... 150+ miles. And he wasn't exactly holding off giving it the beans. :D Does make Top Gear look a little silly on this.

I agree - Top Gear are just going to look foolish, since every other auto journalist out there agrees that the range is considerably higher than TG seem to imply.

Make him an offer... don't worry about the damage, that'll buff right out. heh.

Truer than you think...robbiduncan's wrecked Elise is probably the only Elise I could afford these days. :eek:

But I'm saving my pennies...

I suppose... that said I'd love a soup'd up Beetle, pretty much like this actually

I'm not much of a Beetle lover but that one is pretty impressive, and those alloys are just right. Nice choice of soundtrack too. :D

I'm not a fan of 911's, except perhaps an '80's Targa in red or the 964 Carrera 4 with it's 959 derived tech.

I like the 930, especially in black with the two-piece Fuchs alloys. It's kind of vulgar but I don't care.

I was going to suggest a Cayman, until I looked at the prices on Autotrader that is. :eek:

I would take a used 911 C2 over a Cayman any day, especially since the Cayman ain't that cheap.

There's a reason why... in both cases. :p

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My personal choice - an E24 M 635CSi :cool:
 
Speaking of writing off sports cars....
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As a nearly off-topic aside, I broke down while on a road trip last weekend (the service shop didn't tighten my wheels properly and I sheared 6 of 10 studs on the two rear wheels of my Forester at 75mph!), and I ended up renting a 2011 Mini Cooper for a 500+ mile road trip in rural Alaska.

I know I'm many years behind on reviewing a (BMW) Mini, but I'd never driven it before and I thought it was an excellent car in many ways. Pretty well-thought out, funky interior. Impressive handling and a good motor, even with the automatic. I used to think it was too cute by half but I'm an admirer of the mini now (excluding that horrible AWD Countryman monstrosity they're selling now). At one point we hit a snowstorm and I got a little nervous, with the snow acumulation on the road actually reaching the door sill, but it made it. I found myself cruising along a remote two-lane road with a Celica GTS and the 120hp Mini kept up with the 180hp Toyota just fine, especially on twisty mountain roads. I would love to try a Cooper S turbo with a manual transmission. Thumbs up. :)

Speaking of writing off sports cars....

Kudos to the driver for discovering the only way to make a Gumpert Apollo uglier than it already is. :eek:
 
I saw the trailer with the boys driving their mums around Monaco in hot hatches. It was only after seeing it for the third time I realised Jeremy's 'mum' was actually Bernie Ecclestone.
 
I think it was great start to the season.

I didn't really like Hammond's film. I thought it was just okay but it picked up from there.

Jezza's E-Type film was awesome. It's one of my favorite cars.

And Amy Williams is hot! :D
 
Apparently there is one episode with a segment near my town, Loughborough. They were filming a few weeks ago in Quorn, apparently. At the train station.
 
An entertaining start to the new series, I hope they are all as good.

That sequential gearbox in the rally Mini was a lot better than the one I had in my old Mini 1000. :D
 
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