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'The Truth Hurts': Verizon Zings AT&T in Advertising Spat
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Well explain to me then why everyone with a iPhone surfing on the same city wide AT&T network and my call drops and I can not reconnect! Plus explain to me when I receive voice mail several hours after it was left. Is AT&T data loss hindering this also?
Mark my words when (I can see this happening in my mind's eye) that one day soon someone is going to die when the/she can't make a call (in none-3G area) for help on AT&T. The layers will be all over AT&T and the tech writers will have a field day.
Thankfully, you're not Ms. Manners, and there are other reasons for wanting voice and data to work simultaneously.
If I'm on a 90-minute conference call where I'm basically just listening, it's not rude for me to expect my email to continue to be received. Nor is it rude for me to do some quick web research if an issue comes up and nobody can immediately answer. Or update my apps in the background if I want to.
Verizon does have a point in a way.
As much as I don't like Verizons campaign they have a point. There commericals with the maps are a little misleading, But:
I am testing the new streaming video application I am developing,
which WILL let you watch movies outside your local area network either
over 3g (if apple allows it) or over wi-fi.
In my home location in downriver Michigan 3g streaming is actually
very watchable, but as I move away , say in to the metro Detroit Area
3g performance drops off greatly, and the videos become more unstable.
Over wi-fi like that found at your local starbucks or Airport
performance is great , watch hi def clips of the sts 129 or a
converted 2 hour dvd without issue.
Curious , What kind of performance anyone else is seeing.
Also Streams will be released as open source, I'm hoping other
developers will add features I just don't have time too, such as on
the fly conversion from other formats to h264 or QT X https streaming.
http://sol3.typepad.com/tagalong_developer_journa/2009/11/app-not-sat...
As much as I don't like Verizons campaign they have a point. There commericals with the maps are a little misleading, But:
I am testing the new streaming video application I am developing,
which WILL let you watch movies outside your local area network either
over 3g (if apple allows it) or over wi-fi.
In my home location in downriver Michigan 3g streaming is actually
very watchable, but as I move away , say in to the metro Detroit Area
3g performance drops off greatly, and the videos become more unstable.
Over wi-fi like that found at your local starbucks or Airport
performance is great , watch hi def clips of the sts 129 or a
converted 2 hour dvd without issue.
Curious , What kind of performance anyone else is seeing.
Also Streams will be released as open source, I'm hoping other
developers will add features I just don't have time too, such as on
the fly conversion from other formats to h264 or QT X https streaming.
http://sol3.typepad.com/tagalong_developer_journa/2009/11/app-not-sat...
I am certain there are posters here who are defending AT&T because it's affiliated with Apple, while there are minority who do experience reliable service. My experience traveling to major metropolitan hubs is that the service has been atrocious.
ATT has already released their weak comeback but it's too little too late once they lost their legal battle to have the commercials removed. Verizon aint cheap but you're paying for reliable service. It's the same reason why people come back to Apple computers rather than some of the cheap PC competitors
funny how many of you use simultaneous data as a reason why the carrier and it's devices suck, but most ran and bought the original iPhone and never complained and even defended those who said 3G was a necessity. oh the irony
ATT has already released their weak comeback but it's too little too late once they lost their legal battle to have the commercials removed. Verizon aint cheap but you're paying for reliable service. It's the same reason why people come back to Apple computers rather than some of the cheap PC competitors
funny how many of you use simultaneous data as a reason why the carrier and it's devices suck, but most ran and bought the original iPhone and never complained and even defended those who said 3G was a necessity. oh the irony
funny how many of you use simultaneous data as a reason why the carrier and it's devices suck, but most ran and bought the original iPhone and never complained and even defended those who said 3G was a necessity. oh the irony
Funny, I recall many people complaining (loudly and publicly) about the limitations of the iPhone on EDGE in that pre-3G year.
And equating a weakness of Verizon today with an AT&T/iPhone weakness of yesterday seems a bit silly. It was like when people were defending Vista by comparing it to the original OS X release. "Sure, Vista may suck, but remember OS X 10.0? Wow!"
I must be one of the minority who have never had a problem with AT&T service. I am no fan of AT&T (or any carrier for that matter) but the lack of any truly compelling devices (to the non-tech blog-reading nerd) on Verizon speaks for itself.
I am certain there are posters here who are defending AT&T because it's affiliated with Apple, while there are minority who do experience reliable service. My experience traveling to major metropolitan hubs is that the service has been atrocious.
ATT has already released their weak comeback but it's too little too late once they lost their legal battle to have the commercials removed. Verizon aint cheap but you're paying for reliable service. It's the same reason why people come back to Apple computers rather than some of the cheap PC competitors
funny how many of you use simultaneous data as a reason why the carrier and it's devices suck, but most ran and bought the original iPhone and never complained and even defended those who said 3G was a necessity. oh the irony
Feature parity on the Droid compared to the iPhone is so close that I don't really care to have an iPhone anymore. The Droid is fantastic, and the call quality is great, and consistent everywhere I go.
The iPhone is a great device, no doubt. But AT&T? Yuck. No thanks. Been there, done that.
Funny, I recall many people complaining (loudly and publicly) about the limitations of the iPhone on EDGE in that pre-3G year.
And equating a weakness of Verizon today with an AT&T/iPhone weakness of yesterday seems a bit silly. It was like when people were defending Vista by comparing it to the original OS X release. "Sure, Vista may suck, but remember OS X 10.0? Wow!"
I must be one of the minority who have never had a problem with AT&T service. I am no fan of AT&T (or any carrier for that matter) but the lack of any truly compelling devices (to the non-tech blog-reading nerd) on Verizon speaks for itself.
It's only silly to you. Complaining about not conducting calls and data at the same time on an iPhone was never a problem with many while there were other devices on the same carrier that did have this functionality. You never seem to have a problem leveraging a similar argument when discussing appstores in their nascence
You are in the minority. All carriers have some coverage issues but ATT's exceed my expectations continuously. Go to major metropolitan areas and their lack of bandwidth becomes obvious.
You never seem to have a problem leveraging a similar argument when discussing appstores in their nascence
That's because I'm comparing an existing product (Apple's app store) with app stores that do not yet exist or exist in a very rudimentary form right now.
Completely rational.
You're doing essentially the opposite by comparing a current weakness of an Apple competitor (Verizon) with an Apple weakness that no longer exists (the pre-3G iPhone).
Completely irrational.
I had an iphone 3G on ATT in NYC and it was on EDGE most of the time despite what they advertise so comparing an existing or earlier iteration is completely rational in my eyes.
BTW, Verizon and ATT compete. Verizon doesnt compete with Apple unless apple became a carrier recently...
Yet interestingly Verizon targeted Apple directly with its "iDon't" ads.
Things that make you go "Hmmm..."
Apple provided iphone numbers after the first weekend of the first iphones, how many Droids have been sold, why isn't Verizon providing us numbers or they have got something to hide. I guess they also won't provide numnbers just like Palm who to this date haven't told us the number of Pres they've sold.
Yes, I'm sure Verizon had no demands of its own (namely over the software).
It looks like the "nothing to lose" carrier was the big winner in this deal.
Don't mind that dude, he's always looking to put Apple in the negative. Yeah I'm sure big evil Apple was bullying small vulnerable Verizon.
Hey Apple is following the general rule when it comes to releasing phones, you make it exclusive to one carrier than generally move it to others, which is what we are seeing them doing. Just because it hasn't happened in the states yet doesn't mean that it won't eventually go to other carriers.
Those are not official numbers. Those are guesses, because Verizon or Motorola won't release numbers. If they released the damn numbers, we would have known by now. Reading that article, you have one person saying 250,000, another saying 100,000 and another saying 200,000. Which one is it?
Which part of New Jersey do you live in? I've used the iphone around Newark, Irvington, and East Orange and get excellent coverage.
Apologies Goona.
Why they won't release any official numbers is anyones guess? (unless they are poor)
I'd be interested to see how well it has done officially considering the hype that was bought up prior to its release.
What is worse is not so much ATT sucks but that iphone users pay extra for 3G services that still suck unless your in the right areas, the truth is that ATT sucks no mater how you break it down, they are still part of that whole Mabell crap that for years and years had a monopoly and that mentality still persist in ATT even today.
A the good old days of Ma Bell what a grand old time it was, NOT!
Verizon does not have a habit of release phone sell information per weekend and they are not going to make any special case here.
Also note it is not Verizon job to do that. Apple has one advatage of getting officail sells numbers and that is apple force activation to go threw them which I think was in part so they could make it a media storm and add to the hype.
Since Verizon does not release that information and Motorola does not have it (they only have how many they sold to Verizon) it is not going to come out here just to give infomation to shut up apple fan boys who no matter what the number was would use it to scream Droid sucks. Sell sells suck when as another article pointed out 200k is really pretty good compared to the iPhone considering how many were upgrades, and sold world wide.
Please stop the bashing just because it is not released. If a company does not release that infomation on any of the other phones they sold they sure as hell are not going to do it here.
Yeah right, I guess nobody has the numbers. Keep lining up the excuses for Verizon. If they had sold many units, you would be assured they would be airing it out all over the press and in their commercials. Keep the excuses coming and you want to call others fanboys. Right now we don't know how many have been sold, it's going to be a guessing game just like with the Palm Pre.
Well, huge sales or not, what matters is that the Droid and Droid Eris (especially when the Eris gets Android 2.0) are great phones on a great network.
My contract is up in January and I'm gonna replace the enV2 with an Eris. Why? The Verizon Network. If I want an iPhone I'll just get the iPod touch and wait out my contract if the iPhone ever comes to Verizon. And if it does, you can bet the day my contract is up I'll be getting one.
But I'm not leaving the Verizon network for the iPhone. I had at&t back when it was Cingular and my reception was terrible.