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For me, if I were buying new in this class it would have to be the new Fiat 500 Arbarth of even the 100hp if finances where stretched. I know its just a fancy Panda but is just so right.

Nah i wouldn't go near a Fiat. Too unreliable!

If i had €50k lying around i'd have a 123D :)
 
In the last JD Power survey the Fiat Panda and the BMW 1 Series came joint 54th / 100. I would suggest they probably have about the same reliability - average. BMW is probably a better drive but look at the price!!
 
In the last JD Power survey the Fiat Panda and the BMW 1 Series came joint 54th / 100. I would suggest they probably have about the same reliability - average. BMW is probably a better drive but look at the price!!

I am looking at the price... that's why i don't have one :D

Anyway i wouldn't compare the 1 series standard to the 1 series coupe. (Hopefully the coupe is more reliable anyway).
 
Where is the fun if you wear a helmet! The deflector does all the work for you :D

The deflector doesn't... at all, and you do need a helmet to protect you from the debris you'll otherwise accumulate on your face. ;)

But there are perhaps less than a handful of cars that are truly as visceral as the Spider was. One can only imagine just exactly how good a 2008 version with a Renault Sport 225 engine would be.
 
The new BMW 1series seems to be the flavour of choice these days around my parts. First it was the mini that was the 'in' thing, then slipped in the Audi A3 which seems to have flooded the roads and now the little driver's car is in play. The coupe may be considerably more than the standard hatch but boy does it look good!
 
One of the least good episodes...

I mean, the Alfa cr@p was bad. I know they love bad Italian cars, but this was putting it to extreme lengths. Usually when they do the "cheap thrill" stuff, they have some kind of point. Now they hadn't. Nothing at all.. As for the humour... 5 out of 10: cheesing James was a bit off.. only the constant bashing of James' car was fun. Guests wee boring too.
Other than that, the Bentley was nothing new. Big expensive car with too much torque, but seemingly handles so poorly the Stig was not allowed an appearance today.
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Non!!! I totally wasn't impressed with tonight's show. It just seemed a little thin, and as previously stated humor levels were before the par. The news was of the worst I've seen and the 'what I've found on the internet' times are just starting to annoy me. Goddammit the viewer should see the clip/image! It's as if the viewer can see 99% percent of the show and you lucky guys and gals who actually go the to the studio can experience the full whack! pah and humbug.

Im mad for top gear (27GB of it on my HD!) however, this season so far isn't up to the hipe. Alas, here's is to next week! :D
 
Top Gear may be about to be loosing it's current winning team.

The success has gone to their heads and they are acting like Pink Floyd, The Who and Led Zepelin.

You guessed it money arguments have reared their ugly head. James May and Hammond want the same money as Clarkson. OH well, hope hey can sort it out.

Top Gear started in 1977 and is bigger than the presenters. It will go on.

This surely must create tensions between the three 'stars' which may account for the less than glowing reviews recent episodes are getting.

Get it together boys stop acting like pathetic hollywood stars. The public will kill the show off as quickly as they made it.
 
Top Gear may be about to be loosing it's current winning team.

The success has gone to their heads and they are acting like Pink Floyd, The Who and Led Zepelin.

You guessed it money arguments have reared their ugly head. James May and Hammond want the same money as Clarkson. OH well, hope hey can sort it out.

Top Gear started in 1977 and is bigger than the presenters. It will go on.

Depends on which story you read about the money.

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Top Gear may be about to be loosing it's current winning team.

The success has gone to their heads and they are acting like Pink Floyd, The Who and Led Zepelin.

You guessed it money arguments have reared their ugly head. James May and Hammond want the same money as Clarkson. OH well, hope hey can sort it out.

Top Gear started in 1977 and is bigger than the presenters. It will go on.

This surely must create tensions between the three 'stars' which may account for the less than glowing reviews recent episodes are getting.

Get it together boys stop acting like pathetic hollywood stars. The public will kill the show off as quickly as they made it.

It wouldnt be the same without Clarkson, Hammond and May though!
 
Could be better. Clarkson and Hammond get on my nerves at times.

The main reason I watch Top Gear over other car shows or websites or magazines is because of the presenters and how great they are, they add a special something and make it very entertaining.
 
One of the least good episodes...

I mean, the Alfa cr@p was bad. I know they love bad Italian cars, but this was putting it to extreme lengths. :(

I quite liked the Alfa challenge, but then I'm a big fan of rust old Italian cars. What were they thinking with the 75 & Spider! Kudos to James for choosing the GTV. Alfa's for under a grand; I would suggest the 145 (Cloverleaf if your lucky) and the 164 V6 would be the sensible choices.
 
The main reason I watch Top Gear over other car shows or websites or magazines is because of the presenters and how great they are, they add a special something and make it very entertaining.
Don't get me wrong, Top Gear is great, but imagine how much better it'd be if they had presenters who could deliver their heavily scripted lines without being quite so wooden.

I can imagine the script meetings for the cool wall, where they discuss when Hammonds going to grab the card 'ad lib' and eat it. Oooo the cheeky chappy, he's a one isn't he just. *yawn*
 
Don't get me wrong, Top Gear is great, but imagine how much better it'd be if they had presenters who could deliver their heavily scripted lines without being quite so wooden.

I can imagine the script meetings for the cool wall, where they discuss when Hammonds going to grab the card 'ad lib' and eat it. Oooo the cheeky chappy, he's a one isn't he just. *yawn*

It does get a bit old when they do stuff like that all the time, but I lauged so hard when Clarkson put a chainsaw to a motorbike Hammond (or was it May?) had put on the Cool Wall! Sooooooooo funny!

I think the presenters are great and they make Top Gear what it is, without them it will be like Fith Gear, which is basically just trying very hard but failing to be like Top Gear.
 
Don't get me wrong, Top Gear is great, but imagine how much better it'd be if they had presenters who could deliver their heavily scripted lines without being quite so wooden.

Imagine if it just went out live, unscripted, post-watershed. :)

I can imagine the script meetings for the cool wall,

The script's probably still quite funny at that point, it's the endless retakes that appear to sap the soul of any humour.

I'm beginning to see a Crap-Good-Crap pattern emerging for this series... ;)
 
Just got hold of a rumor what they will feature DMC Texas in a upcoming episode of Top Gear! Thats right, DeLoreans!
 
I think the presenters are great and they make Top Gear what it is, without them it will be like Fith Gear, which is basically just trying very hard but failing to be like Top Gear.

That's so true.

You can't agree with them all the time, sometimes they're a bit annoying, and sure.. lots is scripted and becoming quite obvious and predictable here and there...
But, these 3 characters are so un-replaceable:
James' laid back -don't care too much about speed, gimme luxury.. preferably British luxury-...
Richard's lust for the cooler younger stuff... and occasionally having a crash...
Jeremy's need-for-speed... POWER!!!! Clearly the leader, and so unbelievable good in trying to let the viewer actually feel what he thinks of a car...
And of course.... 3 gr8 and totally different characters when it comes to humour. Brilliant.

It's just that the last episode wasn't up to their usual standards.

Can't wait for coming Sunday!
 
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